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Arsenal lose at Olympiakos and Man City are beaten by Borussia Dortmund in the final round of group games in the Champions League.

4 December 2012 Last updated at 22:11 GMT

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  1. 2211: 

    So then, another bad night for the Premier League in Europe. And, whisper it quietly, it could get worse tomorrow. Chelsea, the defending champions, could be going out.

    The better news is that Celtic could yet join Manchester United in the knockout stages.

    You won't want to be missing that one, so make sure you join me again.

    I'm of to listen to some Nuno Bettencourt. See you tomorrow night.

  2. 2205: 
    Borussia Dortmund 1-0 Man City

    Manchester City manager Roberto Mancini:

    "I don't think we lost our qualifying tonight, we lost before. Tonight we tried but we were missing players. We had chances to score but we didn't and if you don't do it is difficult to win.

    "Getting into the Europa League was our target tonight. We wanted to win but to win we needed to score.

    "It will help [in the Premier League] because we are not in the Europa League but at the moment we cannot think about this. We are not in the Europa League and for this we should be disappointed. Last season we did better. This year we had a very difficult group and if you make a mistake in the first two or three games it is very difficult.

    "Sunday will be different for sure, it will be a very tough game but we will recover some players."

  3. 2203: 

    Ethan on text: "Being a City fan I'm less angry about us being eliminated, what with it only being our 2nd year and a hard group again, and more angry at the insipid performances City have made after the first group game against Real Madrid."

    Bruno on text: "I'd rather be in a pot with Porto, Malaga, Dortmund than Madrid, Milan and PSG."

  4. 2202: 

    Arsene Wenger will come under more pressure than ever to spend some money in January now. Will he though?

    "That [signings] is a key question I cannot answer directly after this game tonight," he said.

    "What is important is we do well until January now. We have big games coming up and the most important thing is to focus on the players we have to win the games."

  5. 2200: 
    Olympiakos 2-1 Arsenal

    Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger: "For their first goal, it was a goal kick, simple as that. Not a corner. What is the fifth referee doing behind the line? Nobody knows. I don't think it was the right decision, but we have to cope with it. After that they scored a good goal.

    "It was an interesting game. We had a good first half but dropped physically in the second. Many of the players are not used to that level. We had two or three chances to score a second but after that we know we can be in trouble. We needed the second goal tonight.

    "We have to wait for the draw but ideally you would want to finish first."

  6. 2159: 

    Anthony Coffey on Twitter: "I've seen more passion in a divorce settlement than in the whole City team. Disgraceful."

    Graeme J MacDonald on Twitter: "City will continue to get tough Champions League draws until they take the Europa League seriously and build a better co-efficient. Simple."

    Robin Greer on Twitter: "People who make sweeping statements about the 'downfall' of English teams in the Champions League should glance at recent finalists/winners."

  7. 2159: 

    A late result in from the game which was badly held up by snow.

    Ivan Krstanovic hits a penalty in the 95th minute to earn Dinamo Zagreb a 1-1 draw at home to Dynamo Kiev.

  8. 2157: 

    So then Arsenal fans - where did it go wrong tonight? And City fans - where did it go wrong this season?Let us know on text and Twitter.

  9. 2156: 

    Infostrada Sports tweets: "Man City are the second English champions to finish bottom in the (first) group phase after Blackburn Rovers in 1995/96.

    "Man United also finished last in the first group phase in 2005/06, but they were not the reigning Premier League champions (Chelsea 2004/05)."

  10. 2156: 

    Away from the bright lights of the Champions League, I bring you the stat of the day from the FA Trophy first round replay where Luton Town have recorded their lowest home crowd in the club's history tonight.

    There were just 897 at Kenilworth Road for a 3-1 win for the Hatters - including 16 from Dorchester.

  11. 2152: 
    Borussia Dortmund 1-0 Man City

    Manchester City keeper Joe Hart is always a very honest man after a game, and he was visibly angry and frustrated in that interview. However, he does not believe tonight's display will affect the Manchester Derby on Sunday.

    He added: "We have been fantastic in the league though so there is no worries on that front. We have been consistent. Hopefully we can win the league and be back next year."

  12. 2152: 

    Former Manchester United and City goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel tweets: "To be successful in the Champions League you need good players, a plan, a concept, luck and leaders on and off the pitch. Dortmund has it all.

    "Therefore it's no wonder that Dortmund won the Group of Death so convincingly."

  13. 2150: 
    Borussia Dortmund 1-0 Man City

    Manchester City goalkeeper Joe Hart: "Was it the same old story? Yes. I don't know why. I'd love to answer it. We need to address it though.

    "The intensity was there but once they scored it disappeared which is a shame as we have showed we are a side that can come from behind. Of course we have let ourselves down, because we haven't even got in the Europa League.

    "There was a hunger to win tonight and if that meant Europa League than great. But we have got bigger issues than that. We were up against a weakened team and we had to win. We should be fighting to go through to the last 16 on the last day and we have only got ourselves to blame that we are not."

  14. 2148: 

    One game is still being played in Group A - Kiev v Zagreb - after kick-off was delayed thanks to flurries of snow. How festive.

    Nonetheless, in the other Group A game Carlo Ancelotti's Paris Saint-Germain overcame group leaders Porto 2-1 to leapfrog the Portuguese and win the group.

