Tory MP's group wants net migration target dropped

 
David Cameron with Theresa May at a Border Agency visit in 2010 David Cameron and Home Secretary Theresa May want net migration cut

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Prime Minister David Cameron is being urged to drop his pledge to cut net migration to "the tens of thousands".

The call comes from a new Tory campaign group, Managed Migration, which claims the support of up to 20 Tory MPs.

The group's organiser, Conservative MP Mark Field, warned Mr Cameron against getting into "a Dutch auction" over immigration numbers and said he could not "out-UKIP UKIP".

But Mr Cameron said the target was still "important".

"It is right to target a reduction in immigration," he said on a visit to Hull.

"If you look at immigration from outside the European Union, it is down by a third and it is at its lowest level since 1998 and we have to keep working towards that important target."

However, Mr Field, the MP for the Cities of London and Westminster, said the target was "impractical", harmed Britain's global competitiveness and was clearly not going to be met.

'Wrong signals'

"Very few voters out there believe we can deliver on it and, indeed, all the evidence suggests it is now moving in the wrong direction," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

"And, of course, very few businesses - and I feel that very close to my heart, representing the sort of seat I do - believe it is practical.

"And it risks, in my view, sending out the wrong signals about our openness - and Britain's traditional openness - as a trading nation, to the world at large."

He said recent big increases in net migration were a sign that the UK's economy was recovering strongly.

Chart showing migration figures 2004-13

"We have been victims of our own success. One of the reasons we are not able to achieve the net migration figure is that we are so outperforming our European neighbours that many people are coming from Spain and Portugal and France to these shores, and fewer people want to leave, so therefore net migration is going up and up."

He said he was not not calling for David Cameron to drop the net migration target immediately - but said it should not be in the Conservative Party's next election manifesto.

"We need a more calm debate about this going forward.

"And I think the difficulty is we are not going to be able to out-UKIP UKIP. I have a lot of respect for Nigel Farage but he has very different views on this to me."

'Still time'

Net migration is the difference between the numbers of people moving to live in the UK and the numbers of people leaving.

The latest figures show net annual migration rose 58,000 to 212,000 in the year to September 2013.

Although levels steadily declined in 2012 after tighter restrictions on non-EU migrants took effect, the trend has since reversed - largely due to the increase in the number of migrants from other EU countries.

At the Westminster launch of his Conservatives for a Managed Migration group, he denied being a lone voice, despite no other Conservative MPs attending the event.

Mark Field calls for an end to the "artificial and arbitrary" target figure of 100,000 net immigrants a year in the UK

He said he hoped to get more MPs on board but said "many times" his colleagues had told him they agreed with his view but said "we are worried about UKIP and therefore we would rather not be publicly associated".

Labour immigration spokesman David Hanson said: "Labour has long called for a calm and rational discussion about immigration, so we welcome Mark Field's opposition to the shrill and ineffective approach adopted by their own Government."

Conservative chairman Grant Shapps said earlier this month that there was "still time" for the target to be met.

But Lib Dem business secretary Vince Cable has repeatedly called for it to be dropped - and angered immigration minister James Brokenshire by saying recent increases in net migration were "good news".

 

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  • rate this
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    Comment number 1131.

    30. 010101010
    6 HOURS AGO
    Perpetual importation of cheap labour is just a Ponzi scheme and like all such schemes they will collapse.

    Yes well said it is just that a Ponzi scheme bringing more and more younger people to work will also get old and be dependents by that time we will need a million more each year to serve the old.

    completely unsustaniable

    Complete Madness and Dave cares not.

  • rate this
    +10

    Comment number 1130.

    Jack Napier. You should go out more. England is the second most densely populated region in Europe (after Malta). Round our way green fields are the only option for house building and the whole country is gradually turning into an urban sprawl. How are we going to feed the over 100 million people occupying the country by 2050 when the countryside is covered in housing?

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1129.

    Congratulations to Mark Field for standing out against the mainstream Tory view. Managed migration is good for jobs for locals, good for UK economy especially in our USP as a global hub, good for our public servioces and good for our tax revenues and a lifeline for our great Universities. At same time, businesses need to recruit locally, bring on apprentices and be rooted in community.

  • rate this
    +10

    Comment number 1128.

    My personal belief is that our current batch of politicians from the 3 main parties are lying b-------- and will say anything to keep in power and get our votes. whilst in reality not caring on iota about us or what we feel !
    I feel we need to get rid of the current parties by any means & get politicians who represent our views and desires

  • rate this
    +10

    Comment number 1127.

