Sunday football as it happened

Live text commentary as Liverpool and Newcastle draw after QPR are held by Reading in the Premier League, plus FA Cup action.

4 November 2012 Last updated at 19:01 GMT

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  1. 1901: 

    That is it for this live text commentary. You can read all reports and reaction on the website. Match of the Day 2 is on BBC1 at 22:25 GMT. Tom Rostance will be in the chair tomorrow for West Brom v Southampton. I'll see thee.

  2. 1900:  
    MOTD's Conor McNamara at Anfield:Liverpool 1-1 Newcastle

    "The game finishes level after serving up two unique goals. Alan Pardew's side went in front through Yohan Cabaye's wonder strike and then a breakaway piece of brilliance from Luis Suarez levelled matters."

  3. 1900:  
    MOTD's Simon Brotherton at Loftus Road:QPR 1-1 Reading

    "There were some boos around Loftus Road from the home fans at half-time and Reading were deservedly ahead. But QPR were sharper and brighter and much more competitive after the break and had the chances to take all the points."

  4. 1856: 

    In the draw for the FA Cup second round, ties include Hastings United facing an away trip to fellow non-League side Harrogate Town, Guiseley or Barrow hosting Macclesfield, giant-killers Chelmsford travelling to Crawley and Hereford making the short trip to Cheltenham. MK Dons will meet AFC Wimbledon if the pair beat Cambridge City and York respectively in their replays. The full draw is available to view on this website.

  5. 1852: 

    In the FA Cup first round today, we lost two matches to rain as waterlogged pitches at Gloucester and Braintree halved the number of ties played today. There was plenty of entertainment in the two ties we did have, though, as Burton drew 3-3 with Altrincham before Dorchester claimed a memorable win over Plymouth.

  6. 1849: 

    The result means Newcastle have ended a run of seven consecutive league defeats at Anfield. Liverpool extend their unbeaten run against teams from the North East to 42 league games but the Reds will now definitely end 2012 with their least number of Premier League wins in a calendar year.

  7. 1845: 

    It will still be fresh in your mind, but the second Premier League game today also ended in a 1-1 draw that saw a home side come from behind to gain a point. Newcastle took a battering early on at Anfield but went ahead through Yohan Cabaye's superb finish before Luis Suarez pulled out a different but equally brilliant finish to equalise for Liverpool. Fabricio Coloccini was sent off for a lunge in Suarez late on but Newcastle held on.

  8. 1844: 

    Dorchester boss Phil Simkin on ESPN: "I'm absolutely delighted. I just didn't want us to embarrass ourselves. I wanted the players to show they could play a little bit. I think they did that."

  9. 1840: 

    When that first win does come for QPR, boss Hughes believes they will be a different side. "The key is the first win and once we get that we can settle down and play our football," Hughes said. "We're in situation nobody anticipated, but we are working exceptionally hard. We need to get maximum points on the board. The longer it goes on, the more irritating it becomes. We have potential in this team but need a bit of time for it to come together. When it does we will play some good stuff here and people will enjoy watching us. But at the moment it is a bit of struggle."

  10. 1837: 

    For the record, the longest a club has gone without a win from the start of a Premier League season was Swindon Town, who failed to win in their first 15 top-flight matches in 1993-94. They finished that season bottom and were relegated. Somehow I can't imagine QPR boss Mark Hughes surviving beyond another five games if his side fail to win any of them.

  11. 1833: 

    To recap from earlier... in the Premier League QPR and Reading drew 1-1 with Djibril Cisse equalising Kaspars Gorkss' opener from the Royals. The result means both side's are still without a win this season from 10 and nine games respectively.

  12.   
    Robbie Savage, BBC Sport

    "MOTD2 tonight Liverpool v Newcastle, two great goals, a definite red card then QPR v Reading. Disciplined away performance by Reading, 10:25 BBC1"

  13. 1830: 

    Dorchester matchwinner Jake Gosling, who is on loan from Exeter, on ESPN: "I'm buzzing for the boys. I can't wait for the next round. I'm not bothered who we play - we've shown we can beat anyone. Onwards and upwards."

  14. 1828: 
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    The celebrations at Dorchester continue as the club revels in its first ever win over League opposition. The sign above the home dressing room reads 'Fortune favours the brave'. They've certainly been brave today.

  15. 1823: 
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    Game over at Dorchester, where the Blue Square South side have pulled off a famous victory over League Two Plymouth. The players, staff and fans are going mad.

  16. 1823: 

    Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers: "We were outstanding. Our possession and intensity was relentless. We went to sleep for the goal but I thought we deserved the three points. I told the players to stay calm and play how we were doing. We just couldn't finish off the many chances we had. I am sure our draws will turn into wins. Suarez's goal was brilliant and he has been fantastic. His first touch from that height, and touch was an incredible piece of skill and he is a world class striker. Most people in football know he is a threat, he plays the false nine role like [Lionel] Messi does at Barcelona. He will be disappointed we did not win."

  17. 1820: 
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    Four minutes of added time in the day's last remaining FA Cup first-round tie. Dorchester still lead 1-0 against League Two Plymouth.

  18.  

    Luther, via text: "Re Chris the Red (18:07). I assume Pardew was upset with Sterling's red card challenge on Cisse which he did not receive a yellow for. I suppose 17-year-old England prospects are immune from red cards and media scrutiny though."

  19. 1817: 

    Want to see a load of fans getting drenched by a sprinkler? You're in luck. You can watch it via a video on this website.*

    *No Liverpool supporters were harmed in the filming of this clip. I think.

  20. 1815: 
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    The cramp has taken its toll on Beckham impersonator Jamie Gleeson, who has gone off with five minutes to go. Dorchester still lead 1-0 with 10-man Plymouth desperately looking for a way to force a replay.

  21.  

    Stoke's former Liverpool and Newcastle striker Michael Owen on Twitter: "Not having Coloccini's red card at all. He didn't touch him and to say there was intent is laughable. Let me tell you, he kicks a moving ball a thousand times a day and doesn't miss it once. If he wanted to connect with a standing leg then he wouldn't have missed. He pulls out at the last minute and doesn't touch him. Not having that's a red at all."

  22. 1813: 
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    Dorchester's Jamie Gleeson is on the turf getting treatment for cramp. He has run himself into the ground for his side against Plymouth this afternoon. A bit like David Beckham against Greece.

  23. 1811: 
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    We're edging closer to another 'cupset' as Dorchester still lead 1-0 against League Two visitors Plymouth. It's lashing down with rain as we enter the final 10 minutes - but the Conference South side hope their defence will remain watertight.

  24. 1810: 

    Newcastle boss Alan Pardew: "We looked comfortable at 1-0 and lacked concentration for their goal. It changed proceedings and it has been a bad day for us. We lost three players to injury and our captain for potentially three games. We looked to keep hitting them on the break, but they are clever and Suarez is a great player. He was causing us problems and if we could have wrapped him up, we would have won the game. It has been a tough day for us. The sending off doesn't look too clever, Coloccini tries stopping himself to some extent and there not too much intent there. The lineman has gave it, and we have to accept that. The referee got caught up in the occasion and I wanted to ask him about sending off. The morale of referees must be low after constant criticism and some of the issues around them are unfair."

  25. 1807: 

    Liverpool move up a place as a result of their point, rising to 12th with 11 points from their 10 games. Newcastle are two places and three points better off. No prizes for guessing who will be happier to leave Anfield with a draw today.

  26.  

    Martin Warren on Twitter: "Would rather lose and not have Coloccini suspended. Three games without our best player is a disaster."

    Dominic Walker on Twitter: "Liverpool are screaming out for some like Chicharito. Someone who knows where the net is."

  27.  

    Chris the Red, via text: "Alan Pardew's going to feel more than a little foolish when he sees the replay. Not much contact but clear intent. Blatant red."

  28.  

    Sam Gillies on Twitter: "Bobby Moore wouldn't have done that, Coloccini."

    Rob Bown on Twitter: "Show of hands, how many Liverpool fans miss the days of Rafa and Torres now?"

  29. 1757: 

    Newcastle ultimately had to do it the hard way after Fabricio Coloccini's sending off left them with 10 men for the last 15 or so minutes. But they will be pleased to come away with a point and end a run of seven consecutive defeats at Anfield. Yohan Cabaye is the first United player to score at at this ground since Patrick Kluivert in 2004.

  30. 1755:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "Liverpool will feel they should have won this game. Could have won it, should have won it. If they had a finisher they would probably have won this game comfortably."

  31. 1755: 

    So, Liverpool will definitely end 2012 with their lowest number of Premier League wins in a calendar year as they now cannot beat the eight they managed in 2003. With the number of chances they had today, they should probably have won, but then if you don't take your opportunities what do you expect?

  32. 1753: 

    Alan Pardew is not a happy man. He has come straight on to the pitch to have some strong words with referee Anthony Taylor, which I think we can be pretty sure are about the red card given to Fabricio Coloccini.

  33. 1752: 
    FULL-TIME- Liverpool 1-1 Newcastle
  34.  