    Montpellier were able to draw with Schalke in Group B, but that made no difference to the final shape of things - the German team go through as group winners with Arsenal second. Olympiakos are into the Europa League.

    Also third in Group C were Zenit St Petersburg, whose shock 1-0 win in Milan pushed them clear of Anderlecht, despite the Belgians' last minute equaliser for 2-2 in Malaga.

    And Group D looks the same as it did at the start of play, with Borussia Dortmund winners, Real Madrid second, Ajax into the Europa League and Manchester City out of Europe altogether.

  15. 2148: 

    John in Manchester on 81111 on text: "Can't do well in both the league and Europe? United got to the Champions League final in 99, 08, 09, 11. They won the league in all those years as well. Not a valid excuse with City's squad."

    Matt from Wimbledon on 81111 on text: "Leonardo Bittencourt becomes the greatest player in the world on FIFA once you get to 2018!"

    Rich in London on 81111 on text: "Nuno Bettencourt was the guitarist in Extreme - now plays guitar for Rihanna. Very, very, very little known fact."

    I did not know that was what he is up to now. I bet he tries to get her to do 'More than Words' every gig as well.

  16. 2144: 

    I've just seen the corner decision which angered Arsenal in the build-up to the first Olympiakos goal. I still can't tell if Wojciech Szczesny did get a touch to it or not though. Whatever - they should have defended the cross much, much better.

  17. 2141: 

    Jack McCourt on Twitter: "English dominance in Europe is well and truly a thing of the past. City and Chelsea facing elimination, Arsenal poor."

    Jack Chesterman on Twitter: "City looked leggy, passionless and with a distinct lack of ideas. Not long before Mancini may be looking for that P45 I feel."

    Trevor D Forde on Twitter: "Say goodbye to Kompany and company..."

  18. 2138:  
    Everton captain Phil Neville on BBC Radio 5 live

    "I don't think the Europa League interested Man City that much. They will probably be happy that they've gone out tonight."

  19. 2137: 

    Manchester City are the first English team to play six Champions League group games without winning a single one.

  20. 2137:  
    Everton captain Phil Neville on BBC Radio 5 live

    "Tonight shows the lack of depth in the Arsenal squad."

  21. 2136: 

    So that is that then - Manchester City are out of Europe altogether, while Arsenal finish second in their group.

  22. 2136: 
    FULL-TIME- Borussia Dortmund 1-0 Man City
  23. 2136:  
    Pat Nevin in Athens for BBC Radio 5 live

    "The best team, by some distance, won tonight. Olympiakos outpassed this Arsenal side. Don't kid yourself: this was 2-1 going on 3-1 or 4-1. Arsenal's front four or six gave us very little indeed. Arsene Wenger cut a frustrated figure down there and for most of the second half busied himself arguing with the officials on the touchline."

    Listen to reaction to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  24. 2135: 

    Mario Balotelli has been bubbling up for a few minutes now, and after he is penalised for raising his arm in a challenge he smashes the ball into the turf petulantly and is predictably booked. Into stoppage time in Dortmund.

  25. 2133: 
    FULL-TIME- Olympiakos 2-1 Arsenal
  26. 2131:  
    Pat Nevin in Athens for BBC Radio 5 live

    "Arsene Wenger will be really disappointed with the displays from a number of his players in this side. Just a few moments ago Oxlade-Chamberlain had a great run but there was no-one in there to pick it up and attack that ball. There's nothing wrong with Oxlade-Chamberlain - if you give him the ball in the right areas he will do stuff. But he is never being given balls in those areas. It's just not happened for Arsenal."

    Listen to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  27. 2129: 

    Change for Dortmund - with the freshest-faced fresh-faced youngster of the night coming on. Leonardo Bittencourt - wasn't that the guitarist in Extreme? - is on in place of Oliver Kirch.

  28. 2128: 

    A rare chance for Manchester City. Sergio Aguero breaks free from the shackles of his marker to get a low shot off from wide on the left but to be honest it's an easy save for Roman Weidenfeller.

  29. 2128: 

    Tom in Leicester on 81111 on text: "A really poor show from City once again. They certainly don't deserve a Europa League place. Disgraceful attitude to a worthwhile trophy."

    Mich on 81111 on text: "Ramsey starts and Arsenal lose is becoming more and more of a trend..."

    Michael from Sunderland on 81111 on text: "Man City don't want to be in the Europa League. If it's not the Champions League, nothing. Also, they are free to focus on Premier League."

  30. 2128: 

    Into the last five minutes we go. It looks like another poor night for our sides in Europe.

  31. 2125: 

    Joe Hart has had a right workout at the hands of Borussia Dortmund this season, and he makes another blinding save. Robert Lewandowksi breaks into the area, shows great composure to take an extra touch to beat his marker before firing in left-footed. Hart spreads himself, and the ball smashes into his face. Take one for the team there Joe.

  32. 2124: 

    Arsenal replace left-back Jernade Meade with another youngster Martin Angha, who is making his European debut. Seven minutes to go...

  33. 2123: 

    In Group B, Arsenal's group, the Gunners were briefly top when they were winning 1-0 and Schalke were a goal down away at Montpellier, But two goals conceded in Athens and an equaliser in France pushes the Germans top of the standings once more.

