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Summary

  1. Next: Members' Business: 100 years of Langside Library

Live Reporting

By Craig Hutchison and Ailsa Brown

All times stated are UK

Good night

That's all from us at BBC Scotland's Democracy Live coverage but we're back tomorrow which is of course budget day, please join us for coverage of that and our other Holyrood coverage.

Holyrood at night
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Until then have a good night.

Debate ends

Ms Hyslop concludes praising Andrew Carnegie, who famously said: "A library outranks any other one thing a community can do to benefit its people.

Andrew Carnegie
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Andrew Carnegie

"It is a never failing spring in the desert."

Government policy

Culture Secretary Fiona Hyslop wishes Langside library a happy 100th birthday ad says she is glad to see it is still going strong and bringing new sessions and services to the community.

Ms Hyslop says the ethos of libraries has always been quality of opportunity and this is as relevant today as it was 100 years ago.

Culture Secretary Fiona Hyslop
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Culture Secretary Fiona Hyslop

Libraries provide a key role in supporting government policy in a number of areas including the digital agenda and in the development of good literacy skills, says the culture Secretary.

Mary Queen of Scots

The Battle of Langside was marked with restoration of the Mary Queen of Scots monument.

On 13 May 1568, Mary Queen of Scots watched as her army was defeated in the Battle of Langside.

Mary Queen of Scots
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Mary Queen of Scots

From her viewpoint at Court Knowe in Cathcart, Glasgow, she saw her army defeated within 45 minutes.

This pre-empted her fleeing Scotland and losing her reign on the throne.

Langside library

Mr Dornan goes on to say Langside library was the first library in Glasgow to allow customer to pick their own books rather than staff requesting them from staff - this was enormously innovative and gave ownership and freedom to members of the public .

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He says libraries are a place of wonder with hidden treasure for people of all ages.

'Ali Baba's cave'

Book
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Mr Dornan says he is obsessed with libraries, as a child reading was his pleasure and he went to the library at eight years old and thought it was like Ali Baba's cave.

Battle of Langside

The library is host to the famous Maurice Greiffenhagen picture of Mary Queen of Scots at the Battle of Langside, depicting her viewing the scene of the battle from the top of the hill where the Langside monument now sits, says Mr Dornan in his motion.

SNP MSP James Dornan
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SNP MSP James Dornan

The library now has drop-in services for

Citizens Advice,
Macmillan Cancer, and provides bounce and rhyme sessions, story time sessions and a weekly coffee morning.

Mr Dornan says that changes that Langside Library has undertaken over the last decades to become a cultural and learning hub in the community represent a particularly fine example of the changes being made to the library sector across Scotland

100 Years of Langside Library

SNP MSP James Dornan is leading a debate on 100 years of Langside Library.

In his motion Mr Dornan congratulates the library on its centenary celebrations and says it was the last library in Scotland built with funds from Andrew Carnegie and the first in the city to let people take their own books from the shelves instead of requesting them from the counter.

Decision time

MSPs unanimously back the general principles of the Community Empowerment Bill.

However the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Bill: Financial Resolution from John Swinney is passed in the face of opposition, reflecting concerns raised in the debate.

Voting
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76 MSPs back the financial resolution, but 31 vote against.

That's your allotment for this debate

Allotment
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The minister concludes the debate saying the country as a whole will have a clear mission for the Scotland we want to create, via this legislation.

It will create a Scotland of participation.

That ends the debate on the Community Empowerment Bill.

'Allotments are a good thing'

The minister says the government comes to the bill with a principle that we all agree with, he hopes, that allotments are a good thing and there should be more of them - that's the principle we share and are working with.

Allotment
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Mr Biagi says there have been concerns about fair rent - at present the fair rent clause is unrefined.

Government closing

Local Government and Community Empowerment Minister Marco Biagi says there is a unity over the general principles of the bill, if not the detail.