    Sean Sonnekus on Twitter: "Shelvey couldn't finish a pork pie. How does he even play for a Premier League side?"

  35. 1752: 
    HITS THE WOODWORK

    Luis Suarez delivers it and it deflects off the wall before floating over Jonjo Shelvey's head and bouncing onto the top of the bar and over. It is a corner, but Liverpool are unable to use it to forge anything productive. That could well be that.

  36. 1751: 

    Newcastle have managed to eat into three of the four added minutes. But Liverpool have a free-kick that they can deliver into the box from the right...

  37. 1748: 

    Another chance for Jonjo Shelvey as he meets Stewart Downing's cross in the box but his downward header is saved by Tim Krul. Four minutes will be added to the end of this game. It is going to be all taken up by Liverpool pressing for the winner.

  38.  

    Nic Wirtz on Twitter: "What was the difference between Coloccini's challenge and Sterling's over the top one earlier in the game on Cissé?"

    Richard Barter on Twitter: Even though he doesn't get a lot of contact, if any. It's the timing and intent of the tackle."

    Phil Vieira on Twitter: "Absolutely DISGUSTING from Coloccini. He 100% meant that."

  39. 1746: 

    Big chance for Jonjo Shelvey at the back post. Steven Gerrard floats over a free-kick from the right which is met by Shelvey first-time but his shot is saved by Tim Krul. Less than two minutes of normal time left.

  40. 1745: 

    Liverpool calling for a penalty as Raheem Sterling falls in attempting to volley Jonjo Shelvey's cross with a Newcastle defender challenging. The referee awards a corner, though, which Newcastle clear.

  41. 1743:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "When you see the replay of Coloccini's challenge, it's clear the referee has no option but to show the red card."

  42. 1743: 
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    GOAL! Dorchester take the lead through teenager Jake Gosling, on-loan from Plymouth's rivals Exeter City, as he stabs home a finish from close range. The home fans are sent into raptures. Two minutes after scoring, he still has a massive grin on his face. I think he enjoyed that one.

  43. 1742:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "I think Suarez has had an excellent game. He's playing on his own most of the time, making himself available and of course scoring that wonderful goal."

  44. 1741: 
    RED CARD- Newcastle's Fabricio Coloccini

    At first the straight red card appears to come from nowhere, but replays show that Fabricio Coloccini made a clear attempt to stamp down on Luis Suarez's leg long after the ball had gone. Newcastle will have to survive the last six minutes without their most experienced defender.

  45. 1741: 

    Newcastle are nearly caught out again by a long ball forward but Fabricio Coloccini improvises with a diving header to clear.

  46. 1740: 

    Luis Suarez is nearly given a chance to put Liverpool ahead as Jose Enrique's cross from the left drifts an inch over the head of the unmarked striker in the box. Seven minutes to go.

  47.  

    Ridhwaan Abdul Aziz on Twitter: "It's just written in the stars for a Stevie G piledriver to win this game."

  48.  

    Paul, Formby, via text: "Re Liverpool's goal. A lot of people not understanding the difference between a long ball and a long pass..."

  49. 1737: 

    Liverpool have been so committed to attack they leave themselves open to a counter-attack, which sees Hatem Ben Arfa charge down the left and cut inside before firing a low shot that Brad Jones drops to smother.

  50. 1736: 

    Newcastle are retreating futher and further back as Liverpool push forward. The Reds have another corner which Papiss Cisse heads away.

  51.  

    Yousif, via text: "Suarez is one league goal behind Van Persie. Who says he isn't a finisher?"

  52. 1735:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "Sterling has been played in but took far too long to get his shot in. He should have scored."

  53. 1735: 

    That is a great chance for Raheem Sterling to give Liverpool the lead. He overlaps as Luis Suarez comes forward and is given a clear sight of goal from an angle on the right following the Uruguayan's pass but Steven Taylor slides across to block.

  54. 1732: 
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    Liverpool look to change things up in search of a winner as Stewart Downing comes on for Nuri Sahin

  55. 1732: 

    Luis Suarez has now scored five goals in his last five Premier League appearances. He has 10 goals this season.

  56.   
    Gary Lineker, BBC Sport

    "Oh I say! He may be an irritating sod at times but boy can Suarez play!"

  57.  

    Khoyrul, London, via text: "What was Gerrard saying about Everton's long ball tactics?"

  58. 1730: 

    Newcastle have a chance to restore their lead from a centrally-placed free-kick from 25 yards but Haten Ben Arfa curls his effort wide. Don't worry Hatem, at least your hands are warm now.

  59.  

    Somebody on Twitter: "Take that all you Suarezophobiacs! How I laughed watching that replay!"

    David Gale on Twitter: "A moment of brilliance. That is why Suarez is a world class player."

    Steve Tiu on Twitter: "Finally. A Liverpool goal. Held my breath for a few seconds there until its not ruled out."

  60. 1729: 
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    Half time at The Avenue Stadium; Dorchester 0-0 Plymouth. The only talking point has been Conor Hourihane's sending off for Plymouth. The second yellow card he received was for taking a free-kick too early as the referee was not ready. Harsh. Not been a classic otherwise.

  61. 1728: 

    Oh, how are Liverpool not ahead?! The momentum is fully behind them now and they almost capitalise as Luis Suarez cuts down the byline on the rigth and lays it on a plate for Jonjo Shelvey (just on as a substitute for Suso) but with a near open goal he falls back and can only poke the ball into the arms of Tim Krul from eight yards. It is fair to say, he should have buried that.

  62. 1726:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "Fantastic strike from Suarez. It was a long ball and he just took it down like there was no problem. It was good pass from Enrique - it wasn't a whack - but it was still difficult to control. A first-class strike."

  63. 1724: 
    GOAL- Liverpool 1-1 Newcastle - Luis Suarez (67 mins)

    Liverpool are level and it is courtesy of a sublime piece of control and skill from Luis Suarez. Jonas Gutierrez gives the ball away to Jose Enrique, who punts a long ball into the Newcastle box. Suarez is under it and ahead of the away defence but it still requires a supreme piece of control to bring the ball down on his chest and then round Tim Krul before finishing.

  64.  

    Aled Thomas on Twitter: "Newcastle have parked their black and white bus."

  65. 1723: 

    Newcastle have their second corner in contentious circumstances as the last touch appeared to be off Sammy Ameobi. Controversy is averted, though, when the corner comes to nothing.

  66. 1722: 

    We are into the final half-hour of the game. Newcastle lead 1-0. And they have a free-kick wide right after Jose Enrique's foul on Papiss Cisse. Yohan Cabaye swings over the cross and Enrique puts the ball behind for United's first corner of the game. It comes to nothing, though, as Nuri Sahin heads clear.

  67. 1722:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "The substitutes are warming up now - the first one to get up was Liverpool's Jonjo Shelvey. It's getting to the time now where both teams will be looking to make substitutions."

  68.  

    Ashvin Smith on Twitter: "Liverpool needs to send Fowler and Collymore on the pitch."

  69. 1720: 

    Newcastle fans are screaming for a penalty as Sammy Ameobi drives into the box and is felled by a tackle from Martin Skrtel. The referee isn't interested, though. It could well be that Ameobi's fall was caused by him treading on the ball.

  70. 1719: 
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    Half-time at The Avenue Stadium; Dorchester 0-0 Plymouth. The only talking point has been Conor Hourihane's sending off for Plymouth. The second yellow card he received was for taking a free-kick too early as the referee was not ready. Harsh. Not been a classic otherwise.

  71. 1717: 

    Nuri Sahin goes close for the home side with a shot from inside the area on the turn that beats Tim Krul but also bobbles past the outside of the far post.

  72. 1716: 

    Liverpool are getting into decent positions to deliver into the box but are struggling to provide anything to hurt Newcastle. Jose Enrique is the lastest culprit to provide a substandard cross that the away side block. Luis Suarez shows him how it is done with a positive run and shot from the edge of the area that just misses the goal.

  73. 1712: 

    Tim Krul is strong to punch away a Steven Gerrard free-kick and is then fouled by Martin Skrtel as the ball is floated back in. The Anfield crowd don't like the decision. Home frustration is growing within the ground.

  74. 1711: 

    Raheem Sterling fells Papiss Cisse and is lucky to escape without a booking. Cisse is in pain and needs some treatment. From the free-kick, Yohan Cabaye drifts a cross into the box which is poked clear before being hammered back over the bar by Vurnon Anita.

  75. 1708: 
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    Not clever from Ashley Nicholls of Dorchester who gets booked for a challenge akin to that of Nigel de Jong in the World Cup final, catching his Plymouth opponent in the chest with his studs. Nicholls is studying at Exeter University for degree in cancer biology, and he is sure to get some stick from his fellow classmates for that challenge tomorrow morning. 10 minutes left in the first half, still 0-0.

  76. 1708:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "I'm always interested in what has been said in the two dressing rooms at half-time. Sometimes the early stages of the second half can give you an idea. Liverpool are dominating like they did in the first 10 minutes."