    PSG are now ahead again at home to Porto, and if that 2-1 scoreline stays the same they will top Group A.

    Zenit still lead AC Milan by a solitary goal, but with Anderlecht now 2-1 down away at Malaga that will be enough to send the Russian side into the Europa League.

    Lastly, things are very much as they were in Group D, with Borussia Dortmund and Real Madrid both ahead.

  34. 2122: 

    Dortmund make a switch, with highly sought-after striker Robert Lewandowski now on in place of the goalscorer Julian Schieber.

  35. 2120: 

    There are 12 minutes left - it's one-way traffic in Athens, with Arsenal hanging on, while it's a bit more end-to-end in Dortmund. Maicon has been pushed forwards from right-back now.

  36. 2118: 

    Manchester City are having a go - Maicon puts in a very good cross from the right but Dortmund are able to get it away. Mario Balotelli then dithers on the ball and is shoved to the ground. The German crowd are not Balotelli fans it's fair to say.

  37. 2116: 

    Dominik Ral on Twitter: "Glad City are out. If we had got the Europa League spot it would've been completely undeserved. Absolutely dire."

    Ben Johnson on Twitter: "I think if you start blaming Joe Hart for City's problems then there's absolutely no excuses left."

    James Earl on Twitter: "Man City clearly want to win the Premier League - they obviously don't care about Europe. As they say, you can't do well in both."

  38. 2116:  
    Pat Nevin in Athens for BBC Radio 5 live

    "You can't possibly say you're surprised - Olympiakos have been in complete control. They have been so dominant in this second half that Arsenal have barely been beyond the edge of their own box. I think Szczesny was expecting a touch on that shot. The touch didn't come, and the ball's now in the back of the net. It may sound harsh, but that is a mistake from Szczesny. You can't wait like that - you've got to follow the flight of the ball."

    Listen to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  39. 2114: 
    GOAL- Olympiakos 2-1 Arsenal - Kostas Mitroglou (73 mins)

    He's only been on the field for about two minutes, but substitute Kostas Mitroglou puts Olympiakos ahead with a wonderfully-placed bending shot from 20 yards after turning away from his man. Placed that, one bounce and in to the side-netting. Fine finish.

  40. 2113: 

    We are into the last 20 minutes. That's 20 minutes of Manchester City's campaign by the looks of it.

  41. 2111: 

    Another cross, another meltdown in the Arsenal defence. The ball is whipped in from the right, Carl Jenkinson is daydreaming at the back post and Rafik Djebbour gets there ahead of him but heads wide from six yards. massive chance for Olympiakos.

  42. 2109: 

    A moment of quality from Carlos Tevez for Manchester City, who runs at the Dortmund defence and somehow ploughs through the challenges of three defenders to get his shot away. Again though, Roman Wedenfeller makes the save.

  43. 2108:  
    Pat Nevin in Athens for BBC Radio 5 live

    "Crosses, simple crosses into the box, unsettle Arsenal. It was a nothing ball into there, but they totally and utterly panicked. Arsene Wenger is furious down there, but his defence haven't been able to clear balls. They have looked weak defensively from the simplest of creative movements."

    Listen to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  44. 2108: 

    Manchester City turn to Mario Balotelli - the man who earned a draw against Dortmund with a late penalty a few months ago - as he comes on for Edin Dzeko.

  45. 2105: 
    GOAL- Olympiakos 1-1 Arsenal - Giannis Maniatis (65 mins)

    Touch of controversy about this one. First, Paulo Machado sends in a free header which hits the post on its way out. The officials give a corner, but Arsenal keeper Wojciech Szczesny is adamant he hasn't touched it. The corner is cleared, but Djamel Abdoun crosses back in, Jernade Meade's lack of height causes an issue and the ball runs on to Giannis Maniatis, who smashes in off the post.

  46. 2103: 

    Andrey Arshavin goes close to a second for Arsenal, running on to a flick and lashing in a volley which is heading for the top corner until Roy Carroll makes the save.

  47. 2103: 

    Mohammed Danyal on Twitter: "The queen of Schieber has struck!"

    Sean Sonnekus on Twitter: "What is Joe Hart doing there? He just watched the ball... it was as though it was slow motion all the way."

    Shane McMenemy on Twitter: "That was coming. Dortmund have been by far the better team. City don't seem bothered about a Europa League spot."

  48. 2102: 

    Oh, and Julian Schieber has a great chance to double Dortmund's lead. He is in on goal but, with maybe a bit too much confidence coursing through his veins after that goal, he goes for an outlandish chip and Joe Hart catches it. We've all been there on a computer game...

  49. 2059: 
    GOAL- Borussia Dortmund 1-0 Man City - Julian Schieber (57 mins)

    Dortmund lead, and deservedly so. Half-time substitute Jakub Blaszczykowski makes it with an absolutely brilliant cross from the right, which cuts out Joe Hart and Vincent Kompany perfectly, allowing stand-in striker Julian Schieber to slide in and net from close range.

  50. 2059: 

    Manchester City make a change, with Scott Sinclair's Champions League debut coming to an end, he is replaced by Sergio Aguero.

  51. 2058: 

    Infostrada Sports on Twitter: "Kaka scores his 28th goal to become Brazilian top scorer in the Champions League. He surpasses Rivaldo."