Local Government and Community Empowerment Minister Marco Biagi
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Local Government and Community Empowerment Minister Marco Biagi

Mr Biagi says the issue of the finances in the bill, raised in concern by many MSPs, is a difference of view, as the government believes the financial information in the memorandum is the best estimate that could be provided.

Funding questions

Mr Macintosh says there are still "major questions marks over the funding of this bill".

However we certainly should not allow this to derail the bill but the issue must be faced up to.

Labour closing

Labour MSP Ken Macintosh says there is a clear good will expressed from all sides towards the aim of this bill and Labour will support the general principles at decision time.

However, he says, there is a danger that the bill will further empower those communities which are already empowered.

Labour MSP Ken Macintosh
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Labour MSP Ken Macintosh

We should use this bill to give a voice to the powerless says Mr Macintosh, we have to be careful that the bill doesn't simply give more power to the middle classes.

Disability disempowerment

Mr Fergusson says the concerns raised by

Inclusion Scotland highlighting a "missed opportunity" to give disabled and disadvantaged the chance to participate in community planning and the delivery of local services.

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He hopes the government will look carefully at that aspect during Stage 2 consideration.

The Conservative MSP says Inclusion Scotland and other organisations say that the bill actually runs the risk of further disempowering disadvantaged and marginalised groups

Conservative closing

Conservative MSP Alex Ferguson says no-one in their right mind could disagree with the overall aims of the bill but "some of the detail might be a different matter".

Mr Ferguson says the Scottish conservatives will be supporting the general principles of the bill at decision time.

Conservative MSP Alex Fergusson
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Conservative MSP Alex Fergusson

However he says it is clear that there are concerns and one of them is the definition of "community" in the bill.

Football fans right to buy

Green MSP Alison Johnstone focuses on the right to buy issue as it pertains to football fans.

Football
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The Greens believe football clubs are prone to suffering from many of the same problems tenants have historically had with absentee landlords, and that football clubs are frequently at the core of communities across Scotland.

Green MSP Alison Johnstone
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Green MSP Alison Johnstone

Ms Johnstone says that a right for fans to buy their clubs, either at any point or when their clubs get into financial difficulties, would be desirable in policy terms and also that the CER Bill represents the ideal vehicle for such legislative changes.

The parts of the bill

The bill is split into eight parts:

  • Part 1 aims to provide a statutory basis for the use of "National Outcomes".
  • Part 2 contains a number of reforms to the system of community planning.
  • Part 3 provides for a process to allow community bodies to become involved in delivery of public services.
  • Part 4 makes a range of changes to the community right to buy land.
  • Part 5 provides for a process to allow community bodies to take on assets from the public sector.
The bill includes a range of changes to the community right to buy land
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The bill includes a range of changes to the community right to buy land
  • Part 6 makes a number of reforms to the system of common good.
  • Part 7 is concerned with allotments.
  • Part 8 allows local authorities to set their own reliefs for business rates.

BACKGROUND

According to the Scottish government, the Community Empowerment Bill "reflects the policy principles of subsidiarity, community empowerment and improving outcomes and provides a framework which will empower community bodies through the ownership of land and buildings".

"It will also strengthen their voices in the decisions that matter to them and support an increase in the pace and scale of public service reform by cementing the focus on achieving outcomes and improving the process of community planning."

'Standard plot'

SNP MSP Michael Russell
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SNP MSP Michael Russell

SNP MSP Michael Russell says as we are "all born again diggers" we must pay heed to the desire of allotment owners who want a definition of a standard plot and a clear public sector duty.

Lack of detail

Labour MSP Sarah Boyack says "this is hugely important legislation" but we need to make sure communities can exercise the power we are trying to give them.

As the bill is currently drafted "it doesn't do that", Ms Boyack says.

Labour MSP Sarah Boyack
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Labour MSP Sarah Boyack

"If we don't get the detail right the bill won't do what we want it to do and we can't let that happen" says Ms Boyack.

