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Summary

  1. The Education Committee takes evidence on the recruitment and retention of teachers in Scotland's schools
  2. Tory MSP Liam Kerr leads a debate on cycle capacity on Scotland's railways
  3. First Minister Nicola Sturgeon gives a ministerial statement at 2pm
  4. Economy, jobs and fair work ministers are in the hot seats for portfolio questions followed by finance and the constitution ministers
  5. The Scottish government leads a debate on achieving a cyber-resilient Scotland
  6. Tory MSP Finlay Carson leads this evening's member's debate on the establishment of new national parks

Live Reporting

By Colin Bell and Craig Hutchison

All times stated are UK

Goodnight from Holyrood Live...

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That ends our coverage of the Scottish Parliament for Wednesday 24 May 2017.

We'll be back tomorrow,

Have a good night.

'I don't believe we can divert resources from other priority areas to create a new national park at present'

Ms Cunningham says before applying national park status to new areas, the impact to areas must be considered.

The land reform secretary says that today she has seen no evidence that the creation of seven national parks will be of economic benefit.

Tory MSP Edward Mountain intervenes to say that no one is suggesting seven national parks should be set up at once.

Ms Cunningham says that is not what she is suggesting but there would be a rigorous conversation over which should be given national park status first.

"I don't believe we can divert resources from other priority areas to create a new national park at present," she says.

'We simply don't have tens-of-millions of pounds' to assign to a new national park

Land Reform Secretary Roseanna Cunningham
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Land Reform Secretary Roseanna Cunningham says the benefits of existing national parks are recognised by the government.

Ms Cunningham says Galloway is only one of seven locations mentioned as potential sites for national park status.

Green MSP Mark Ruskell asks if SNH do not have the money to look into potential sites for a new national park.

Ms Cunningham says the government does not share the confidence at others that a new national park could be set up at minimal costs.

"We simply don't have tens-of-millions of pounds" to assign to a new national park, she says.

'National parks benefit our well being'

Greens MSP Alison Johnstone
BBC

Greens MSP Alison Johnstone says there is a convincing case to offer national park status to any of the seven sites mentioned.

Ms Johnstone says she is in favour of more national parks in Scotland and highlights the benefits in economic growth and employment.

The Green MSP says the Visit Norway website boasts 44 national parks.

She says the government's objections are cost related but that she would encourage a long term view.

"National parks benefit our well being", she says

Background: Five-year plan for UK's biggest national park

Cairngorms
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The Cairngorms National Park is twice the size of the Lake District National Park

A plan has been produced for managing the largest national park in the UK for the next five years.

Proposals for the Cairngorms include increasing woodland, restoring peatland and investing in walking routes on Deeside and Speyside.

The proposal will be considered by the Cairngorms National Park Authority's (CNPA) board before going to the Scottish government for approval.

The park covers parts of the Highlands, Aberdeenshire and Perthshire.

It also covers Angus and Moray.

Tory MSP calls for government review into a potential Galloway National Park

Tory MSP Edward Mountain
BBC

Tory MSP Edward Mountain says that Scotland only having two national parks does not seem right considering its landscape.

Mr Mountain says the issue of governance within the Cairngorms National Park still remains an issue.

The Tory MSP says he is surprised that the government cannot see any benefits in another national park and that it may be a fear of giving more powers locally.

He says another park could help economic growth develop further.

He calls on the government to hold a review into whether Galloway would be a suitable site for a national park.

Background: Loch Lomond and Trossachs National Park camping by-laws come into force

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The camping permit areas are shown in orange

New seasonal by-laws came into force in February restricting camping around Loch Lomond and in the Trossachs.

Camping in four management zones in popular areas between March and September will require a permit or booking a campsite pitch.

Loch Lomond and the Trossachs National Park said the move was to protect the area from antisocial behaviour, including littering and fireraising.

Ramblers Scotland say there will not be enough pitches to cope with demand.

SNP MSP questions where the money will come from to fund a new national park

SNP MSP Graeme Dey
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SNP MSP Graeme Dey says there will always be challenges around national parks point out the camping by-laws required in Loch Lomond and the Trossachs.

Mr Dey says the creation of a new national park could take between 2-4 years.

The SNP MSP asks where the money is going to come from to fund a new park.

He says does in principle support further national parks but that there are challenges to consider.

A new park could attract between 250,000 and 500,000 extra visitors per year

Labour MSP Colin Smyth
BBC

Labour MSP Colin Smyth says the national parks that already exist have brought many benefits.

Mr Smyth says Scotland has just two of the UK's 15 national parks with 10 in England and three in Wales.

The Labour MSP says it is "unfinished business" because Scotland's landscape means it could have more national parks.

He says seven possible locations have been mentioned as possible sites for national parks and that these could bring benefits to the local regions.

He says a new park could attract between 250,000 and 500,000 extra visitors per year.

Important and right to have more national parks says Tory MSP

Tory MSP Maurice Corry
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Tory MSP Maurice Corry says the Scottish Conservatives supported further national parks in its 2016 manifesto.

