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Summary

  1. The Education Committee takes evidence from teachers and teacher trainees on the recruitments and retention of staff in schools
  2. Health and sport minister take this week's portfolio questions
  3. Scottish Labour will then lead a debate on health calling for the 'NHS pay cap' to be scrapped
  4. SNP MSP Emma Harper will lead this afternoon's member's debate by celebrating International Nurses Day

Live Reporting

By Craig Hutchison and Colin Bell

All times stated are UK

Goodnight from Holyrood Live

That ends our coverage of the Scottish Parliament for Wednesday 10 May 2017.

We'll be back tomorrow morning.

Have a good night. 

Holyrood
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Nurses are valued and appreciated says minister

Public Health Minister Maureen Watt
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Public Health Minister Maureen Watt says nurses make up the largest single profession in the NHS.

Ms Watt says every person in the chamber has, often literally, been touched by the work that nurses do.

The public health minister says nurses are valued and appreciated. 

She says it is more important than ever that there is a nursing workforce that is equipped for the future.

Ms Watt says it is important to attract nurses in the future. 

She says the government is delivering a record number of nurses and midwives and supports student nurses with bursaries.

'Nurses are essential in society and deserve our respect'

Tory MSP Gordon Lindhurst
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Tory MSP Gordon Lindhurst says these are people we depend upon to help us through some of the most difficult times in our lives.

Mr Lindhurst says it is important to remember the debt we owe to all healthcare professionals.

"Nurses are essential in society and deserve our respect," he says. 

'Lets hope we never have to meet them but we know that they are there'

SNP MSP Stewart Stevenson
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SNP MSP Stewart Stevenson says nurses today are highly trained and when he was a nurse in 1964 it was not the case. 

Mr Stevenson says nurses are important in primary care in a way that they weren't before. 

Of the valuable work nurses do, he says "lets hope we never have to meet them but know that they are there."

Nurses working in communities are at the centre of early prevention

Green MSP Alison Johnstone
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Green MSP Alison Johnstone says it must be ensured that nurses have opportunities to enhance their skills with training.

Ms Johnstone says strengthening preventative health in schools is vital.

She says that nurses working in communities are at the centre of early prevention. 

Labour MSP disappointed that nurses pay rise has just been voted down

Anas Sarwar
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Labour MSP Anas Sarwar pays tribute to nurses and the trade unions that support them.

Mr Sarwar says it is important to recognise that the UK has the healthcare system it does and that this is often taken for granted.

He says he notes with disappointment that a nurses pay rise has just been voted down in the previous debate. 

Mr Sarwar says a nurse said to him this morning that goodwill is one thing but it does not put food on the table. 

'They are the bastions of our health service and we must remember that'

Tory MSP Donald Cameron
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Tory MSP Donald Cameron says nurses are the public face of the NHS with an incredibly tough job.

"They are the bastions of our health service and we must remember that," he says. 

Mr Cameron says more must be done to attract more men and women to nursing. 

'Lets tell our nurses we appreciate the outstanding work they do'

SNP MSP Clare Haughey
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SNP MSP Clare Haughey pays tribute to Florence Nightingale.

Ms Haughey says change is the one constant for nursing and that nurses move forward with what works.

The SNP MSP says we need to be open to discussion to what can be done more effectively. 

Ms Haughey says Pauline Cafferkey is a constituent of hers and she is an example of a nurse who strives to improve the lives of others.

"Lets tell our nurses we appreciate the outstanding work they do," she says. 

Ask the leaders - your chance to get involved.................

Background: Mary Seacole

Mary Seacole
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Mary Seacole (1805-1851) was a Jamaican-born nurse who cared for wounded British soldiers during the Crimean War in the 19th Century.  

Learn more about Mary Seacole here.

Background: Florence Nightingale

Florence Nightingale
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Florence Nightingale was so much more than a lady with a lamp. The legend of the saintly nurse has long obscured the truth – that her mathematical genius was what really saved so many lives.