    #1122 well you havnt been around the se of england or aberdeen or the latvian dossers drinking cans in peterhead town centre..thats the trouble with the uk the politicians and middle classes are so out of touch...just look around the place is crawling with immigrants...

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1126.

    1117.politicsofenvy
    "If it looks like a duck.."

    And if you wish to debate, stay on topic and stop being aggressive.
    =
    I am trying to stay on topic; you're the one talking about guns for some reason…
    And you're calling me "aggressive?" Ha! I apologise if I am, but at least you got my name right (for once), but still insult me above (duck etc).

  • rate this
    +6

    Comment number 1125.

    1106.Henry Hazlitt
    "Immigration does not lower wages." I disgaree, I havea general builder friend who charged £120 a day+materials. He is being undercut by migrants and dropped his salary to £100, he has now changed jobs. I have a friend who was a plasterer, same problem. The same for a guy who runs a fencing firm, a gardener and a carpenter. The difference is many migransts live 6 to a flat.

  • rate this
    +8

    Comment number 1124.

    Thought this would happen. THe moment unemployment started dropping big business would start panicking that there won't be enough docile cheap labour to go around. Knee-jerk solution, more immigration.

  • rate this
    +10

    Comment number 1123.

    Our target should be zero immigration and persuading, preferably peacefully, foreigners to go home. I'm not going to vote UKIP anymore, I need to vote 2 steps right of the Tories and go BNP.

  • rate this
    -3

    Comment number 1122.

    1116.musictechguy.

    The Tories need to grow some and tackle the biggest problem this country has ever faced: horrendous overcrowding due to excessive immigration.

    ---

    Where exactly in the UK is this 'horrendous overcrowding'?

    I travel widely all over this island & the only time I've ever had my movement impeded by 'horrendous crowds' has bee at football matches & music festivals.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1121.

    //Tanglewood
    Would it be a problem 100% of new mothers are not "foreign born"? /..

    Yelling 'racist' was never a good idea, and it certainly doesn't work now, in shutting down debate.

    Immigration and multiculty supporters are not shy in using race to support their arguments, so they can't criticise others for using it to demolish them.

    The racism is in your dual standards.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1120.

    This sort of attitude confirms how politicians have felt for the past 40 years. They don't care who comes here or the effect it has on the existing population.

    There isn't enough housing to meet demand. So house prices are sky-high. Thousands of people are unemployed because outsiders come and take the available jobs. It's high time the politicians woke up to the need to limit immigration.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1119.

    1092. Dominic - Makes for an interesting read, however I don't think it's findings quell the debate on immigration.
    What I do live with though are the effects of mass immigration around me daily and that's something no skewed paper or report can manipulate to their own political cause.

  • rate this
    +6

    Comment number 1118.

    1089. Alaric the Visigoth said:-
    ' ..... Change is a fact of life.'

    Indeed - but there is more than one form of change!
    Beneficial change, as in constructive progress and,
    Detrimental change, as in becoming a minority in one's own country.

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1117.

    1086.Henry Hazlitt
    ----
    "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.'

    And if you wish to debate, stay on topic and stop being aggressive.

    Ideology is a mask used to disguise the true intentions of politicians pursuing an agenda, like immigration, that they know the public won't like.

  • rate this
    +8

    Comment number 1116.

    .

    The Tories need to grow some and tackle the biggest problem this country has ever faced: horrendous overcrowding due to excessive immigration.

    .

  • rate this
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    Comment number 1115.

    1104.Brucey - Look at France, just this week the extremely racist Front National made humongous gains in local elections - winning some outright. Scary times and all self made by ignorant politicians.



    History tells us that in hard economic times people want a scapegoat & politicians giving easy answers to complicated problems appeal to the 'finger pointers'.

  • rate this
    +3

    Comment number 1114.

    1070. bored23

    The increase in UK population over the past decade almost mirrors the increase in net migration, c240,000 per annum. The reproduction rate has been static over this period.

  • rate this
    +6

    Comment number 1113.

    When it comes to Eastern Europeans coming here for a better standard of life;Wouldn't it make more sense for the EU to help these countries get on their feet,which they're never going to do if their young people keep leaving.

  • rate this
    -9

    Comment number 1112.

    #1093: "We have a baby boom going on, but according to the latest figures nearly a quarter of new mothers are foreign born"

    Is the issue population growth? Would it be a problem 100% of new mothers are not "foreign born"? The fact that you raise people's nationality at all shows that you think of society as being split into different groups based on their origin - what is that if not racist?

 

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