Mr Corry says 58% of Scotland's visitors said that the appeal of visiting Scotland was the landscape and scenery.

SNP MSP Kate Forbes says one of the problems with national parks is that house prices rise and she asks if that has also been a problem in Loch Lomond.

Mr Corry says this has been and issue.

The Tory MSP says it is important and right to have more national parks but that they must be used correctly.

'National parks are not a silver-bullet and do carry significant costs'

SNP MSP Emma Harper
BBC

SNP MSP Emma Harper says the proposal for a Galloway national park will have to suit the whole region and there are advantages and disadvantages to it.

The SNP MSP says there has been opposition to it from people in the area.

She says "national parks are not a silver-bullet and do carry significant costs."

'In Galloway we tick all the boxes'

Mr Carson says "In Galloway we tick all the boxes" and all that's required is recognition.

The Tory MSP says Dumfies and Galloway council have agreed to be actively involved in any proposals.

He says it is important that any new part is demanded by a community and not imposed on a community.

Mr Carson says the cost of running the park could be more than off-set against the economic benefits.

He says there would be a boost to employment and that people come from all over the world to enjoy Scotland's scenery.

'We don't want to moth-ball our area'

Tory MSP Finlay Carson
BBC

Tory MSP Finlay Carson says national parks welcome many visitors who enjoy their natural qualities.

Mr Carson says "we don't want to moth-ball our area" in Galloway.

The Tory MSP says he does not believe that anyone can make better decisions about how to manage an area than those living there.

He says a Galloway national park would be very different to those that already exist.

Tory MSP calls on government review of national parks...

Loch Lomond and the Trosssachs
BBC

Tory MSP Finlay Carson highlights the value of Scotland’s outstanding natural beauty, which creates jobs, contributes to the economy and attracts millions of tourists.

Mr Carson highlights the success of the Cairngorms and Loch Lomond and The Trossachs national parks in conserving and enhancing the natural heritage of these areas.

The Tory MSP calls on the Scottish government to conduct a review of national parks and consider the establishment of new ones.

Here is Tory MSP Finlay Carson's motion

Here is Tory MSP Finlay Carson's motion...

Motion
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'The Establishment of New National Parks' debate

Conservative MSP Finlay Carson will now lead a member's debate entitled 'The Establishment of New National Parks'.

The government motion as amended is agreed to unanimously

The government motion as amended is agreed to unanimously

Government motion
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Tory amendment
Scottish Parliament
Labour amendment
Scottish Parliament

The Scottish Labour amendment is agreed to unanimously

The Scottish Labour amendment is agreed to unanimously

Labour amendment
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The Scottish Conservative amendment is agreed to unanimously

The Scottish Conservative amendment is agreed to unanimously

Tory amendment
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We now move to decision time....

MSPs will now vote on the achieving a cyber resilient Scotland debate.

Minister says we need to understand why some health boards were not affected

Justice Secretary Michael Matheson says the Scottish government must work with the UK government and all of the different sectors that have a part to play in cyber security.

That means the public sector, private sector and third sector must share best practice he says.

Mr Matheson says that is why the government created the National Cyber Resiliance Leaders' Board.

Cybersecurity concerns will loom large in 2016 for many businesses
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Cybersecurity concerns will loom large in 2016 for many businesses

The justice secretary says this was not an attack on the NHS, it was an attack on public sector organisations and private sector organisations across the world.

Labour MSP Claire Baker says the attack did expose some weaknesses in the public sector.

Mr Matheson says the NHS in England were more adversely affected than here in Scotland and we need to understand why some health boards were not affected while others were.

Government will support both the Tory and Labour amendments

Justice Secretary Michael Matheson
BBC

Justice Secretary Michael Matheson says valuable contributions have been made with points that merit further consideration.

Mr Matheson says the government will support both the Tory and Labour amendments.

The justice secretary says that no one in the chamber should be under any illusion about the threats that are faced by Scotland, the UK and the world in cyber-crime.

He says no government alone can tackle this and that it is a collective responsibility to work collaboratively.

Scottish Conservatives support government motion and Labour amendment

Tory MSP Dean Lockhart
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Tory MSP Dean Lockhart says in the UK we spend more time on media and communications than we do sleeping.

Mr Lockhart says "we will be supporting the government motion and the Labour amendment."

The Tory MSP says the concept of cyber-resilience stretches "far beyond" what we might refer to as cyber-security and that it is particularly important for large organisations.

He says for large organisations there must be a whole system approach to protecting against cyber-attacks.

Mr Lockhart says the systems must be up to date and that there must be better digital training.

He says keeping software updated, installing virus software, regularly changing passwords and staff training can protect against cyber-attacks.

'We must place a greater emphasis on education'

Labour MSP Mary Fee
BBC

Labour MSP Mary Fee says her heart is with the families of the people who were cruelly taken along with the injured following the Manchester attack.

Ms Fee says we must promote safety online to protect ourselves from cyber-attacks.