  77. 1707: 
    SUBSTITUTION

    Newcastle are forced into a change as Demba Ba looks to have picked up a knock and leaves to be replaced by Sammy Ameobi. Hatem Ben Arfa nabs Ba's gloves off him before he leaves. You'd have thought they could afford more than one pair between them.

  78. 1707: 

    Steven Gerrard refuses to give up when a shortly-taken Liverpool corner breaks down but as he looks to drive into the box he is tackled as Newcastle clear.

  79.  

    Joe, Liverpool, via text: "Anfield once used to be the ground everyone used to hate come to, now it's a place where every team can get a point."

  80. 1705: 

    Luis Suarez wins his side a corner as Liverpool make a positive start to the second half. Suso delivers but Demba Ba wins another header in his own box to clear. He has done a sterling job in defence the big striker.

  81.  

    Ryan Craven on Twitter: "Same old, same old for Liverpool. They've lacked a cutting edge ever since selling Torres."

    Jamie Barker on Twitter: "Pass me a violin Liverpool fans, you send one striker out on loan and the other can't stay on his feet."

  82. 1702: 
    KICK-OFF - SECOND HALF- Liverpool 0-1 Newcastle
  83. 1702: 

    There are some very wet Liverpool fans at Anfield courtesy of a sprinkler that has gone rogue and sprayed them all. One bloke looks distinctly unimpressed as he stands with his arms raised to anyone who is willing to pay attention.

  84.  

    Sulaiman, London, via text: "Anyone else notice that the foul throw by Wisdom played a big part in the goal. Liverpool slacking at the back, something needs to change."

  85. 1659:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "When you have the possession of the ball that Liverpool had - particularly in the first 10 minutes - and don't have any shots, then go 1-0 down, you can see the confidence almost go out of the players. It is so obvious, but no matter how much possession you have, you have got to have an end product."

  86.  

    Tom, Stoke, via text: "Liverpool need Andy Carroll, they have little, if not any aerial threat."

  87. 1656: 
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    Oh dear. Such a shame for Altrincham fans that they are unable to hold on as Calvin Zola scores for Burton Albion in injury time to force a replay. It has been a cracking FA Cup tie though, which finishes 3-3. Still 0-0 between Dorchester and Plymouth, 25 minutes gone in that match.

  88. 1653:  
    MOTD's Conor McNamara at Anfield:Liverpool 0-1 Newcastle

    "Liverpool dominated the opening period in terms of possession and chances but Newcastle are in front. Reds boss Brendan Rodgers will not believe that his team will be heading towards the dressing room behind. Newcastle defended staunchly and got a goal to remember from Yohan Cabaye."

  89.  

    Kieran Milward on Twitter: "That's the only bit of quality in this match so far. Great finish from Cabaye. Really dull otherwise."

    Susil Pallikadavath on Twitter: "Dominate games, get no decisions our way then concede. Life of a Liverpool fan right now."

    Sophie Gayter on Twitter: "That half sums up Liverpool's season. Loads of good play but no clear cut chances, and vulnerable at the back."

  90. 1651: 

    Liverpool may have a superb home record against Newcastle in the Premier League but their home form in general this year is very, very poor. Basically, if they don't win all their remaining five home games in 2012 (this game included) they will finish the year with their lowest tally of Premier League home wins - less than the eight they managed in 2003.

  91. 1648: 
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    Would you believe it! Just when Burton Albion had the momentum, it swings Altrincham's way as Damien McCrory's own goal puts the non-league side in the lead again. Five minutes remaining at the Pirelli Stadium.

  92. 1648: 
    HALF-TIME- Liverpool 0-1 Newcastle
  93. 1648: 

    Liverpool almost get themselves into bother on the edge of the box as Joe Allen and Steven Gerrard dwell on a clearance which allows Steven Taylor to get a shot in. Fortunately for the home side, the effort lacks precision and flies wide.

  94.  

    Anthony, County Durham, via text: "Liverpool get what they deserve. How can they expect to score when they don't put anyone in the box."

  95. 1646:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "It was a great run by Ben Arfa. When that boy is in possession of the ball and running, he goes past people like they are not there. And Cabaye's strike was absolutely first class. We will see what effect it has on these Liverpool players."

  96. 1646: 

    We are into injury time at Anfield - 30 seconds into an allotted two minutes to be precise. The home fans have been silenced by that Newcastle goal.

  97. 1643: 
    GOAL- Liverpool 0-1 Newcastle - Yohan Cabaye (43 mins)

    That is cracking goal for Newcastle. Hatem Ben Arfa creates it with a brilliant run down the right and when his cross reaches Yohan Cabaye on the opposite side he makes no mistake with a superb strike that finds the far corner of the net. How Liverpool will be regretting wasting all those early chances now.

  98. 1642: 
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    The comeback is complete. Burton Albion are level against Altrincham, and it's Zander Diamond again, 2-2 at the Pirelli Stadium. And it has started with a bang at The Avenue Stadium as Plymouth's Conor Hourihane has been dismissed for a second bookable offence just nine minutes into that match against Dorchester.

  99. 1641: 

    Suso cuts into the box and earns Liverpool a corner with a deflected shot. Demba Ba heads away the delivery before Suso volleys a shot over the bar from outside the box.

  100. 1641: 

    Luis Suarez has another opening in the box down the right. Again he shows no sign of doing anything but shooting but blasts his effort from a tight angle across goal and wide.

  101.  

    Nic Chambers on Twitter: "Jose Enrique couldn't cross a road let alone a football."

  102. 1640: 

    It is a really good contest this game. Both teams are working extremely hard for the upper hand. Steven Gerrard has a pop from just inside his own half from a free-kick that has Tim Krul briefly worried before the ball drifts over the bar.

  103.  

    Reading defender Sean Morrison on Twitter: "Buzzing to have made my Premiership debut!! Thank you for all the messages!"

  104. 1636: 
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    The last game of the weekend is under way at The Avenue Stadium where Dorchester are entertaining Plymouth in the FA Cup first round. 70 minutes gone in the tie between Burton Albion and Altrincham, still 2-1 to the visitors.

  105. 1635: 

    Luis Suarez has options but goes it alone as he charges towards and into the Newcastle box. He cuts to his right before attempting a shot that deflects off a Newcastle defender and safely into the arms of Tim Krul.

  106.  

    Matt, Northampton, via text: "Re Chris from Hull. The reason Joe Allen never gives the ball away is because all he does is pass sideways, massively overrated."

  107. 1633: 

    The game is a lot more even now after the one-way traffic in Liverpool's favour during the first 15 minutes. Newcastle aren't creating much in terms of goalscoring chances but they are certainly looking less porous down the other end.

  108. 1630: 

    Newcastle have a free-kick 40 yards from goal. Steven Taylor creeps in unmarked down the right to head across goal from the delivery but he is adjudged to be offside.

  109. 1629: 

    Steven Gerrard and Luis Suarez link up as the latter dinks in a cross for the former to head into the arms of Tim Krul. It was a good leap by the striker but his header lacked power.

  110. 1628: 

    Danny Simpson has slotted in at right-back for Newcastle with Vurnon Anita moving into the midfield slot vacated by James Perch.

  111.  

    Jamie Hardesty on Twitter: "Newcastle visibly missing Tiote's industry and combative break up play in the middle. Jonas, Cabs and Perch working hard mind."

  112. 1627: 
    SUBSTITUTION

    James Perch can't continue. Danny Simpson is on for him. That is probably going to need a Newcastle tactical reshuffle.

  113. 1625: 

    James Perch trots gingerly back onto the pitch. He is going to try and play on but looking at the way he is moving he may well not last long.

  114. 1624:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "I have to talk about Luis Suarez, because we have all got opinions about him. When the boy is playing, there is no doubt, he is a very good player. He is very dangerous to the opposition and we have seen glimpses of that already this afternoon."

  115. 1624: 

    This doesn't look good for Newcastle. James Perch, who is filling in for the suspended Cheick Tiote in midfield, is down and looks to be struggling.

  116.  

    King of the Skis on Twitter: "Re Sam - Refs should not take reputation into account. They should be completely objective. Any other striker and that's a pen."

  117. 1623: 

    Liverpool force another corner but Demba Ba rises well to beat Andre Wisdom in the air at the near post and head clear. Soon after, Joe Allen has half a chance with a shot from the edge of the area but puts his effort wide.

  118. 1622: 

    Liverpool rampage forward as Nuri Sahin's pass releases Luis Suarez down the right but his shot from an angle in the box is blocked by the feet of Tim Krul. Suarez had support in the box but you could see he never had any intention of using it.

  119. 1620:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "The possession of Liverpool and their movement has been excellent. But when it comes to shots, they have hardly had any."

  120.  

    Chris, Hull, via text: "Just saw Joe Allen give the ball away. A bit like seeing Paul Scholes execute a perfect tackle."