Her ambition led her into the hellish world of Crimean warfare and, as a result, on a journey that would transform nursing and hospitals in Britain.

Learn more about Florence Nightingale here.

SNP MSP thanks the Scottish government for keeping the student bursaries

Emma Harper
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Ms Harper says May the 12 is chosen date because it is the birthday of Florence Nightingale. 

The SNP MSP says Mary Seacole is another nurse who should be celebrated. 

"Both were formidable women who cared for soldiers," she says. 

She thanks the Scottish government for keeping the student bursaries. 

International Nurse Day

International Nurses Day
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Taken from the RCN website:

"Nursing staff are the superheroes of health care. You're there when needed most, changing lives with your unique set of skills. On Friday 12 May we want to say thank you!"

#nurseheroes

SNP MSP details excellent work nurses do globally

SNP MSP Emma Harper
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SNP MSP Emma Harper says: "I am a nurse"

SNP MSP Emma Harper details the excellent work of nurses across the world.

Ms Harper says: "I am a nurse."

The SNP MSP says she was a nurse for 33 years and she says she still approaches problems with her "nurse heid on".

She says according to the RCN "nurses are the superheroes of healthcare".

Shaping health policy and education are key roles in nursing says Ms Harper

Ms Harper says that nursing encompasses the autonomous and collaborative care of individuals of all ages, families and communities in all settings.

She says this includes the promotion of health, prevention of illness and care of people who are ill, disabled and who are dying.

Nurse
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The SNP MSP says that advocacy, promotion of a safe environment, research, participation in shaping health policy and education are also key roles in nursing.

She calls for everyone to mark International Nurses Day in some way, whether it be by sharing messages of support on social media, learning more about the hard work nurses do, or fundraising for a charity that supports nursing staff.    

International Nurses Day is celebrated on the 12 May

SNP MSP Emma Harper uses her motion to highlight International Nurses Day 2017, which is celebrated around the world every year on 12 May.

Ms Harper says that this date is the anniversary of Florence Nightingale’s birth.

Florence Nightingale
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International Nurses Day is celebrated on the 12 May which is the anniversary of Florence Nightingale's birth.

The SNP MSP says that Mary Seacole also contributed immensely to furthering the caring for ill and recuperating patients.

She understands that nurses are the single largest group of healthcare professionals in the UK.

International Nurses Day debate begins

Here is SNP MSP Emma Harper's motion:

Motion
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The Labour motion, as amended by the government, is agreed to

The Labour motion, as amended by the Scottish government, is agreed to with 62 MSPs voting for and 55 against

Labour motion
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Government amendment
Scottish Parliament

The Scottish government amendment is agreed to

The Scottish government amendment is agreed to with 62 MSPs backing it and 55 against.

This preempts the amendment from the Tories.

Government amendment
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Decision time

We now move to decision time.

Labour MSP says many nurses are having to use food banks to feed their families

Labour MSP Colin Smyth
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Labour MSP Colin Smyth

Labour MSP Colin Smyth says his party supports partnership working if it can deliver the pay rise it is calling for.

Mr Smyth says pay restraint has clearly damaged NHS finances and morale.

The Labour MSP says many nurses are having to use food banks to feed their families.

He says no wonder nurses are being balloted for industrial action to end the pay cap and he stresses that is in Scotland too. 

Mr Smyth says it is time to vote to give the NHS a well deserved pay rise.

Labour MSP says the SNP are in denial over NHS pay

Labour MSP Coin Smyth says the SNP are in denial on the pay constraint on NHS recruitment.

Mr Smyth says SNP member after member had more to say about England and Wales than they did about Scotland.

He accuses Tory MSP Miles Briggs of making a bid for the Welsh Assembly, following his closing speech.

Labour MSPs says best way to support NHS staff is by providing them with decent pay

Labour MSP Colin Smyth
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Labour MSP Colin Smyth

Labour MSP Colin Smyth says parliament can show it is on the side of NHS staff at decision time by backing the Labour motion.

