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Summary

  1. The Rural Economy Committee takes evidence on the impact of Brexit on agriculture, forestry and fisheries
  2. Portfolio questions focuses on environment, climate change and law reform and then the rural economy and connectivity brief
  3. The Scottish Conservatives lead a debate on Scotland’s economy
  4. Labour MSP Monica Lennon leads a member’s debate praising the Time for Inclusive Education (TIE) Campaign

Live Reporting

By Colin Bell and Craig Hutchison

All times stated are UK

Goodnight from Holyrood Live

Holyrood
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After a completely consensual debate congratulating the TIE Campaign, the parliament is now adjourned.

Will that consensus continue through 4 May to 8 June on every issue? No, but it is great to see the Scottish Parliament when it comes together on an issue like this

That's all from Holyrood Live for Wednesday 19 April 2017.

Have a lovely night. 

'I'm very aware it is action that is required'

TIME FOR INCLUSIVE EDUCATION (TIE)
TIME FOR INCLUSIVE EDUCATION (TIE)
TIME FOR INCLUSIVE EDUCATION (TIE)

The minister says she won't prejudge the working group but says the government will keep a close eye on it.

Ms Somerville says: "I'm very aware it is action that is required not just a working group."

She welcomes the cross-party support on this issue and says everyone has a responsibility to support all our children. 

New LGBTi working group

Shirley-Anne Somerville
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The minister says the government announced an hour ago the creation of a new LGBTi working group.

She says the new working group will work across the spectrum and she is confident it has the right expertise to deal with issues. 

Ms Somerville says the group will work together to improve the experience for LBGTi young people in Scotland.

She says the group needs to be given the time to work on issues. 

Minister welcomes the achievements of TIE

Higher Education Minister Shirley-Anne Somerville
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Higher Education Minister Shirley-Anne Somerville

Higher Education Minister Shirley-Anne Somerville says it is right to say that "we cannot be a parliament of by-standers."

"We must be mindful of those getting on a school bus tomorrow," she says. 

Ms Somerville says Jordan and Liam's work will continue long after today but it is her hope that they reflect on how much they have achieved.

The higher education minister welcomes the achievements of TIE. 

She says health and wellbeing of children and young people is fundamental which is why it is at the heart of education. 

SNP MSP delighted the Scottish government has committed to work with TIE

SNP MSP Rhona Mackay
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SNP MSP Rhona Mackay

SNP MSP Rhona Mackay says the TIE Campaign is doing an amazing job and she, like every MSP, congratulates Jordan and Liam.

Ms Mackay says she is delighted the Scottish government has committed to work with TIE.

The SNP MSP says when LGBTi children "should be planning their future, some are planning their death.

'There are difficult obstacles to overcome but overcome them we must'

Tory MSP Jamie Greene
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Tory MSP Jamie Greene says TIE have a different approach to other campaigners.

Mr Greene says he marched behind TIE at Pride and that it has been "a journey" for him discovering what the campaigners are all about. 

The Tory MSP says it is his hope that there is positive engagement with schools of all faiths. He says people who are gay can have faith too.

He says he was bullied at school and his experiences were similar to that of his colleague Ross Thomson.

"Obstacles are difficult to overcome but overcome them we must," he says. 

Background: LGBT bullying at 'high rate' in Scotland's schools

Two young men holding hands
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In November we reported that lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) pupils were still experiencing high rates of bullying in schools, according to campaigners.

LGBT Youth Scotland said the pupils were also not confident about reporting abuse to staff.

The charity called for strong leadership from schools and local authorities on the bullying.

The Scottish government said a new anti-bullying strategy had been developed with LGBT organisations.

Read more here.

Inclusive education remains a post-code lottery says Green MSP

Green MSP Ross Greer
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Green MSP Ross Greer

Green MSP Ross Greer says there is still not equality in our schools and the experiences of LGBT pupils cannot be denied and is "quite shocking", with one in four LGBT pupils  having attempted suicide.

Mr Greer says the majority of MSPs have now signed the TIE Campaign pledge and he asks minister when the inclusive education working group will be set up.