  121. 1620: 

    Luis Suarez is fouled this time as James Perch, fresh from a strong tackle on Nuri Sahin, dives in on the striker to give the home side a free-kick near the edge of the area. Suarez hits the free-kick but is just too high with his shot, which misses the goal by a yard.

  122.  

    Sam Walsh on Twitter: "Re Paddy. The reason Suarez doesn't get as many penalties as he should is his reputation. Simple."

  123. 1617: 

    Newcastle get another look-in as a cross from the left is just too high for Papiss Cisse, who gets the top of his head to the ball but not enough to steer it goalwards from 12 yards.

  124. 1615: 
    FA CUP LATEST

    The comeback is on at the Pirelli Stadium and it is a priceless strike for the home side as Zander Diamond pulls a goal back for Burton Albion against Altrincham. 2-1 with 55 minutes gone.

  125. 1615: 

    Newcastle finally break into Liverpool territory and it results in their first effort. Demba Ba unleashes a shot from range but it rises high over the bar. Still, it is more encouraging for the visitors.

  126. 1614: 

    Newcastle have weathered the early storm somewhat and had their first real spell of possession but the home side are still looking the more positive. They are hunting in packs in midfield while Raheem Sterling, Suso and Luis Suarez are busy up front.

  127.  

    Paddy Emmerson on Twitter: "Re 1607. Another week another pen not given. It is getting beyond a joke. Clear cut pen."

  128. 1611: 

    Raheem Sterling continues the home dominance with a long-range shot that fizzes past Tim Krul's right-hand post. Newcastle haven't had a look-in yet.

  129. 1610:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at Anfield

    "This has all the makings of an excellent game. Liverpool have dominated the early stages - they are moving the ball around really well."

  130.   
    Gary Lineker, BBC Sport

    "Congratulations to Steven Gerrard. To play 600 games for your home town club is a wonderful achievement."

  131. 1608: 

    Newcastle are getting a real work-out early on at Anfield. Suso's cross from the right earns the home side a corner which Tim Krul palms behind. The second corner is headed away by Demba Ba before Krul claims Martin Skrtel's header back into the box.

  132.  

    Hugh Moxen on Twitter: "One Cisse has already scored today, will another?"

  133. 1607: 

    Replays of the Coloccini block on Suarez show the defender did catch the striker in the box. I've seen softer penalties given. Anthony Taylor was well-placed but not interested in giving a spot-kick.

  134. 1606: 

    Liverpool continue to pour forward. This time Raheem Sterling does find Luis Suarez in the box but his flick does not beat Fabricio Coloccini and the home calls for handball fall on deaf ears.

  135. 1604: 

    Liverpool have made a very positive start. Raheem Sterling drives down the left before crossing low towards Luis Suarez, but Fabricio Coloccini cuts the ball out.

  136. 1603: 

    Soon after, a foul on the left gives Steven Gerrard chance to deliver a free-kick which is swung into the box but punched clear by Tim Krul.

  137. 1602: 

    Steven Gerrard has the first effort in anger from over 35 yards but the shot is blocked before it can even reach the area, let alone Tim Krul's goal.

  138. 1600: 
    KICK-OFF- Liverpool v Newcastle (16:00 GMT)
  139.  

    Lee, Newcastle, via text: "Re Dean Kelly. About 35million?"

  140. 1559: 

    Steven Gerrard is being presented with a red liver bird statue by former team-mate Gary McAllister on the pitch at Anfield in recognition of his 600th appearance.

  141. 1557: 

    The teams are heading out on to the pitch at Anfield. We are a couple of minutes away from another whole game of Premier League football.

  142.  

    Opta Joe on Twitter: "The last Newcastle player to score a league goal at Anfield (excl. own goals) was Patrick Kluivert in 2004."

  143.  

    Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand on Twitter: "Liverpool v Newcastle.....who you going for people?? 2-2 I'm going for."

  144.  

    Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney on Twitter: "Congrats to Stevie G on 600 games. Great achievement whatever team you support.

  145. 1554: 

    Newcastle boss Alan Pardew: "We have to create some kind of history here today if we are going to win. I think we are a good side and we are coming here with ambitions of our own and we have to show that on the pitch."

  146.  

    Matt Dawson on Twitter: "Gerrard's 600th appearance today without a league title should be an example to other players, hardly any loyalty these days!"

    Dean Kelly on Twitter: "What Liverpool would give to have Newcastle's attack options at the moment."

  147. 1551: 
    FA CUP LATEST

    Half time at the Pirelli Stadium and Lee Sinnott will be delighted by his side's performance so far, as they lead 2-0 against Burton Albion. Home manager Gary Rowett needs to give a rousing team-talk at the break if his side are to get back into this match.

  148.  

    Dave, Timperley, via text: "Go on Alty! I was there in '86 when they beat Birmingham 2-1 at St Andrew's...still the only non-league team to beat top flight opposition away!"

  149. 1550: 

    Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers: "Our consistency in the league has been better in last four or five games. It's about keeping that consistency and performance level going."

  150. 1548: 

    Newcastle boss Alan Pardew will be hoping Gerrard loses his Superman cape today as the Magpies go in search of a first league win at Anfield since 1994. "It's a fixture that you can get wrapped up in a little bit. It's such an emotional start, the way they build that game up, and you can get lost in that period. Sometimes teams are beat before they get there so hopefully we will get over that this time."

  151.  

    Chris Caine on Twitter: "Altrincham have knocked out 16 league teams in the FA Cup and had famous draws against Everton and Spurs. Bring on number 17!"

  152.  

    Rob, Wakefield, via text: "Re Kieran, 1504. If Liverpool FAIL to win, they will have 10 points from 10 games and be closer to relegation than Europe. Bad start looking worse."

  153. 1545: 

    So, to recap, Newcastle have not beaten Liverpool at Anfield in the league for more than 18 years since Rob Lee and Andy Cole scored in a 2-0 victory in April 1994. The Reds have won their last seven home matches against Newcastle. Each of those wins was by at least a two-goal margin. On top of that, the Magpies have failed to win their previous eight away games in league and cup.

    However, one shred of hope for United is that Liverpool are attempting to win successive league matches at Anfield for the first time in 14 months.

  154. 1544: 

    Liverpool skipper Steven Gerrard is set to make his 600th appearance for the Reds against Newcastle and his manager Brendan Rodgers says: "You saw him the other night when we were playing Swansea and the game was flat in the first half. He dons his Superman cape, comes on and changes the whole dynamic of the game. That is what great players do and this is one of the modern greats of the game."

  155. 1542: 
    FA CUP LATEST

    Incredible! Giantkilling most definitely on the cards at the Pirelli Stadium as Altrincham go 2-0 up against Burton Albion. Nathan Stanton, the former Scunthorpe and Rochdale centre-back, is the unfortunate man as he puts through his own net. 10 minutes remaining in the first half.

  156.  

    James S A Watson on Twitter: "Today marks Steven Gerrard's 600th Liverpool appearance. Great achievement, but sadly no league titles!"

    Aleks Klosok on Twitter: "A victory at Anfield would be the perfect tonic for Newcastle to kick-start their season, leaving them a point off the Champions League places."

  157. 1540: 
    Liverpool v Newcastle (16:00 GMT)

    Liverpool make nine changes from the side knocked out of the Capital One Cup by Swansea on Wednesday as the Reds revert back to the starting line-up which drew 2-2 with Everton in their last league outing. Steven Gerrard makes his 600th appearance for the club as Luis Suarez, Raheem Sterling and Suso start as well. Keeper Pepe Reina and defender Glen Johnson are again out with hamstring injuries. Newcastle manager Alan Pardew's three changes from the win over West Brom as central defender Steven Taylor, full-back Vurnon Anita and striker Papiss Cisse replace Mike Williamson, Danny Simpson and Shola Ameobi.

  158. 1540: 
    FA CUP LATEST

    Unbelievable! League Two side Burton Albion are in a spin here as summer-signing Carl Rodgers, a DJ away from the pitch, scores for the visitors. The Altrincham party looks to be getting started.

  159.   
    Phil McNulty, BBC Sport chief football writer

    "QPR 1 Reading 1. Not ideal for either side but onus was firmly on Mark Hughes & his players to win that one so another disappointing result."

  160.  

    Jonny, dejected Hoop, Leicester, via text: "Hughes out. Rafa Benitez as his replacement."

  161. 1535: 

    Reading boss Brian McDermott: "It's a good point. We were unfortunate because at 1-0 we could have gone 2-0 up. But at 1-1 Alex McCarthy made a fantastic save from Taarabt. Our performance was a really good away-from-home performance. We will take the point and move on.

    "We were excellent at times and really dug in. This is a difficult place to come - Everton have drawn here and Chelsea have drawn here - so it's a good point."

  162. 1533: 
    FA CUP LATEST

    Half an hour gone at the Pirelli Stadium and it is still 0-0 between Burton Albion and Altrincham. Lee Sinnott's side are holding their own so far, despite being 52 places behind the home side in the football ladder.

  163.  

    Jamie Roser on Twitter: "Both teams wasteful in front of goal. Big name players not living up to reputation. Respect to McCarthy though."