The Labour MSP says online commerce is growing in Scotland and we must ensure the internet remains a safe place to carry out business.

"We must place a greater emphasis on education," she says.

She says that questions have been asked on cyber-security since 2010 and the government's response has been less than satisfactory.

Ms Fee says the government has produced a positive strategy but that this should be updated annually.

Law enforcement has to have the tools to 'hit back when appropriate'

Tory MSP Liam Kerr
BBC

Tory MSP Liam Kerr says digital technology is at the centre of our lives.

Mr Kerr says with every new breakthrough it can seem the opportunities are endless but that with those opportunities come threats.

The Tory MSP says there is no one type of cyber-criminals and it can be an bored-adolescent, organised gangs or international spies.

He says both the UK and Scottish government have published cyber-strategies and law enforcement has to have the tools to "hit back when appropriate".

'We must stop using out of date computer systems'

SNP MSP Willie Coffey
BBC

SNP MSP Willie Coffey says software people were not surprised by how quick this cyber-attack spread across the world.

Mr Coffey says such attacks involves "a worm" moving through the system and looking for vulnerable victims pointing out that the NHS was not targeted.

The SNP MSP says some computer systems were out of date and not protected from this.

He says he is in no doubt that this will happen again and that "we must stop using out of date computer systems".

It is up to the government to protect us from attack says Greens MSP

Greens MSP John Finnie
BBC

Greens MSP John Finnie says it is clear that when it comes to IT, other people tell us how to protect ourselves and the price we should pay for it.

Mr Finnie says this is consumerism and that thee are some "holding people to ransom" for protection.

The Greens MSP says the NHS was not targeted for attack but that it's vulnerability in windows was exploited.

He says "we need a free and open internet" and that it is up to the government to protect us from attack.

Why are there are still antiquated computer systems in our public health services?

Anas Sarwar
BBC

Labour MSP Anas Sarwar says there are those that are prepared to attack individuals and communities.

Mr Sarwar says the Scottish government had been warned about the potential for attacks.

The Labour MSP asks why there are still antiquated computer systems in our public health services.

He asks what advice has been given and if this can be published and what additional resource has been provided following the attack.

'If we don't know the threat we can't protect against it'

SNP MSP Clare Adamson
BBC

SNP MSP Clare Adamson says there is a false sense of security when you have that tick on your software suggesting that you are protected.

Ms Adamson says "if we don't know the threat we can't protect against it".

The SNP MSP says this is a human problem requiring a human solution.

Lib Dem MSP says his party will be backing the Scottish government's motion

Lib Dem MSP Liam McArthur
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Lib Dem MSP Liam McArthur

Lib Dem MSP Liam McArthur says his party will be backing the Scottish government's motion.

Mr McArthur says HMICS has acknowledged that police officers have been told to tag reports with cyber markers, but this does not extend to all cyber incidents.

He says we need to take care about talking about lower levels of crime overall if there has been displacement online.

The Lib Dem MSP says Mr Swinney is absolutely right to emphasise the importance of personal responsibility.

Here is the Scottish Labour amendment

Here is the Scottish Labour amendment.

Labour amendment
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Cyber-resilience is being able to prepare for, withstand and prevent attacks

Clare Baker
BBC

Ms Baker says that in Scotland there have been well-documented IT problems and that this does dent confidence.

The Labour MSP says investment is required to ensure the country can withstand future attacks.

She says when it comes to cyber-attacks, Scotland must not work alone and work with other home nations and beyond.

Ms Baker says cyber-resilience is being able to prepare for, withstand and prevent attacks.

She says Police Scotland is facing a significant financial challenge and we need to make sure organisations have the resources available.

NHS cyber attack a set back in public confidence

Labour MSP Clare Baker
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Labour MSP Clare Baker

Labour MSP Clare Baker says her thoughts are with the families affected by the terrible attack on Monday night.

Ms Baker says we must be safe online and off line.

She says cyber resilience is an important strategy.

The Labour MSP says following the recent attack on the NHS this debate is reactive rather than proactive.

She says the Scottish government published its strategy in 2015 and this recent attack is a setback in confidence in the IT of public services.

Tories will support Scottish government cyber-security plans

Jamie Greene
BBC

Mr Greene says the Scottish Conservatives will support the government's current cyber-security plans but that this will be conditional on realistic plans being produced.

The Tory MSP says a cyber-security firm has recently set-up in Belfast , creating jobs. He says this was made possible by a grant and asks if similar targeted investment could be offered in Glasgow or Dundee.

He says this would offer real opportunity in jobs and growth.

Here is the Scottish Conservative amendment

Here is the Scottish Conservative amendment.

Tory amendment
Scottish Parliament

'Preparation is everything'

nurses
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Mr Greene says evidence suggests several hospitals did not install their updates.

Mr Greene says: "There is a shared responsibility on all of us to show we are prepared to deal with online threats."

The Tory MSP says evidence suggests several hospitals did not install their updates.

He says: "Preparation is everything."

Mr Greene says: "In the digital world we are not shielded by being an island."