  52. 2056: 

    Magnificent technique here as Dortmund forward Ivan Perisic watches a crossfield pass right on to his laces and arcs a volley on goal from 20 yards. Joe Hart is alert to tip it over the bar, and then has to make a much better save to get down and keep out a drive from Kevin Grosskreutz. Dortmund on top.

  53. 2055:  
    Pat Nevin in Athens for BBC Radio 5 live

    "Meade is a full-back who's not really a full-back, you know. He's a winger who's been converted..."

    Listen to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  54. 2055: 

    A straight knockout European Cup competition? It would never happen...

  55. 2054: 

    Owen Gray on Twitter: "Rosicky is Arsenal's Anderson. As soon as everyone gets their hopes up, injured."

    Edward Gardner on Twitter: "Dull tonight due to the use of head to head records and not goal difference. Goal difference would mean Dortmund would need to win."

    Phil Broeders on Twitter: "This why the Champions League should be straight knockout. So many nothing games tonight as all was done and dusted last week."

  56. 2053: 

    Borussia Dortmund almost sneak ahead as Mats Hummels creeps in at the back stick to get his toe on a Marcel Schmelzer free-kick but he can't quite get there.

  57. 2051: 

    He's still got it - Real Madrid skipper for the night Kaka rolls back the years with a peach of a goal, gliding away from a defender in his own unique style before pinging a left-footed curler in off the angle of post and crossbar from 25 yards. Magical.

  58. 2051: 

    Opta tweets: "Arsenal have never kept a clean sheet in five away trips to Greece in the Champions League, and only 1 in 11 home or away v Greek sides."

  59. 2051: 

    Andrey Arshavin has gone out to a station on the left for Arsenal, with Gervinho coming to the right and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain going into the middle. Marouane Chamakh then flicks on a header but it's a regulation save for former Manchester United keeper Roy Carroll.

  60. 2049: 

    Manchester City have a sniff of an early chance, as Edin Dzeko meets a Samir Nasri cross but can't generate any power in his header and Roman Weidenfeller makes the catch with ease.

  61. 2048: 

    Dortmund also made a change at the break, with Poland captain Jakub Blaszczykowski coming on in place of Marco Reus.

  62. 2047: 
    KICK-OFF- Borussia Dortmund 0-0 Man City

    And we are back in play in Germany as well now.

  63. 2047: 

    Sam Woods on Twitter: "Chamakh and Gervinho. Two shocking haircuts, two shocking players."

    Robert Hamilton on Twitter: "I don't understand the criticism of Chamakh: he's won headers, defended well from set pieces and made good runs all game."

    DA on Twitter: "Quiet Champs League Tuesday... I know, let's add another 32 mediocre, unwatchable teams from around Europe to spice it up. Brilliant!"

  64. 2047: 
    KICK-OFF- Olympiakos 0-1 Arsenal

    Under way in Greece...

  65. 2046: 

    You couldn't make it up. Tomas Rosicky has picked up an injury in that first half, so Andrey Arshavin is on for the second half for Arsenal.

  66. 2045: 

    So as it stands, Arsenal win their group, and Manchester City are out of Europe altogether. They have 45 minutes to sort that one out...

  67. 2042: 

    Steve Huish in Kingston on 81111 on text: "People need to understand how difficult City's group is... Would United have qualified in this group?"

    Alex from Bangor on 81111 on text: "Tonight is a good argument for changing the format of the competition, no one has anything to play for."

  68. 2039: 

    I did Manchester City goalkeeper Joe Hart a disservice a few minutes ago by the way, he made a cracking save to tip that Marco Reus shot onto the post. Full-length, fingertip job.

  69. 2037: 

    I've just seen the snow which has held up the game in Zagreb - good grief. That would bring an English city to a halt for weeks, never mind a football match. Proper snow.

    They are back playing though after clearing the lines.

  70. 2035: 

    Andy Lum in Manchester on 81111 on text: "Great to have Rosicky back. Looking sharp and confident, will add much needed options to the side, so long as he stays fit!"

    Lewis from Glasgow on 81111 on text: "Gervinho, Chamakh and sadly Ramsey not good enough for Arsenal. Painful and embarrassing to watch them dither and falter."

  71. 2034: 

    Half-time across Europe, and the most significant scoreline is in Milan. Zenit are a goal to the good thanks to a 35th minute strike from Danny, and with Anderlecht a goal behind in Spain to table-topping Malaga the Belgians are heading out and Zenit are going into the Europa League.

    Real Madrid are now two goals up at home to Ajax in Group D, while it's Paris Saint-Germain 1-1 Porto, which means the Portuguese will win the group.

  72. 2032:  
    Pat Nevin in Athens for BBC Radio 5 live

    "I think Arsenal will be quite pleased that they are one up, because for the first 25 minutes they didn't deserve to be. I cannot believe this will finish 1-0, because I'm not awfully impressed by either defence."

    Listen to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  73. 2031: 
    HALF-TIME- Borussia Dortmund 0-0 Man City

    BBC Sport's Chris Bevan reports: "With Ajax trailing by two goals in Madrid, Manchester City know a Europa League spot is there for the taking against what is a shadow Dortmund side. They have not looked much like grabbing it so far, though, with a bouncing Edin Dzeko shot their only real effort on goal in a low-key first half."