    Guv on Twitter: "Will that draw be enough for Hughes, self-proclaimed managerial genius, to keep his job? Not sure. Clock must be ticking."

  164. 1531: 

    Infostrada: "QPR make their equal-worst start to a top-flight season after 10 matches, after also picking up four in the old Division One in 1968-69, their first ever season in the top flight. The club failed to win until their 13th match in that season. They finished bottom and were relegated that season.

    "With five points after nine matches, Reading also continue their worst start to a top-flight league season, five less than the 10 points they had at the same stage in 2007-08."

  165. 1528: 

    The draw at Loftus Road leaves Reading with five points from nine games, four points behind 17th-placed Aston Villa. QPR are off the bottom of the table on goal difference but with just four points from 10 matches. Any way you look at it, that is not good enough, especially when you've spent brass like Rangers have.

  166.  

    Fred, the troubled Hoop, via text: "Re 1412. Harry Redknapp has no tactical nous whatsoever, purely a motivator - not shrewd enough to cope with a bottom three side!"

  167. 1525: 
    LINE-UPS- Liverpool v Newcastle (16:00 GMT)

    Liverpool: Jones, Wisdom, Skrtel, Agger, Jose Enrique, Gerrard, Allen, Sahin, Fernandez Saez, Suarez, Sterling. Subs: Gulacsi, Assaidi, Henderson, Coates, Downing, Carragher, Shelvey.

    Newcastle: Krul, Anita, Steven Taylor, Coloccini, Santon, Perch, Cabaye, Gutierrez, Ben Arfa, Cisse, Ba. Subs: Harper, Simpson, Williamson, Shola Ameobi, Obertan, Sammy Ameobi, Ferguson.

    Referee: Anthony Taylor (Cheshire)

  168. 1523: 
    FULL-TIME- QPR 1-1 Reading

    QPR and Reading remain winless this season. It is a result that does little to help either, but will please the teams above them.

  169.  

    Tim Whatmough on Twitter: "This feels like a Championship game, which it probably will be next season."

    Josh Reynolds on Twitter: "Looks like this could be the perfect result for Saints, who have to do the business against West Brom tomorrow."

  170. 1523: 

    Another superb run from Jimmy Kebe sees him cut into the box and take out a QPR defender with a neat turn but his shot is blocked. QPR tear down the other end and Djibril Cisse is a yard from giving the home side all three points with a shot from range that deflects wide.

  171. 1522: 
    Liverpool v Newcastle (16:00 GMT)

    BREAKING: Newcastle make a late change to their substitutes' bench for the clash at Anfield. Danny Simpson replaces Gael Bigirimana.

  172. 1521: 
    YELLOW CARD

    Reading appeal for a penalty as Adam Le Fondre drops in the box under a QPR challenge. It was very theatrical, though, and the striker gets a booking for diving.

  173. 1520: 

    Down the other end, QPR pile forward and a cross from the right looks perfect for Bobby Zamora to attack. He does his best and almost gets lucky when a header from Chris Gunter deflects off him and towards goal. Fortunately for Reading, the ball drops into Alex McCarthy's hands.

  174. 1518: 

    Anton Ferdinand is forced to go off and so cannot defend a long throw, which is headed on and the nodded towards goal by Hal Robson-Kanu. It falls straight into Julio Cesar's arms, though.

  175.  

    Dominic O'Caolla on Twitter: "Time for an Adam Le Fondre 93rd minute winner. Dead cert."

  176. 1517: 

    Sean Morrison and Anton Ferdinand clash heads in the QPR box and the latter is felled as the board is held up showing five minutes of added time.

  177. 1515: 

    QPR have a corner with a minute and a half to go. Reading clear but the ball falls to Samba Diakite. However, his shot from range is blocked by a Reading body.

  178. 1514: 
    SUBSTITUTION

    Reading still looking to win this game. Adam Le Fondre replaces Jason Roberts in attack.

  179. 1513: 

    The game is into the last five minutes at Loftus Road. Reading come forward but Mikele Leigertwood's shot from the edge of the box swings wide of the post.

  180.  

    Talking Sport on Twitter: "Adam Federici can get a cushion for his bench, because Alex McCarthy makes another world class save. New number one."

  181. 1512: 

    QPR continue to push forward but Adel Taarabt won't want to see that again as his shot from an angle on the right is dragged so wide it goes out for a throw-in.

  182. 1509: 
    GREAT SAVE!

    Oh my word, what a save that is from Alex McCarthy! QPR break away as Bobby Zamora puts Djibril Cisse through before he lays it on a plate for Adel Taarabt, who is 10 yards out with just McCarthy to beat. The keeper pulls out a stunning block, though, to push the ball past the post. If Reading get a result here they have him to thank.

  183. 1508: 
    SUBSTITUTION

    QPR twist in attack with Bobby Zamora on for Jamie Mackie.

  184. 1508: 

    Reading continue to threaten at corners. Thsi time it is recent substitute Hal Robson-Kanu (on for Jobi McAnuff) who rises to head Nicky Shorey's delivery over the bar.

  185. 1506: 
    FA CUP LATEST

    With two ties going down due to waterlogged pitches, Burton Albion v Altrincham is the only 15:00 GMT kick off. It is currently 0-0 in that tie. Hopefully, Dorchester v Plymouth goes ahead as scheduled at 16:30.

  186. 1506: 

    Another Esteban Granero free-kick from 20 yards. Again, the midfielder swings the effort over the wall but also over the bar. 10 minutes to go at Loftus Road for either side to find a precious winner.

  187.  

    Kieran, via text: "If Liverpool win, they are four points behind Champions League places and suddenly the bad start doesn't look that bad."

  188. 1504: 
    Liverpool v Newcastle (16:00 GMT)

    BREAKING: Liverpool go back to the team that drew against Everton last week. Luis Suarez and Raheem Sterling start while Steven Gerrard makes his 600th Reds appearance.

  189. 1501: 
    Liverpool v Newcastle (16:00 GMT)

    BREAKING: Papiss Cisse starts instead of Shola Ameobi in attack for Newcastle against Liverpool at Anfield.

  190.  

    Ruridh Allen on Twitter: "Looks like someone has glued a big blue caterpillar onto Cisse's head. Loving the new haircut. Cracking finish too."

  191. 1500: 

    Djibril Cisse's goal ends a run of eight games without a goal for the striker. It is his second strike of the season. His first also came against Reading in the 3-2 defeat at Loftus Road in September.

  192.  

    Eyton Halon on Twitter: "Once again, Wimbledon could play MK Dons in FA Cup 2nd Round. A dream draw for TV producers, but nightmare for Wimbledon fans."

    Chris Brown on Twitter: "Harrogate v Hastings. Battle of the alliterati."

  193.  

    Rob, Reading, via text: "Story of our season, lack the concentration to hold onto a lead, again!"

  194. 1458: 

    Reading's Jason Roberts has a sniff of a chance in the box from Jobi McAnuff's cross but Anton Ferdinand blocks the effort.

  195.   
    Gary Lineker, BBC Sport

    "Could turn out to be a huge goal for QPR and Mark Hughes. Turning point?"

  196.  

    Greg Martin on Twitter: "Game on. Important goal for Hughes. May have saved him a job on Monday morning!"

    Adrian Tang on Twitter: "Will Reading be able to hold onto a lead this season? Doubtful. And if you can't beat the club at the bottom who can you beat?"

  197. 1456: 

    Down the other end, Reading almost retake the lead as Jimmy Kebe shows great pace to tear past Armand Traore before firing a shot wide of goal from range. This game is there for the taking for either side now with 20 minutes to go.

  198. 1455: 

    Loftus Road is buzzing now. And the home side almost give them more to cheer about as Adel Taarabt draws a good diving save out of Alex McCarthy from range.

  199. 1452: 
    GOAL- QPR 1-1 Reading - Djibril Cisse (66 mins)

    QPR have been pushing and they get their reward. Jose Bosingwa swings over a cross from the right, which Djibril Cisse flicks with his thigh over a QPR defender and into a clear shooting chance six yards out before steering his shot into the far corner. Whether he meant the controlling touch in that way or not is moot. All the home side care about is that they are level.

  200. 1451: 

    A bit of treatment later and Noel Hunt is OK to continue for Reading.

  201. 1450: 

    Reading's Noel Hunt is down holding his face. Esteban Granero leapt with him for a header and landed an elbow. I don't think it was intentional but it was certainly painful for Hunt.

  202. 1448: 
    SUBSTITUTION

    30 minutes to go at Loftus Road and we have our first change. It is like for like on the wing as Garath McCleary is replaced by Jimmy Kebe for Reading.

  203. 1446: 
    FA CUP SECOND-ROUND DRAW

    Ties to be played on the weekend of the 1/2 December.

  204. 1447: 

    QPR are upping the pressure now on Reading. Djibril Cisse has a shot blocked but Jose Bosingwa follows up with a low cross from the right that briefly has the away side panicking before they clear. There are shouts for a penalty after Jamie Mackie tumbles but the referee isn't convinced.

