Scottish independence: John Swinney rejects EU reapplication reports

EU flag The Scottish government believes an independent Scotland would remain in the EU

The Scottish government has insisted an independent Scotland would remain in the EU, despite reports suggesting the country would have to reapply.

Finance Secretary John Swinney told the BBC membership was not in question, but negotiations on detail would be needed.

He spoke after a report in The Scotsman newspaper said the European Commission had confirmed in a letter that a go-alone Scotland would have to reapply.

A referendum on Scottish independence is scheduled for the autumn of 2014.

The European Commission has yet to confirm the details of the letter, which is due to be sent to the House of Lords economic affairs sub committee.

Mr Swinney told BBC Radio Scotland's Good Morning Scotland programme: "When Scotland votes in the referendum in 2014, and assuming there is a yes vote as a result of that referendum, Scotland will still be at that stage a part of the UK, and what we have always accepted is there has to be a negotiation about the details and the terms of Scotland's membership of the EU.

"But crucially that would be taking place at a time when we are still part of the UK, and still part of the EU of which we have been members for 40 years."

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He added that there was an important distinction between Scotland "applying" and "negotiating".

Mr Swinney said it was clear that after becoming independent the country would be negotiating "from within".

The minister believed that any talks on agreeing new terms of membership would be completed by 2016.

But Scottish Secretary Michael Moore believed an independent Scotland would lack clout over EU membership negotiations.

He said: "John Swinney said today that Scotland would have to negotiate the details and terms of Scotland's EU membership. What we really need to know is how they will sort out the Schengen agreement?

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"How will they negotiate an opt-out from the Euro? No new member state has joined since 2005 without a clear commitment to join. The Scottish Government cannot wish these problems away."

Lords on the economic sub committee are currently looking at the issue of independence and what impact it would have on Scotland and the rest of the UK.

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The commission has been very clear that we do not comment on specific situations, but can only give a view in general”

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They wrote to the European Commission asking for guidance on what would happen to an independent Scotland's future membership of the EU.

The BBC understands a reply exists and will be sent within the next week.

A spokesman for President Jose Manuel Barroso said: "President Barroso has been invited to contribute to the House of Lords inquiry on the implications of the economic implications for the United Kingdom of Scottish independence. The president has not yet replied.

"The commission position is well known and set out in the series of responses given to European parliamentary questions. The commission has been very clear that we do not comment on specific situations, but can only give a view in general."

The BBC's Europe editor Gavin Hewitt said: "The EU's position is that a nation becoming an independent state would have to re-apply for EU membership.

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They [SNP government] acknowledge, Scotland would have to negotiate terms. But they insist such a negotiation would be amicable. Which is where, for now, the issue rests”

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"There would be a negotiation which would only start when it was clear what the relationship was between Scotland and London."

The Scotsman writes that it has seen the letter and it says: "If a territory of a member state ceases to be part of that member state because it has become an independent state then the treaties would cease to apply to that territory."

It adds that the correspondence goes on to say that on independence, Scotland would become "a third country" - a technical term for a European state outside the EU which would need to apply to join the 27-member organisation.

Labour peer Lord George Foulkes told the newspaper: "I understand [the President of the European Commission] Jose Manuel Barroso will be replying to the economic affairs sub committee on the economic impact of separation and we have had evidence here in Brussels confirming Scotland would have to seek accession to the European Union."

A spokesman for Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said the Scottish government was going to write to the European Commission expressing its concerns about the events surrounding the letter which has not yet been sent.

He added: "Serious questions now need to be asked as to where these claims came from and what role members of the House of Lords Committee and the UK political parties played in this fabricated story.

"This incident shows that these Westminster committees and their inquiries are simply anti-independence propaganda tools, and are not seriously considering the opportunities of independence.

"The Scottish government will be writing to the European Commission making clear our serious concerns about this incident."


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    Comment number 226.

    I don't like London's politics and I don't like EU's politics. They are bullies and don't care about democracy. We have one of the largest GDP per capita in the EU if you include offshore assets yet we don't look or feel wealthy. I am sick of these people using us and bleeding us dry. Let us manage our own resources instead of London wasting it all.

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    Comment number 185.

    Let's be clear about this.

    A newly independent Scotland would hold ALL the cards in any signing negotiations between Edinburgh and Brussels.

    It is simply inconceivable that the EU would wish to block entry for a wealthy AAA rated, resource rich country like Scotland whilst actively encouraging other small countries such as the former Eastern European countries to join.

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    Comment number 174.

    Sovereign statehood is a prerequisite for EU membership.

    Constitutional niceties governing a member-state's composition are internal matters. If a component part secedes that creates a new state. It has no bearing on the continued existence of the sovereign member-state's Treaty of the EU.

    The SNP is as usual playing the smart-Ale(x). Can't have your cake and eat it!

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    Comment number 47.

    This is all if's, but's and maybe's. The EU needs to address this question now. I think a more important question is why Scotland would want to be in the EU at all, these days its looking less and less attractive as an option. Perhaps joining the EFTA with rump UK (England and Wales) would be better?

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    Comment number 46.

    According to another report in the Scotsman, the EU would treat Scotland and the rump-UK equally as successor states. Both would continue as EU members, but would have to renegotiate their terms of membership.
    Any othert viewpoint makes it an unequal union!


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