  74. 2030: 
    HALF-TIME- Olympiakos 0-1 Arsenal

    BBC Sport's David Ornstein reports: "Dangerous in attack, vulnerable at the back - it's a familiar story for Arsenal. But so far so good in Athens because they lead through Tomas Rosicky's strike and with Schalke drawing at Montpellier, the Gunners could yet finish top of Group B."

  75. 2029: 

    Flurry of activity in Germany as first Dortmund go close, Ivan Perisic curling a shot from 20 yards which Joe Hart gets across to easily save. City then break away but Edin Dzeko is unable to link up with Carlos Tevez, not for the first time tonight.

  76. 2028: 

    That's Tomas Rosicky's first goal since 6 March, when he scored against AC Milan in the Champions League. A really good goal as well, all credit to Gervinho for getting his head up and picking the right pass.

  77. 2028: 

    Former Manchester United and City goalkeeper Peter Schmeichel tweets: "Balotelli or Mancini.... who looks the least happy?"

  78. 2027: 

    Olympiakos almost threaten an equaliser straight away, as Paulo Machado gets clear on the right and cuts a dangerous cross back, but Arsenal see it out.

    Pat Nevin, In Athens for BBC Radio 5 live

    "It's taken a little while but someone finally for Arsenal has chosen the correct final pass. Gervinho went down the line, showed his pace, then came back inside and passed it back. He was looking for Rosicky who didn't miss, and somewhat against the run of play Arsenal are one up."

    Listen to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  80. 2023: 
    GOAL- Olympiakos 0-1 Arsenal - Tomas Rosicky (38 mins)

    Gervinho has been making the wrong choice time and again so far in this game, but after a mazy dribble on the right-hand side of the box this time he picks out Tomas Rosicky running in on the edge of the box, and the Czech midfielder slams home confidently. Lovely goal.

  81. 2022: 

    Oooh, very close to the opener in Germany, as Marco Reus takes aim from the edge of the box and smacks the post.

  82. 2018: 

    Lovely effort from Edin Dzeko, as the Manchester City striker lets fly from 30 yards . It is dipping and swerving in the air, but Dortmund keeper Roman Weidenfeller gets down sharply to make the save.

  83. 2018: 

    John in Manchester on 81111 on text: "United took five years to make it big in the Champions League but had to cope with the 'foreigners' rule decimating the team. City don't have that problem, or that excuse."

    Gary from Belfast on 81111 on text: "Amazing how so many people do not rate Gareth Barry. You don't start 30+ league games for the champions unless you have something. The simple fact is that City play better when Barry plays."

    Ben on 81111 on text: "Seen Jernade Meade a few times - looks very promising. Arsenal do produce some very good left-backs. And buy some very bad ones."

  84. 2015: 

    Javi Garcia is booked for Manchester City for a body check - and he will now be suspended for City's next game in Europe. That could be in the Europa League, but at the moment it will be something to worry about next season.

  85. 2014: 

    Very few goals to report across Europe... just the two, in fact. Ronaldo's strike at the Bernabeu has been added to by Jose Maria Callejon to put Real Madrid 2-0 up at home to Ajax.

    That works for Man City, but the goalless rest of the continent plays into the hands of Zenit, who currently will qualify for the Europa League.

  86. 2012: 

    Olympiakos are certainly on top at the moment, with Arsenal looking jittery at the back. Tomas Rosicky then makes an uncharacteristically rash challenge but escapes without a booking.

  87. 2011:  
    Pat Nevin in Athens for BBC Radio 5 live

    "Arsenal's weakness is clearly that they aren't good in the air. Olympiakos think they've got the jump on them from every corner or free-kick. They really haven't got it covered right now, and it's causing them all sorts of problems."

    Listen to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  88. 2009: 

    Manchester City are next to mount a good attack, with Samir Nasri playing a gem of a pass into the path of Edin Dzeko, who cuts it across goal but it is cleared from the toes of Carlos Tevez. Opening up a bit in Dortmund now.

  89. 2008: 

    Marouane Chamakh is involved again as Arsenal attack, but they dither on the edge of the box and the ball is lost.

    Olympiakos mount a swift counter and Djamel Abdoun is able to get a shot off which forces Wojciech Szczesny into a spawling save.

  90. 2007: 

    Infostrada Sports tweets: "Ronaldo scores his 61st goal of the year 2012 for club and country, one more than his previous best in 2011."

  91. 2006:  
    Pat Nevin in Athens for BBC Radio 5 live

    "It's incredible, really, with the talent that Arshavin has got, that he's not getting a chance at all. It's 99% his own fault, because he's looked out of shape or even, frankly, not interested, I've sometimes also felt that about Rosicky, but he looks up for it tonight."

    Listen to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  92. 2005: 

    Olympiakos go close to an opener in Greece, with Pablo Contreras heading down from a corner only to see Tomas Rosicky hack it away off the line. It's a pretty open game in Athens.

  93. 2004: 

    Over in Group A, the match between Dinamo Zagreb and Dynamo Kiev has been halted after around 11 minutes because of snow.

    Referee Stanislav Todorov led both teams off the pitch in the Croatian capital with heavy snow falling.

  94. 2003: 

    Oh dear Aaron Ramsey. Oh dear, oh dear.

    Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain beats his man and puts in a good cross to the back post, Marouane Chamakh guides his header back in to Ramsey's path, but the Welsh midfielder completely fluffs his lines and the ball hits his shins. An embarrassing miss.

  95. 2000: 

    Dave Blagg on Twitter: "Chamakh is a poor man's 2012 Torres..."

    Aaron Nathaniel on Twitter: "Do Arsenal fans honestly expect a team half full of flops to do anything but flop tonight?"

    Daniel Hesse on Twitter: "Is Barry playing the Silva role? Dodgy against any team but Dortmund's technical ability will make him look Sunday League."

  96. 2000: 

    Some good news for Manchester City though, as Cristiano Ronaldo puts Real Madrid 1-0 up at home to Ajax.

    If City win and Ajax fail to win, City are in the Europa League. So they're halfway there.

  97. 1958: 

    Dortmund have their first real attack. A cross from the left is half cleared and Oliver Kirch rattles in a shot from the edge of the box which Joe Hart saves easily. That has woken up the home fans though who are now in great voice. City applying themselves well in the early stages though.

  98. 1955: 

    You can tell most of the Champions League groups are done and dusted - we are goalless across Europe after 10 minutes.

    Djamel Abdoun then breaks clear for Olympiakos, but his cross is cut out and Thomas Vermaelen clears away. Goals look likely in Greece.

  99. 1955: 

    Sunderland midfielder Lee Cattermole tweets: "Watching Dortmund v City. I'll go home win and 2-0..."

  100. 1954: 

    Jernade Meade may be just about the smallest player I've ever seen, but he shows some fine composure and some neat touches to wriggle out of a dangerous situation in his own half. Arsenal then find Marouane Chamakh with a raking pass but the Moroccan again frustrates, under-cooking a simple pass and the move breaks down.

  101. 1951: 

    Olympiakos popping the ball around nicely now, but Arsenal break sharply. Gervinho plays in Marouane Chamakh inside the area but he can't get his shot away, and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain hammers the loose ball out of play for a throw on the far side. Frustrating again from Chamakh.

  102. 1949:  
    Pat Nevin in Athens for BBC Radio 5 live

    "This is a lively start from Arsenal. Gervinho got past his full-back early on, but absolutely nailed what has been his problem ever since he joined Arsenal. Great pace, but where was the final ball?"

    Listen to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  103. 1949: 

    Manchester City have started very brightly. Scott Sinclair beats his man nicely on the left but his cross is well cut out. Matija Nastasic has lined up at left-back, with Joleon Lescott in the middle. I expected them to be the other way round - but what do I know? Nothing.

  104. 1946: 

    Arsenal have the first shot of the night, as Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain weaves into the area and finds Gervinho, but the Ivorian shoots wide.

    Jernade Meade, by the way, is tiny. The number 53 on his shirt takes up his whole back.

  105. 1946: 

    Fqiren on Twitter: "If there's ever a time for Squillaci, Chamakh and Arshavin to prove their worth, it has to be tonight. Come on Gunners!"

    Robert Hamilton on Twitter: "Arshavin to silence everyone with an outstanding game today. He only ever gets five minutes but he always looks dangerous."

    Mark G on Twitter: "Rosicky back like a Phoenix from the flames. He could be vital tonight - really classy player but so hampered by injury."

  106. 1945: 

    We are under way in Germany and in Greece.

  107. 1944: 
    Olympiakos v Arsenal (1945 GMT)

    Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger: "We want to win every time but it's a difficult place to come. We have an opportunity tonight. Last year we were top of the group, this year we want to finish top and therefore we have to win the game. We want always to give our best, and the players will try to do that.

    "It's a team with experience in midfield and up front. At the back we have one or two young players, but overall we have a competitive team. What you want as a player is the chance to show you can play at the top level, and they have it tonight. The big incentive is to always to do your job well and for us to do our job well is to finish top of the group. Never expect an opponent to be easy with you, especially not in Greece."

  108. 1942: 

    Manchester City's players are out on the pitch at the Westfalenstadion - where they are greeted by a mammoth mural behind the goal. The fans hold up black and yellow cards to make up Dortmund's BvB logo - a stunning sight.

  109. 1941: 

    Sam in Manchester on 81111 on text: "United to buy Wesley Sneijder. We need some creativity in the midfield with Anderson always injured. A new centre back too please, Fergie! ."

    Jonah from London on 81111 on text: "Arsenal need Huntelaar, a left-back and a keeper. We really need some strength in depth."

    Mark in Watford on 81111 on text: "I don't get people saying that it takes time to get used to the Champions League. Chelsea managed fine..."

  110. 1938: 

    So we are less than 10 minutes away from kick-off. Can Manchester City end this disappointing campaign on a high?

  111. 1937:  
    BBC Radio 5 live

    The Everton captain Phil Neville has told 5 live Sport that he believes Jose Mourinho could become the next manager of Manchester United when Sir Alex Ferguson steps down. However, Neville believes that Ferguson will continue at Old Trafford for "the next two or three years".

    Hear all the build-up to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  112. 1934: 
    Borussia Dortmund v Man City (1945 GMT)

    Speaking ahead of kick-off at the Westfalenstadion, Manchester City boss Roberto Mancini says his team selection for tonight's game with Borussia Dortmund has nothing to do with Sunday's crunch derby with their neighbours and title rivals Manchester United. "We think about only this match and after we have five days to think about the derby," Mancini said.