  205. 1446: 
    FA CUP SECOND-ROUND DRAW

    Harrogate Town v Hastings United

    Coventry City v Morecambe/Rochdale

    Cambridge City/MK Dons v York/AFC Wimbledon

    Crawley Town v Chelmsford City

    Fleetwood Town v Aldershot Town

    And rest...................

  206. 1445: 
    FA CUP SECOND-ROUND DRAW

    Rotherham v Notts County

    Cheltenham Town v Hereford

    Guiseley/Barrow v Macclesfield

    Accrington Stanley v Oxford United

    Lincoln City/Walsall v Mansfield Town/Slough

  207. 1444: 
    FA CUP SECOND-ROUND DRAW

    Northampton/Bradford v Brentford

    Luton/Nuneaton v Dorchester/Plymouth

    Alfreton Town v Gloucester City/Leyton Orient

    Oldham Athletic v Doncaster Rovers

    Braintree Town/Tranmere v Chesterfield

  208. 1442: 
    FA CUP SECOND-ROUND DRAW

    Preston North End v Gillingham

    Bury v Southend United

    Sheffield United v Port Vale

    Carlisle United v Bournemouth

    Crewe v Burton/Altrincham

  209. 1442: 

    Another Reading corner is delivered by Nicky Shorey and met by Mikele Leigertwood in the box but his header floats harmlessly over the bar.

  210. 1441: 
    FA CUP SECOND-ROUND DRAW

    OK, here we go..................

  211.  

    Denim Bartholomew on Twitter: "Hoping for a home draw for Hastings United!"

  212. 1440: 

    The two big Reading centre-backs are causing plenty of problems in the QPR box. Jose Bosingwa fouls Jobi McAnuff out wide left and Nicky Shorey swings over the free-kick for Sean Morrison to meet but head wide.

  213. 1440: 
    FA CUP SECOND-ROUND DRAW

    We are now just minutes away from the draw for the second round of the FA Cup.

  214.  

    James, via text: "Dear Mark Hughes, we were wrong. Your ambition clearly is paying off. Apologies from 7th. Sincerely, Fulham Football Club."

  215. 1437: 
    SCOTTISH PREMIER LEAGUE LATEST

    United have levelled the game in stoppage time as a cross from Barry Douglas clips the head of Celtic defender Efe Ambrose and sails over keeper Fraser Forster to land in the far corner of the net.

  216.  

    Ad Harkin on Twitter: "Re Josh. Fraser Forster > Alex McCarthy > Ruddy - England number two."

    Gene Yew on Twitter: "No no no no. Jack Butland England number two!"

  217. 1436: 
    SCOTTISH PREMIER LEAGUE LATEST

    Dundee United are not giving this one up. Gary Mackay-Stevens reduces the deficit to 2-1 with a composed finish and Johnny Russell flashes a shot wide as we approach injury time.

  218. 1436: 

    Esteban Granero remains a potent threat from set-pieces for the home side. Jay Tabb's foul on Samba Diakite gives QPR a free-kick 25 yards from goal and Granero is a yard away from finding the top corner. Some fans think the ball is in but it is just the side-netting rustling as the ball goes wide.

  219.  

    Phil Broeders on Twitter: "Hughes tries to blame everything and everyone for QPR's woes but he spent he cash and plans the tactics. He has got to go now."

    JK on Twitter: "Can see Tony Fernandes ringing Harry Redknapp up during this half-time."

    Matt Kirk on Twitter: "Why do people believe Redknapp will save the day when a team is struggling? He only does well at teams with money, ask Southampton."

  220. 1433: 

    Reading start the second half as they began the first, with a Jobi McAnuff ball to the near post that QPR have to hammer away. The Royals force a corner soon after but Sean Morrison misses his header from the edge of the box.

  221. 1431: 
    KICK-OFF - SECOND HALF- QPR 0-1 Reading
  222.  

    Reading fan James Cox on Twitter: "All the talk is about QPR and that's how we like it #undertheradar"

  223. 1431: 
    FA CUP SECOND-ROUND DRAW

    The draw for the second round of the FA Cup takes place at approximately 1440 GMT. Numbers to watch out for include non-League giant-killers Chelmsford City (3), Harrogate Town (10) and Macclesfield Town (13) who all knocked out League opposition yesterday. The lowest-ranked side still in the competition are Slough Town of the Southern League Division One Central, who drew with Mansfield yesterday (ball 30). Yesterday's highest scorers were League Two side Chesterfield (20), who thumped managerless Hartlepool 6-1.

  224.  

    Craig, Newcastle, via text: "QPR are basically the same as the Newcastle team in the relegation season, based on reputation and no team ethic."

    Josh Orwin, via text: "Alex McCarthy > Ruddy - England number two."

  225. 1429: 
    SCOTTISH PREMIER LEAGUE LATEST

    Celtic double their lead at Tannadice as a poor clearance from Radoslaw Cierzniak lands at the feet of Tony Watt and the Celtic teenager races past John Rankin and into the penalty area before smashing a powerful shot into the far corner of the net.

  226. 1428:  
    MOTD's Conor McNamara at Anfield:Liverpool v Newcastle (16:00 GMT)

    "Whenever we reminisce about high-scoring thrillers in the top flight, it is never long before Liverpool's famous 4-3 win over Newcastle at Anfield in 1996 enters the conversation. Watching on that extraordinary night was a young trainee at Anfield still two months short of his 16th birthday, called Steven Gerrard, who is set to make his 600th senior appearance for the club.

    Reds boss Brendan Rodgers told me that he would have preferred to have rested Luis Suarez completely in the League Cup in midweek, but he is the only fit striker at the club. Like Liverpool with Suarez, Newcastle have a strong reliance on Demba Ba but at least they have alternatives in Papiss Cisse and Shola Ameobi."

  227.  

    James, Kings Lynn, via text: "Barton back to QPR - just what they need. NOT!"

  228. 1425: 

    You've just seen Jason Roberts playing during the last 45 minutes but that is not the only string to his bow. He recently spoke to Fabrice Muamba - who has retired from football after suffering a heart-attack on the pitch in an FA Cup tie at Tottenham last season - on BBC Radio 5 live. Here is what that former Bolton midfielder had to say...

    "The support has been overwhelming. Players like Messi and Kaka praying for you. I hardly know Messi. I know him as a footballer but I don't know him personally. I'm grateful for this.

    "Football has given me so much joy and I have met so many wonderful people in this football world, it has opened so many door for me but, in the bigger picture, I have a family now. As much as I enjoy playing football and wanted to come back -- it would have been an unbelievable story to come back and play football - but it's not worth it. [It was a case of] just concentrating on something else and making sure the family is ok."

  229.  

    Liverpool defender Glen Johnson on Twitter: "What a day for football #3PointsPlease"

  230. 1422:  
    MOTD's Simon Brotherton at Loftus Road:QPR 0-1 Reading

    "Boos can be heard around Loftus Road as the half-time whistle blows. QPR trail to Kaspars Gorkss' header and although they came close to an equaliser when Esteban Granero's free-kick was tipped on to bar by Alex McCarthy, Reading have had the better of this so far."

  231. 1420: 
    SCOTTISH PREMIER LEAGUE LATEST

    Celtic are in front as Miku gathers a first-time flick from Tony Watt and dances past two challenges inside the penalty box before dinking the ball beyond Dundee United keeper Radoslaw Cierzniak. A lovely finish for the Venezuelan's first goal in Scotland.

  232.  

    Tom Seagrim on Twitter: "QPR's problem is that their club is being seen as a retirement village with a cushy wage for accomplished players."

    Christopher Penny on Twitter: "QPR can buy as many £4-5m players as they like, but it won't improve the quality of the first eleven. Weakness in depth!"

  233. 1416: 
    HALF-TIME- QPR 0-1 Reading

    The home side are jeered off at the break. They haven't been good. For Reading this is half of a job done.

  234. 1416: 

    QPR have a late corner. Can they get a very timely equaliser? The answer is no as Kaspars Gorkss heads clear under a challenge from Ryan Nelsen.

  235. 1414: 

    There is a minute to go until half-time. QPR are seeking a way through the Reading backline but the visitors are holding very firm.

  236. 1412: 

    Armand Traore gets a bit lucky on the halfway line. The defender is awarded a free-kick when Jay Tabb tackles him but the Reading midfielder got some of the ball and had play not been stopped the Royals would have been away.

  237.  

    Ben, Rugby, via text: "What is wrong with QPR? Three of their players have won the Champions League, plus the likes of Granero, Taarabt and Zamora. Old 'Arry would sort them out!"

  238.  

    Dave Cassells on Twitter: "I agree with Adam Bunnage. QPR need a leader and that leader is playing in the French league. QPR need Barton back."

  239. 1409: 
    HITS THE WOODWORK

    Oh, what a save from Alex McCarthy! Jamie Mackie is fouled on the edge of the box and QPR have a very dangerous free-kick. Esteban Granero curls it towards the top corner but the Reading keeper springs to his left and tips the ball onto the bar. Jose Bosingwa follows up but fires his shot over the bar.