No 'proper costings'

Scottish Conservative MSP Cameron Buchanan says he does not know if the bill empowers communities in the most appropriate way.

Mr Buchanan says it is a fundamental point that the costs of the bill must be put before the parliament for approval, but this has not happened.

Conservative MSP Cameron Buchanan
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Conservative MSP Cameron Buchanan

Members of this parliament should not be expected to accurately debate the merits of this bill without proper costings he says.

We cannot be expected to sign off a blank cheque , he says, adding it is absolutely essential we have the costs for the bill to proceed.

'Bill needs more work'

Mr Rowley concludes says we need a progressive agenda putting more power into the communities, but this bill needs a lot more work.

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Earlier he confirmed he is a keen allotment user.

'Very many concerns'

Mr Rowley draws attention to the

Finance Committee's report highlighting "very many concerns" from local authorities about the financing of the measures in the bill.

He says councils are cutting frontline services the length and breadth of Scotland and if the monies are not available then cost itself could become a barrier community empowerment.

The Labour MSP says there are "serious questions over finance and they should be raised in the parliament".

'Teeth and more strength' required

Labour MSP Alex Rowley says there is a need for greater clarity in the bill as it leaves to many unanswered questions.

Labour MSP Alex Rowley
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Labour MSP Alex Rowley

For example the participation request with no right of appeal is nearly pointless he says.

The bill needs "teeth and more strength", with much improvement needed.

Local Government and Regeneration Committee Convener

Local Government and Regeneration Committee Convener Kevin Stewart says the committee has been examining community empowerment in one form or other for the past three years

Mr Stewart says at first glance it might be difficult to see a unifying theme to the legislation as it covers so many different areas, but the theme at the heart of the bill is trust.

Local Government and Regeneration Committee Convener Kevin Stewart
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Local Government and Regeneration Committee Convener Kevin Stewart

The bill is about "providing communities across Scotland with the tools they need to take decisions for themselves and trusting them to use these tools wisely" he says.

"In short it's about putting the power in community empowerment" says Mr Stewart.

'Reducing inequalities'

Local Government and Community Empowerment Minister Marco Biagi says the central change to be brought about by the bill must be an "even greater focus on reducing inequalities".

They will be reduced, he says, by empowering communities.

We want to see those communities who have been most excluded taking those well deserved seats at the table , says the minister.

BACKGROUND

Social Justice Secretary Alex Neil announced £5.6m to help give community groups the power to tackle poverty and inequalities in their areas.

Mr Neil confirmed community-led regeneration will be given extra support through the People and Communities Fund (PCF), on a visit to the Broomhouse Health Strategy Group in Edinburgh.

Alex Neil announced £5.6m to help give community groups the power to tackle poverty
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Alex Neil announced £5.6m to help give community groups the power to tackle poverty

The People and Communities Fund will be increased from £9.4 million to £15 million as it benefits from support through the dedicated £10 million funding for Empowering Communities announced by the First Minister last November.

Mr Neil said: "This Government recognises that by giving communities the power and confidence to shape their own futures, we can tackle poverty and address inequalities more effectively."

Allotments

Mr Biagi says the legislation will mean "more allotments".

Allotments
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Allotments

The

bill could provide more protection to stop allotments being closed and new rights for communities to buy land.

The plan is to extend the already existing community right to buy scheme to cover urban areas and large rural towns.

One aim is to make it easier to bring derelict public land and buildings back into use.

Communities

Local Government and Community Empowerment Minister Marco Biagi says the Community Empowerment Bill will "make a real difference".

"We all know communities can do great things when empowered to achieve their goals."

Local Government and Community Empowerment Minister Marco Biagi
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Local Government and Community Empowerment Minister Marco Biagi

The minister says communities should always be round the table when the decisions affecting them are being taken.

Community Empowerment Bill debate

MSPs debate the

Community Empowerment (Scotland) Bill at the first stage of its parliamentary scrutiny.

The bill seeks to reform areas such as community planning, community right to buy land, involvement of communities in public service delivery and communities taking on public assets.