    Summer signing Scott Sinclair, only a fringe player for City so far this season, comes in for his Champions League debut and Mancini is keen for him to impress. "I am sorry for him. He is a good guy who works very well," Mancini added. "This is his second chance and I hope he can play a good game."

  113. 1933: 

    Those sides progressing from Groups A-D to the knockout stages of the Champions League have already been decided: we'll see Porto, Paris Saint-Germain, Schalke, Arsenal, Malaga, AC Milan, Borussia Dortmund and Real Madrid in the next stage of the competition in 2013.

    As far as the Europa League race goes, Group B is already sorted too - Olympiakos are five points clear of bottom-placed Montpellier. Group A's Dynamo Kiev will also finish third, leaving C and D undecided. Zenit are in Milan this evening, Anderlecht are in Spain. The winner takes it all for third place in Group C, while we all know what City must do to finish third in Group D.

  114. 1931: 

    Opta tweets: "Arsenal have the best shooting accuracy (62%) and have converted the highest percentage into goals (26%) in the Champions League this season."

  115. 1929: 

    Dortmund winger Marco Reus scored against City in their meeting in Manchester - and he has scored the first goal of the game in three of his last four Champions League appearances. A real test for that City defence tonight.

  116. 1925: 

    Will Roberto Mancini be given another three years to compete in the Champions League?

  117. 1925:  
    Everton captain Phil Neville on BBC Radio 5 live

    "At Manchester United it took us five years to get into contention in the Champions League, and City are going through that transition now. They have been punished for mistakes they've made because they are trying to play Premier League football in Europe."

    Hear all the build-up to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  118. 1923: 

    Vivek Krishna on Twitter: "City want to avoid such a Group of Death next season? Then qualify for Europa and progress in it, or be in Group of Death again."

    James Steeds on Twitter: "City should really want this Europa League spot - their squad's big enough and they need to learn how to win in Europe."

    Charlie on Twitter: "Re Dan, 18:49: Giroud a key player? He couldn't unlock an advent calendar."

  119. 1920: 

    Manchester City will be very relieved not to see Robert Lewandowski and Mario Gotze in the Dortmund starting XI tonight. I don't know much about Julian Schieber, who starts up front tonight instead, but let's see if he's any good.

    After watching Dortmund destroy City in the flesh the other month, I'd recommend keeping an eye on Ilkay Gundogan in the midfield. He is a superb little player.

  120. 1917:  
    Everton captain Phil Neville on BBC Radio 5 live

    "Arsenal have set such high standards, particularly in the last years of Highbury, and they used to win things. The club is financially in a good way, but this team needs to start winning trophies. At the moment the Gunners are not playing well enough to finish in that top four."

    Hear all the build-up to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  121. 1916: 

    Dortmund had somewhat of a battering of their own to contend with at the weekend, but thanks to some heroics from goalkeeper Roman Weidenfeller, and a late equaliser from Mario Gotze, they picked up a 1-1 draw at Bayern Munich.

    But Bayern remain eight points clear of the Bundesliga, and 11 clear of third-placed Dortmund, with a goal difference of +35. A frightening thought, considering how good Dortmund have looked in Europe this season.

  122. 1915:  
    Pat Nevin in Athens for BBC Radio 5 live

    "Arsene Wenger is always going to get criticism, because he's set such high standards in the past. If you have close look at the Arsenal results in recent times it's just not been to the standard, and they don't have the best standard of team. The new lads that have come in have not quite got to the right level frequently enough. The expectation at Arsenal is top four - 10th in the league? Not good enough."

    Hear all the build-up to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  123. 1911: 

    On the face of it, Manchester City need a distracting run in the Europa League as they attempt to hold on to their Premier League title like they need Michael Johnson to get fit.

    But the reason that City were drawn against Real Madrid and Borussia Dortmund in the first place is that they lack a strong Uefa coefficient. I'm not even going to attempt to describe how that coefficient is worked out, but it's safe to say that winning tonight and staying in Europe can only help matters.

    City were placed in the second pot of eight for the draw of 32 teams in the Champions League group stages this season. They won't want to fall any further down the list...

  124. 1909: 
    Borussia Dortmund v Man City (1945 GMT)

    Manchester City make three changes from the side that were held at home by Everton in the Premier League on Saturday. Matija Nastasic comes into their defence, while Javi Garcia and Scott Sinclair come into midfield for the injured David Silva and suspended Yaya Toure. Sinclair makes his Champions League debut in only his third start since joining City from Swansea in the summer.

    Borussia Dortmund are without defender Neven Subotic and attacking midfielder Mario Gotze, who are both injured, while prolific Polish striker Robert Lewandowski - reportedly a summer target for City's neighbours Manchester United - is on the bench. Julian Schieber starts up front instead.

  125. 1908:  
    Former Arsenal defender Nigel Winterburn on BBC Radio 5 live

    "If Arsenal finish second after tonight that's still fine - we've qualified. I think really they're looking forward to West Brom at the weekend - that's a massive game in the league. They need to start moving up that league very, very quickly to get close to the top four. Arsenal need at least one new centre-forward up front alongside Giroud. He's done well but it's an area where Arsene should be looking to strengthen."