  240.  

    Josh Reynolds on Twitter: "QPR's form is no surprise given the huge overhaul in terms of playing staff in summer. They'll improve, but not in time for MH."

    Matthew Baker on Twitter: "QPR are the prime example that, to be successful, you have to build a team instead of buying a load of individuals."

  241. 1406: 

    QPR waste a promising move on the break as Jose Bosingwa's cross from the left is badly mishit with his weaker foot and sails harmlessly into the stand. Soon after, Adel Taarabt plants another long-range shot into Alex McCarthy's midriff.

  242. 1403: 
    YELLOW CARD- Reading's Noel Hunt

    Hunt trips Samba Diakite in midfield and gets the game's first booking.

  243.  

    Adam Bunnage on Twitter: "Every team needs a leader especially in the Premier League, I'm not sure if QPR have got one."

  244. 1402: 

    Reading break away through Jason Roberts but his eventual shot from an angle is blocked. The danger is not gone, though, as a foul 25 yards from goal gives Nicky Shorey the chance to shoot from a free-kick. However, Shorey cannot get the ball up and down quick enough and clears the bar with his effort.

  245.  

    Opta Joe on Twitter: "Kaspars Gorkss is only the second Latvian player to score in the Premier League, Marian Pahars (42 goals) was the other. Rare."

  246. 1400: 

    There is only one well-organised, cohesive team playing at Loftus Road at the moment and it is not the one in hoops. Reading have structure. In contrast, QPR appear to be relying largely on a few skillful individuals for inspiration. One of those, Adel Taarabt, gets another shot in on goal from range but it is saved by Alex McCarthy.

  247. 1357: 
    SCOTTISH PREMIER LEAGUE LATEST

    The second half at Tannadice opens with Dundee United spurning a great chance as Celtic keeper Fraser Forster can only parry a fierce strike from Willo Flood and Johnny Russell blazes the loose ball over the top. You can follow all the action on the BBC website.

  248.  

    Richard Parfitt on Twitter: "Not quite sure why QPR fans think they should be mid-table on the basis of buying up the big name pensioners."

    Josh Hood on Twitter: "Mark Hughes OUT Harry Redknapp IN within the next week."

    Tom Worsley on Twitter: "QPR losing again. I think Mark Hughes' nickname of 'Sparky' is very apt, as it'll probably have to be his next profession."

  249. 1356: 

    It is very quiet at Loftus Road. The home crowd have seen little to inspire them so far. However, Adel Taarabt looks to change that with a long-range effort that is well-hit but always rising and clears the bar by a yard or two.

  250. 1354: 

    Kaspars Gorkss concedes a corner with a tackle on Djibril Cisse. Esteban Granero delivers after exchanging a short corner with Adel Taarabt but his cross is claimed by Reading keeper Alex McCarthy at the second attempt.

  251.  

    Kuntal Majumdar on Twitter: "1-0 to Reading. Big, big goal. Sparky out."

    George on Twitter: "QPR haven't looked like a Premier League side for a long time, their poor start should come as no shock to the fans."

  252. 1351: 

    QPR will be looking to Djibril Cisse now as one of the players capable of firing them back into this game. He has a chance from a cross in the box but mishits his first-time shot.

  253. 1350: 

    Mark Hughes is under some serious pressure now. Reading continue their assault as Sean Morrison makes a nuisance of himself in the box again from a corner. QPR only briefly clear before Reading muscle the ball back and force another corner that comes to nothing when Morrison is adjudged to have fouled his marker.

  254. 1346: 
    GOAL- QPR 0-1 Reading - Kaspars Gorkss (16 mins)

    Reading strike first. It is not a surprise on the balance of the first 15 minutes to see them ahead. Nicky Shorey's corner from the left is headed up and then against the crossbar at the second attempt by Sean Morrison before Kaspars Gorkss reacts quickest to acrobatically hammer home the rebound. Out of respect for his former club, the defender doesn't celebrate. He'll be fully aware of the potential importance of that goal, though.

  255.  

    Guy Walsh on Twitter: "QPR should be a mid-table team with the quality and money they have. Hughes has to go."

  256. 1345: 

    Junior Hoilett is into the action for QPR. Adel Taarabt finds his team-mate just outside the box but his shot fizzes past the post.

  257. 1344: 

    Reading look a lot more organised and composed on the ball at the moment. Jobi McAnuff is handed possession on the left after a nice period of possession but his cross is too heavy and swings harmlessly out of play.

  258. 1342: 

    This is more encouraging from the home side now. Djibril Cisse gets hold of possession 25 yards from goal and drives into a better shooting opportunity from the edge of the box but his effort swings just past the top corner of the net.

  259. 1341: 

    It has been a scratchy opening 10 minutes from QPR but Adel Taarabt almost cuts open the Reading defence with a ball aimed towards Djibril Cisse on the edge of the box. Fortunately for Reading Jay Tabb is alert to it and cuts the ball out.

  260. 1338: 

    For the record, three Premier League clubs have avoided relegation after failing to win in their first 10 top-flight matches of the season - Derby County in 2000-01, Everton in 1994-95, and Blackburn in 1996-97. If QPR fail to win today they will need to add themselves to this list if they are to stay up this season.

  261. 1336: 
    SCOTTISH PREMIER LEAGUE LATEST

    Half-time and Celtic are on top and really should be ahead, with Thomas Rogne and Scott Brown both guilty of missing the target with headers from close range. United are working hard but have not posed any kind of attacking threat.

  262. 1336: 

    It is Reading again on the attack. Jay Tabb's run and pass gives Noel Hunt possession in the box but he drags his shot past the far post. The Royals have definitely started this game with purpose.

  263.  

    Daniel, Liverpool, via text: "Here's a cheeky little fact for you. Raheem Sterling wasn't even born the last time Newcastle beat Liverpool at Anfield. How old does that make you feel, Phil?"

    32

  264. 1333: 

    Reading on the attack early on. Kaspars Gorkss fluffs a header in the box from a cross from the right but the Royals come again and the home side need to be focused to clear a Jobi McAnuff low cross to the near post.

  265. 1330: 
    SCOTTISH PREMIER LEAGUE LATEST

    Celtic miss another glorious chance with Scott Brown the culprit this time. Charlie Mulgrew whips in a lovely cross from deep to find his skipper right in front of goal but the midfielder makes a right hash of things, skewing his header wide.

  266. 1330: 
    KICK-OFF- QPR v Reading (13:30 GMT)
  267.  

    Tom, via text: "What are the odds on Cisse getting sent off or scoring today? He could be the difference between the two sides today."

  268. 1329: 

    Djibril Cisse has opted for a blue mohawk today. Bit of club pride on show.

  269.  

    Conor Hall on Twitter: "As a QPR fan I'm so annoyed to be bottom with the team we have. Hughes has to go if we don't win today."

  270. 1325: 

    We've had fireworks going off all weekend. Literally. Expect more today at Loftus Road. The teams are on their way out. Kick-off coming up very soon.

  271. 1325: 

    Reading manager Brian McDermott is confident he has the backing of new owner Anton Zingarevich and has taken comfort from words of support from Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger. The Royal are third bottom in the Premier League and were beaten 7-5 by the Gunners in the Capital One Cup on Tuesday. "Arsene was really respectful. He said no team goes 4-0 up against Arsenal so we have to be proud of that first 40 minutes," McDermott said. "In February I signed a new deal. The owner said to me I'm the bloke he wants as his manager."

  272. 1323: 

    QPR manager Mark Hughes is not seeking sympathy following some narrow defeats for his bottom-of-the-table side. "Nobody needs to feel sorry for me," he said. "We have played teams in the top half of the table and have acquitted ourselves well without getting the points we felt we deserved. This is football. It's fine. You can do everything correctly and sometimes you can get a curve ball and the roof starts falling in. Now we are up against teams in and around us so they take on more significance because we need to get maximum points."

  273. 1321: 

    One of the reasons QPR have struggled in 2012 is the that they developed an ability not to end matches with a full compliment of players. Rangers have had nine men sent off in the Premier League in 2012. That is five more than any other team.

    Speaking of red cards, Infostrada tell us that there have been five red cards in the last four league matches in QPR v Reading. Four for QPR, one for Reading.

  274.  

    Benny Curtis on Twitter: "Two average sides playing each other, both going down."

  275.  

    Danny Partington on Twitter: "Looking at the players at QPR's disposal they should be doing MUCH better than they are. Should get three points today. Should..."

  276. 1315: 
    QPR v Reading (13:30 GMT)

    QPR bring in Anton Ferdinand to replace the suspended Stephane Mbia in central defence, one of three changes from the side beaten by Arsenal in their last fixture. The other two changes are at the other end of the pitch, with Shaun-Wright-Phillips and Bobby Zamoroa both dropping to the bench and Djbril Cisse and Jamie Mackie starting. Reading keep faith with the defence that let in seven goals against Arsenal in midweek. Winger Garath McCleary also starts again and Jason Roberts and Noel Hunt retain their places up front. Pavel Pogrebnyak, Adrian Mariappa, Shaun Cummings and Jimmy Kebe - who all started the last league game against Fulham - miss out.