Mr Smyth says the best way to support and repay the NHS staff is by providing them with decent pay and conditions and adequate staffing levels,.

He says there is a recruitment crisis across the NHS and a "ticking time bomb" of GPs waiting to retire.

The Labour MSP says there are 2,500 nursing vacancies leading to an increase on the burdens of existing staff.

Minister says she will address pay with unions in coming weeks

Health Secretary Shona Robison
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Health Secretary Shona Robison

Health Secretary Shona Robison says the unions like partnership working in the NHS.

Ms Robison concludes saying she will address pay and other staff concerns with the unions when she meets them in the next few weeks.

Scottish government is outperforming other governments

Ms Robison says the government has maintained the student nurse bursary and that there is a high level of interest in courses. 

The health secretary says she has no difficulty in members criticising the record of the government with NHS Scotland but that they must recognise that the Scottish government is outperforming other governments. 

Labour MSP Anas Sarwar intervenes to say he does recognise what Mr Robison has said and he welcomes some of the measures being taken by the Scottish government but asks why the government did not recommend a higher pay rise. 

Ms Robison says that all paths lead back to the UK Treasury and the Scottish government is constrained. 

Minister accepts vacancy levels are too high

Health Secretary Shona Robison
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Health Secretary Shona Robison says Anas Sarwar and Monica Lennon gave powerful testimony of the support their families received from the NHS.

Ms Robson says her family has also received such care and she thanks them from the bottom of her heart.

The health secretary says the demands on the NHS continue to rise and in terms of vacancy levels, "yes they are too high".

She says agency spend is also too high.

Radical culture change is needed and required says Tory MSP

Mr Briggs says a radical culture change is needed and required. 

The Tory MSP says staff shortages are wide spread and spending on agency staff has increased.

Tory MSP attacks Labour and SNP on their health records

Conservative MSP Miles Briggs
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Conservative MSP Miles Briggs

Conservative MSP Miles Briggs says the NHS in Wales, under the Labour party, there has been no pay rise.

Mr Briggs says waiting times are at their highest in Wales and patients have to wait five weeks longer than they do in England.

The Tory MSP the impact of Labour on the Scottish NHS is still being seen.

He says it is an ongoing scandal that parking charges are as high as they are at Edinburgh Royal Infirmary.

Deputy Presiding Officer Linda Fabiani says Mr Briggs should address the motion and amendments, echoing Christine Grahame earlier.

Mr Briggs goes on to say Scotland's NHS has  declined on the SNP's watch.

NHS staff pay is linked to the Tory austerity agenda says SNP MSP

SNP MSP Emma Harper
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SNP MSP Emma Harper thanks Anas Sarwar for his opening statement on his own family and says that, as her colleague Mr Dornan noted, everyone will have had experience with the NHS.

Ms Harper, a former nurse, says that NHS staff pay is directly linked to the Tory austerity agenda. 

Labour MSP Neil Findlay intervenes to ask why the budget extends to pay increases for prison officers but not nurses.

An emotional Emma Harper says she would like to see pay increases for nurses but asks how that is possible with budget cuts from the UK government. 

Ms Harper says the government have implemented recommendations by the independent pay review. 

'Under this constrained budget the Scottish government should be congratulated'

SNP MSP Maree Todd
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SNP MSP Maree Todd says the Westminster government have not passed on an increase for years and that Scotland's NHS staff are now paid more than their counterparts in England. 

Ms Todd says she does believe that NHS staff should be paid more but she wonders if that is possible with UK government austerity. 

The SNP MSP says that if the UK survey had only been completed in Scotland then there would have been different results.

"Under this constrained budget the Scottish government should be congratulated," she says. 

'This is a major contributory factor to people choosing other careers'

Labour MSP Neil Findlay
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Labour MSP Neil Findlay says the government are clearly acting now and would never have acted if this motion was not brought forward.

He says his wife and daughter work in the NHS and their colleagues have suffered austerity under pay measures for years. 

"The system is creaking at the scenes," and this adversely impacts on women, he says. He points out the increasing reliance on agency staff.