He says all young people should be taught about the variety and validity of all relationships.

Inclusive education remains a post-code lottery and every pupil should be guaranteed one, says Mr Greer.

'This is a human rights issue and a holistic approach is required'

SNP MSP Ben Macpherson
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SNP MSP Ben Macpherson

SNP MSP Ben Macpherson says this debate is important to him and he congratulates Jordan Daly and Liam Stevenson. 

Mr Macpherson says campaigners have created a heightened awareness on LGBT issues. 

The SNP MSP says there is action being undertaken that can be built upon. 

He says teachers have set up there own LGBT groups to discuss issues in schools and that this proactive work is commendable and inspiring.

He refers to the work in this area of Leven Academy. 

"This is a human rights issue and a holistic approach is required," he says. 

More teacher training in dealing with bullying called for by Tory MSP

Conservative MSP Jeremy Balfour says the TIE Campaign highlights that any bullying is absolutely wrong.

Mr Balfour says the experience of his colleague Ross Thomson must not be repeated.

Jeremy Balfour
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He says we need to make sure teachers, headteachers and local authorities are confident about recording incidents of bullying.

What guidance is given during teacher training, asks the Tory MSP, citing evidence that only one afternoon is set aside for how to deal with this bullying. 

'Every individual has the right to be safe and to feel safe'

Labour MSP Pauline McNeill
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Labour MSP Pauline McNeill

Labour MSP Pauline McNeill says credit must go to Jordan Daly and Liam Stevenson who have lobbied hard for the basic right to be accepted for who you are.

"Every individual has the right to be safe and to feel safe," she says. 

Ms McNeill says the "shocking statistics" illustrate how far there is to go with bullying in schools.

She says everyone in the chamber has a duty to get the other 59 MSPs to sign the pledge. 

Ms McNeill says ensuring that there is counselling in schools is "really important".

'The TIE Campaign has already saved some young lives'

SNP MSP Christin McKelvie
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SNP MSP Christin McKelvie

SNP MSP Christin McKelvie says to make inclusive education and eradicate bullying must be made a reality.

Ms McKelvie also praises the TIE Campaign in the warmest terms for sparking a national debate about how to educate our young people and which has changed LGBTi lives.

She says: "The TIE Campaign has already saved some young lives."

'We must proactively stamp out prejudice'

Tory MSP Ross Thomson
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Tory MSP Ross Thomson

Tory MSP Ross Thomson says he is proud to have played his part in the campaign by signing the pledge.

Mr Thomson says there has been huge strides forward but that there is no room for complacency. 

In powerful personal testimony, he says he was bullied at primary and secondary school with insults such as "poof" and "fairy" being common. 

The Tory MSP says he wasn't openly gay at this time and he didn't come out until he was at university. 

Mr Thomson says he was still targeted and that it hurt. 

"We must proactively stamp out prejudice," he says, adding that "more must be done to eradicate prejudice."

Conservative MSP gives powerful personal testimony

'We are all hugely influenced by our early experiences'

SNP MSP James Dornan
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SNP MSP James Dornan

SNP MSP James Dornan says "we are all hugely influenced by our early experiences".

Mr Dornan says he was brought up to consider everyone as equal.

He says it is no secret that his office manager has a daughter who is transgender and previously self-harmed.

The SNP MSP says she previously got mental health support from CAMHS and her school is very supportive.

Mr Dornan says his brother Michael is gay and he didn't come out to his family until he was 17 due to attitudes at that time.

'This is not about resources it is about doing the right thing'

Ms Lennon says she met with a 13 year old constituent who told her that her LGBT friends were not being respected by some teachers.

The Labour MSP says she wants her child to accept others and be accepted in return.

Ms Lennon says: "This is not about resources it is about doing the right thing."

She pays tribute to Jordan Daly's and Liam Stevenson for the TIE Campaign, Stonewall Scotland and LGBT Youth Scotland.

Labour MSP highlights TIE Campaigner Jordan Daly's experiences

Monica Lennon
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Ms Lennon says the TIE campaign is a story of survival.