  277.  

    Andrew, south Wales, via text: "Re 1255. Me and my Dad who are both lifelong Spurs fans saved up for our first visit to White Hart Lane yesterday. Fantastic stadium and support but aside from Vertonghen and Bale we were very disappointed with the lack of effort and imagination displayed. It was a very long journey home!"

  278. 1311: 
    SCOTTISH PREMIER LEAGUE LATEST

    Dundee United are working hard to close Celtic down in wide areas but the visitors should be ahead at Tannadice, with defender Thomas Rogne heading a gilt-edged chance wide. You can follow all the action on the BBC website.

  279. 1309: 
    LINE-UPS- QPR v Reading (13:30 GMT)

    QPR: Julio Cesar, Bosingwa, Ferdinand, Nelsen, Traore, Mackie, Granero, Diakite, Taarabt, Hoilett, Cisse. Subs: Green, Derry, Hill, Wright-Phillips, Onuoha, Zamora, Faurlin.

    Reading: McCarthy, Gunter, Morrison, Gorkss, Shorey, McCleary, Leigertwood, Tabb, McAnuff, Roberts, Hunt. Subs: Federici, Pearce, Pogrebnyak, Le Fondre, Kebe, Robson-Kanu, Cummings.

    Referee: Michael Oliver (Northumberland)

  280.  

    Sam Ellard on Twitter: "I know it's early in the season but whoever loses in the match between QPR and Reading will get relegated."

  281. 1307: 

    Football is littered with players who performed wonders for your Champions League-winning side in Champ/Football Manager and then turned out to be, well, a bit rubbish in real life. Ibrahima Bakayoko, Cherno Samba, Mark Kerr for example. Freddy Adu is one of the leading lights in this category.

    You all remember Adu, right? The teenage wonderkid, Man Utd's next signing, the new Pele? If not you'll want to read the piece on our website.

  282.  

    QPR midfielder Joey Barton, currently on-loan at Marseille, on Twitter: "Fancy QPR to win their first game in the league today. Should be to strong at home to Reading. Good luck lads."

  283.  

    Perran, via text: "Huge game for Liverpool today. Far too many points dropped at home this season. I predict a high scoring game with Suarez and Ba both getting a few!"

  284. 1302:  
    MOTD's Simon Brotherton at Loftus Road:QPR v Reading (13:30 GMT)

    "Like Reading, Queens Park Rangers have stumbled out of the gate in the Premier League. And with a combined 17 matches played so far, the teams haven't managed a single win. Rangers are rock bottom with three draws from nine games, while Reading have a point more from their eight matches. No one's been cut adrift yet, but the clock's ticking. This is actually the first time the two clubs have played each other in the top division, but QPR have got the better of recent league encounters by winning three of the last four."

  285. 1259: 

    Three results yesterday have put even more pressure on both QPR and Reading to get a win today. Before Saturday's 3pm games, Wigan, Norwich and Aston Villa occupied the three spots directly above the relegation zone with the gap between 17th and 18th at two points. Wins for all three sides (Wigan at Spurs, Norwich 1-0 at home over Stoke and Villa 1-0 at Sunderland) have shifted the Latics up to 12th, the Canaries to 14th and Villa five points clear of the bottom three (albeit still in 17th).

    Your move QPR and Reading.

  286. 1255: 

    If Brad Friedel has got his way today, the Tottenham players will currently be undertaking a look that is long, hard and aimed squarely at themselves. Spurs lost 1-0 at home to Wigan yesterday and it is fair to say Friedel is not happy.

    "It was an awful day," Friedel said. "Every single one of us needs to take a long, hard look in the mirror and hold our hands up. We didn't perform from minute one to minute 95.

    "We will have to go back and look at the video. Normally we have some positives and negatives but I have a feeling this one will be full of negatives. This was just not a Tottenham performance."

  287. 1250: 

    Chelsea were leading the Premier League on Saturday morning, but they finished the day in second after a 1-1 draw at Swansea. Blues manager Roberto Di Matteo says tough back-to-back matches against Manchester United were the reason for their draw at Swansea City, not the row involving referee Mark Clattenburg, which involves the club's complaint to the Football Association for alleged "inappropriate language" aimed at John Mikel Obi by the official during last Sunday's loss to Manchester United.

    "I wouldn't read anything into what has happened and the result," he said. "It is very difficult to win away from home in the Premier League. We have certainly felt tired this week after the two games with Manchester United, including extra-time."

  288. 1246: 

    Manchester United's win took them top of the Premier League - a position they held thanks to rivals Manchester City failing to win at West Ham. Roberto Mancini's side were held to a 0-0 draw by the Hammers and the Italian was damning of his side's performance in goal - particularly the contribution of striker Mario Balotelli, who missed a great chance from close range.

    "I think that a player like Balotelli, when he has a chance like [that], he should score," said Mancini. "It's not a fair result. When you have 65% ball possession, 22 shots - maybe less shots on goal - you deserve to win."

  289. 1243: 

    Our chief football writer Phil McNulty's take on the game at Old Trafford is summed up in the title of his latest blog - Lame Arsenal a shadow of Man Utd's former foes.

    Phil writes: "Downcast [Sir Alex] Ferguson was not even cheered by United's 2-1 win over Arsenal that took them back to the top of the Premier League as he declared: 'The whole day was disappointing.'

    "And this was because the serious element of competition was removed by Arsenal's lame performance."

  290.  

    Liverpool's ex-Newcastle defender Jose Enrique on Twitter: "Can't wait for the game today. We have to get three points today. Have a good day today."

  291. 1238: 

    Arsene Wenger was understandably unhappy after the loss at Old Trafford. He was particularly disgruntled with the display of referee Mike Dean.

    The Gunners conceded a penalty when Santi Cazorla handled an Ashley Young cross and later had Jack Wilshere sent off for two rash challenges. Wenger said: "We always have a penalty against us when we play Manchester United so we get used to it." He also felt Wilshere did not deserve to be dismissed. "It looked harsh from the stand, the second yellow," he said.

  292. 1235: 

    The fall-out from Arsenal's defeat at Manchester United keeps rolling in. The scoreline wasn't as emphatic as last season's 8-2 loss but the Gunners' 2-1 loss was still pretty telling of the gulf between the teams. The performance was damning enough to provoke ex-Arsenal captain Tony Adams to say the current team will struggle to finish in the top four because there is no belief within manager Arsene Wenger's squad.

  293. 1233: 

    Nah, I'm only kidding. I'm still here. Before we go looking at today's Premier League matches, I'll have a sneaky peak back at yesterday's action...

  294.  

    Vlaar Mar Superstar on Twitter: "I take great offence with the suggestion that The Goonies could be regarded as 'Plan B'. The Goonies should ALWAYS be Plan A."

    I've been as blind-sided as One Eyed Willy. Vlaar is of course right. Goonies never say die. In fact, forget this text commentary, I'm off to stick the DVD on...

  295. 1228: 

    So, we've lost half our FA Cup first round action thanks to the rain. However, as it stands we've still got games on at Burton and Dorchester. And the two Premier League games are still very much on like Donkey Kong.

  296. 1226: 
    SCOTTISH PREMIER LEAGUE PREVIEW

    Celtic can return to the top of the table if the avoid defeat at Dundee United. The visitors are missing several forward players through injury and are resting a few ahead of next week's meeting with Barcelona, so 18-year-old Tony Watt leads the line, with support from Kris Commons. United have not won at home since August but will be more dangerous now that skipper Jon Daly has returned to his normal striking role after a few weeks of filling in as an auxiliary central defender.

  297.  

    BBC Gloucestershire on Twitter: "Gloucester City v Leyton Orient in FA Cup MATCH OFF due to waterlogged pitch. No new date arranged yet."

    Another one bites the... er... mud.

  298. 1222: 
    FA CUP PREVIEW

    Only three FA Cup first round ties to get your teeth into today. The early-kick off between Braintree Town and Tranmere is off due to a waterlogged pitch, which has also cost us the game between Gloucester City and Leyton Orient. Burton Albion take on Altrincham, managed by Lee Sinnott who was runner-up as a player in this competition in 1984 with Watford. Dorchester, 13th in Conference South, take on League Two strugglers Plymouth in the late kick-off.

  299.  

    Michael Blighe on Twitter: "ITV have gone for the safe option of Johnny English, featuring the loveable Rowan Atkinson and John Malkovich as the bad guy."

    Meh.

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2 Chelsea 10 12 23
3 Man City 10 9 22
4 Everton 10 6 17
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6 Arsenal 10 7 15
7 Fulham 10 5 15
8 West Ham 10 2 15
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17 Aston Villa 10 -6 9
18 Reading 9 -6 5
19 QPR 10 -11 4
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