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Stay-at-home dads on the increase

5 April 2014 Last updated at 18:34 BST

There has been a big increase in the number of stay-at-home fathers, according to recent figures from the Office for National Statistics - 230,000 approximately, and rising.

John Humphrys spoke to Guardian columnist Zoe Williams and Billy McGranaghan, chief executive of the Dad's House charity.

He started by asking why Billy McGranaghan believed that stay-at-home dads have a tougher time than mums.