The Labour MSP says TIE campaigner, and founder, Jordan Daly contemplated suicide at the age of 12.

She says when Jordan met straight friend, Liam, at the age of 19 made a difference and helped him. 

Ms Lennon says she has met with Jordan recently to discuss his experiences. 

Labour MSP says she absolutely loves the TIE campaign

Labour MSP Monica Lennon
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Labour MSP Monica Lennon

Labour MSP Monica Lennon says she is leading the debate because she has chosen not to be a bystander and she says LGBT inclusive education remains an aspiration rather than a reality.

Ms Lennon says 69 MSPs have signed the TIE pledge and they have chosen not to be bystanders either.

She says the TIE Campaign challenge the Scottish government to bring forward legislation.

The Labour MSPS says TIE is her kind of campaign and she absolutely loves it.

Ms Lennon says she has never experienced the fear, isolation and bullying that others have

Labour MSP Monica Lennon
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Labour MSP Monica Lennon

Labour MSP Monica Lennon says a few years ago she was having a "gossipy get-together" with friends from work.

Ms Lennon says one of her friends then informed them that she is gay. 

The Labour MSP says it took courage and bravery to announce this to her work colleagues. 

Ms Lennon says she is a straight woman and therefore has never experienced the fear, isolation and bullying that others have. 

TIE five strategic steps to achieve LGBT-inclusive education

Ms Lennon says Scotland has to do more to ensure that LGBT young people are safe at school.

The Labour MSP says that TIE has outlined five strategic steps to achieve LGBT-inclusive education, including:

  • new legislation
  • teacher training specifically on LGBT issues
  • the recording of homophobic, biphobic and transphobic bullying incidents
  • inclusion of LGBT issues within relevant curricular areas 
  • the monitoring of any steps taken with regards to LGBT inclusivity in schools 

Background: Time For Inclusive Education (TIE)

TIE Campaign website homepage
TIE

Taken from the TIE website

"We are a Scottish campaign group - founded in June 2015 - which has one very simple aim: 

  • to combat homophobia, biphobia and transphobia with inclusive education

Despite recent progress towards LGBTI equality, our schools remain breeding grounds for discrimination and prejudice based bullying. 

We believe in an education system which is inclusive and free of prejudice for LGBTI youth, and we are lobbying decision makers in order to achieve this."

'90% of LGBT people experience homophobia, biphobia or transphobia at school'

Person holding pride flag
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Labour MSP Monica Lennon highlights recent research which found that 90% of LGBT people experience homophobia, biphobia or transphobia at school.

Ms Lennon says that, despite the repeal of Section 28, 17 years ago, many schools in the Central Scotland region and across the country still do not discuss LGBT issues.

The Labour MSP says Time for Inclusive Education (TIE) calls for LGBT-inclusive education to be commonplace in all schools as a method of tackling prejudice-based behaviours.

Time for Inclusive Education Campaign debate begins

Labour MSP Monica Lennon will then lead a member’s debate praising the Time for Inclusive Education (TIE) Campaign.

Here is Ms Lennon's motion.

Motion
Scottish Parliament

The Tory motion as amended by the government is agreed to

The Tory motion as amended by the government is agreed to with 62 MSPs backing it and 55 against.

Tory motion
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Gov amendment
Scottish Parliament

The Scottish government amendment is agreed to

The Scottish government amendment is agreed to with 62 MSPs backing it and 55 against.

Government amendment
Scottish Parliament

Tory MSP says SNP must choose economic growth over independence

Mr Lockhart
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Mr Lockhart asks why cutting the enterprise budget by 40% will help.

SNP MSP Tom Arthur intervenes insisting that Scotland is not the highest taxed part of the UK.

Mr Lockhart refers to the Fraser of Allander Institute (much mentioned today!) and says he has no time to go further into it.

He goes on to say the SNP must choose between economic growth or its continuing obsession with independence.

Mr Lockhart concludes saying: "The SNP have been a disaster for Scotland."