Public Health Minister Aileen Campbell asks if Mr Findlay has taken this to the Labour-run Welsh government who spend more on agency staff than the Scottish government do. 

"This is a major contributory factor to people choosing other careers," he says. 

Agency nurses has increased by almost 50% in one year

Tory MSP Maurice Corry
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Tory MSP Maurice Corry says the Scottish government has taken a short term view on nursing vacancies in Scotland. 

Mr Corry says every empty post puts a stress on an already stretched staff.

The Tory MSP says the use of agency nurses has increased by almost 50% in one year.

He says there will always be a need for locum staff but that they should not be relied upon. 

'Scotland is outperforming its counterparts' in the NHS

SNP MSP Ivan McKee
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SNP MSP Ivan McKee says he welcomes the Labour party bringing this debate to the parliament because it gives an opportunity to highlight the different approaches of the Scottish, UK and Welsh governments.

Mr McKee says the Scottish government has stood by the agreements with the independent review body and increased nurses pay to the recommended levels.

The SNP MSP says nursing bursaries are still in place in Scotland and nursing students pay no fees. 

He says that NHS England is suffering from double the vacancy rate of that in NHS Scotland.

"Scotland is outperforming its counterparts" in the NHS, he says.

'The system is buckling under the weight of demand'

Lib Dem MSP Alex Cole-Hamilton
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Lib Dem MSP Alex Cole-Hamilton says nurses help the most vulnerable in society without thought of reward.

Mr Cole-Hamilton says we ask so much of those in healthcare with very little reward.

He says to continue on this route will pose a real threat to how health and social care is delivered. 

The Lib Dem MSP says adequate investment in the NHS workforce is vital and "the system is buckling under the weight of demand."

Mr Cole-Hamilton says A&E waiting times act "as a weather vein" to other issues within the NHS.

"There is a colossal problem of bed blocking in the NHS," he says. 

Green MSP to support the Labour motion

Greens MSP Alison Johstone
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Greens MSP Alison Johstone says it is time for the pay cap to be scrapped.

Ms Johnstone says many staff are looking back on years of real term pay cuts. 

She says she will support the motion today. 

The Green MSP says nurses are undervalued and a staggering 14% have missed meals due to financial constraints.

Ms Johnstone says NHS staff really feel that unfairness when they see what is being paid to locums.

'We need to build a sustainable future for our NHS'

Tory MSP Brian Whittle
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Tory MSP Brian Whittle says his daughter is a healthcare professional in the NHS.

Mr Whittle asks how NHS staff can maintain high standards under their current working conditions. 

The Tory MSP says there is a difficulty in GP recruitment across the country. 

He says "it is all very well having the rhetoric but it is action that matters". 

Mr Whittle says the GP practices that suffer the most are those in rural areas and the patients lose continuity. 

"We need to build a sustainable future for our NHS," he says. 

Background: BMA: Scotland's NHS is stretched to 'breaking point'

BMA chairman Peter Bennie says NHS 'near breaking point'

The health service in Scotland is "stretched pretty much to breaking point", according to a doctors' leader.

Peter Bennie, the chairman of the British Medical Association (BMA) in Scotland, warned that staff shortages could lead to "system breakdown".

Mr Bennie called for a major increase in funding or an "honest debate" about what services the NHS could offer.

The Scottish government said it recognised that it must "up the pace of change" in the health service.

Mr Bennie was asked about the current state of the NHS during an interview on the BBC's Sunday Politics Scotland in January.

'Don't challenge me please'

Deputy Presiding Officer Christine Grahame
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Deputy Presiding Officer Christine Grahame

Mr Dornan and Labour MSP Neil Findlay clash over parking charges for NHS staff and patients and traffic management.

Deputy Presiding Officer Christine Grahame tells off James Dornan and Mr Findlay as he tries to raise a point of order.

Mr Dornan riks pressing the deputy presiding offfcer to be met with a very stern: "Don't challenge me please."