According to the government, the bill "reflects the policy principles of subsidiarity, community empowerment and improving outcomes and provides a framework which will empower community bodies through the ownership of land and buildings and strengthening their voices in the decisions that matter to them.

"It will also support an increase in the pace and scale of public service reform by cementing the focus on achieving outcomes and improving the process of community planning."

'Small minority'

Justice Secretary Michael Matheson says over 1000 extra police officers were deployed, with 600 in and around the ground and with 400 across the country.

Mr Matheson says that it was disappointing that the small minority of people were intent on violence and disorder.

Justice Secretary Michael Matheson
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Justice Secretary Michael Matheson

The minister says 56 people have been reported to the crown on football related offences, but that was not representative of the vast majority of Scottish football fans and those who attended the game peacefully.

BACKGROUND

Police

arrested 37 people for offences connected with the Old Firm derby in Glasgow on Sunday.

As well as minor public order offences, 12 of the arrests concerned alleged sectarian breaches of the peace.

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The game between the Glasgow football rivals was heavily policed

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10-year-old boy was hit in the face by a bottle thrown at a minibus as he travelled to the game.

The boy was in a minibus of Rangers fans sitting in traffic at Cathcart Road, near Hampden Stadium.

A group of Celtic fans surrounded the bus and hurled abuse at the occupants.

Old Firm question

SNP MSP John Mason asks what impact the recent Celtic versus Rangers match had on police resources.

SNP MSP John Mason
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SNP MSP John Mason

Ministerial response

Energy Minister Fergus Ewing says the summit was constructive.

Mr Ewing says the Scottish government has acted "decisively and swiftly" by creating the jobs task force to retain skills and help those made redundant.

Business and Energy Minister Fergus Ewing
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Business and Energy Minister Fergus Ewing

The priority is for the UK government to bring forward tax changes for the oil and gas industry, says the minister.

BACKGROUND

Politicians in Aberdeen have used an oil and gas summit to urge ministers to back a £2bn finance deal for the city.

Aberdeen City Council leader, Jenny Laing, wants a combination of government grants and borrowing powers to secure the region's economic future.

She said that for too long Scotland's oil and gas sector had been seen as a "cash cow" and with the fall in oil prices it was now time for "pay back".

Alistair Carmichael, Jenny Laing and Nicola Sturgeon attended the summit
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Alistair Carmichael, Jenny Laing and Nicola Sturgeon attended the summit

First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said she would look at the plan.

The summit - organised by Aberdeen City Council - was attended by local and national politicians as well as industry and union representatives.

Ms Sturgeon and the UK government's Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael were among the participant

Topical questions: Oil and Gas Summit

Conservative MSP Alex Johnstone gets topical questions underway by asking the Scottish government what action it will take in response to the oil and gas summit in Aberdeen on 2 February 2015.

Time for Reflection

First up though we have time for reflection brought to us this week by Ms Samina Ansar from the Muslim Women's Resource Centre, Glasgow.

Ms Samina Ansari, Employability Co-ordinator, Amina, the Muslim Women's Resource Centre, Glasgow
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Ms Samina Ansari, Employability Co-ordinator, Amina, the Muslim Women's Resource Centre, Glasgow

Welcome back to chamber business

Welcome back to

BBC Scotland's Democracy Live coverage of the Scottish Parliament on Tuesday 3 February 2015.

The afternoon will kick off with topical questions, after time for reflection.

Conservative MSP Alex Johnstone will ask the Scottish government what action it will take in response to the oil and gas summit in Aberdeen yesterday.

North Sea oil platform
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North Sea oil platform

SNP MSP John Mason asks what impact the recent Celtic versus Rangers match had on police resources.

MSPs will then debate the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Bill.

The member's debate which will be led by SNP MSP James Dornan is on 100 Years of Langside Library.

That's lunch

That's lunch, but we will be back with time for reflection and then topical questions at 2pm.