    Hear all the build-up to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  126. 1905: 
    LINE-UPS- Olympiakos v Arsenal (1945 GMT)

    Olympiakos: Carroll, Diakite, Manolas, Contreras, Torosidis, Paulo Machado, Maniatis, Fejsa, Greco, Djebbour, Abdoun. Subs: Megyeri, Ibagaza, Pantelic, Mitroglou, Fetfatzidis, David Fuster, Siovas.

    Arsenal: Szczesny, Jenkinson, Squillaci, Vermaelen, Meade, Coquelin, Rosicky, Ramsey, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Chamakh, Gervinho. Subs: Shea, Arshavin, Angha, Ansah, Hajrovic, Monteiro, Akpom.

    Referee: Alberto Undiano Mallenco (Spain)

  127. 1904: 

    Don't forget to let me know who you want your club to buy next month, and why.

    To start you off on your transfer tittle-tattle trail, the news coming in this afternoon is that Fernando Llorente, the very handy indeed target man of Athletic Bilbao, has announced he will leave on a free transfer in the summer.

    "Yes, I'm leaving on June 30," he said. "I want to try other things."

    Juventus are in the queue by all accounts, but I'm sure plenty of Premier League teams will be having a word with his agent in the next few weeks.

    Get yourself to Sixfields Fernando. You could form a phenomenal lower-league partnership with Adebayo Akinfenwa...

  128. 1902: 
    Olympiakos v Arsenal (1945 GMT)

    The suggestion that Arsenal are in "fantastic shape" on and off the pitch may have raised eyebrows, but Arsene Wenger admits "this game comes at a good time" for his side because "we have less pressure - we are already through to the last 16".

    It is almost a year to the day since Olympiakos beat the Gunners 3-1 and coach Leonardo Jardim says "we would like to repeat that result. Our first goal is to win".

  129. 1902: 

    Paul on 81111 on text: "Finish second in the group and possibly get Barca or Dortmund etc. Win the group and you could get Real Madrid. Makes no difference this year."

    Vince in London on 81111 on text: "Scott Sinclair - a prime example of it is better to be a big fish in a little pond."

    ARM on 81111 on text: "Let's hope Sinclair performs better tonight than his missus did in the Bushtucker Trials..."

  130. 1859: 
    Borussia Dortmund v Man City (1945 GMT)

    Manchester City manager Roberto Mancini is adamant that his side want to be in the Europa League rather than crash out of European competition altogether. "It will be difficult because in the Europa League you play Thursdays so you don't have a lot of rest before Premier League matches," Mancini said. "But we must try to play in the Europa League - we need to stay in Europe."

    While City's Champions League campaign has been a disaster, Borussia Dortmund's has been a delight. The German side will finish top whatever tonight's result and their coach Juergen Klopp, who was in Mancini's shoes when his side finished bottom of their group last season, is pretty pleased with the turnaround. "Great, sensational, fantastic," Klopp said when asked how he would describe their Euro displays so far. "What can I say? I didn't think it would be this good."

  131. 1858: 
    LINE-UPS- Borussia Dortmund v Man City (1945 GMT)

    Borussia Dortmund: Weidenfeller, Kirch, Hummels, Felipe Santana, Schmelzer, Grosskreutz, Gundogan, Leitner, Reus, Perisic, Schieber. Subs: Langerak, Lewandowski, Blaszczykowski, Piszczek, Amini, Gunter, Bittencourt.

    Man City: Hart, Maicon, Kompany, Lescott, Nastasic, Barry, Javi Garcia, Nasri, Tevez, Sinclair, Dzeko. Subs: Pantilimon, Zabaleta, Aguero, Nimely, Balotelli, Meppen-Walter, Evans.

    Referee: Milorad Mazic (Serbia)

  132. 1857: 

    Andrey Arshavin is joined on the Arsenal bench by some very inexperienced names. James Shea, Martin Angha, Zak Ansah, Sead Hajrovic, Elton Monteiro and Chuba Akpom make up the squad tonight. Spot the odd one out...

  133. 1854: 
    Olympiakos v Arsenal (1945 GMT)

    Sebastien Squillaci makes his first start for Arsenal since the FA Cup game against Leeds on 9 January. The last time he featured for the Gunners - against Sunderland in the same competition on 18 February - he came off the bench on 10 minutes and was substituted after 53.

    It's a big night for Luton-born Jernade Meade, who played his first game for Arsenal at the age of 11 and came on as a substitute at the Capital One Cup win at Reading earlier this season.

    The surprise omission from Arsene Wenger's team is Andrey Arshavin - the out-of-favour Russia international can only manage a place on the bench.

  134. 1853:  
    BBC Radio 5 live

    Andy Brassell, European football expert, on 5 live Drive: "Real Madrid are out of form at the moment and are 11 points off the top of their domestic league. That could give them an advantage in the Champions League, because there is not the pressure on Jose Mourinho to mount a double challenge both domestically and in Europe. He can concentrate on the Champions League, and he was brought to Madrid to win that."

    Hear all the build-up to tonight's action live on BBC Radio 5 live right now.

  135. 1853: 
    Borussia Dortmund v Man City (1945 GMT)

    BBC Sport's Chris Bevan reports: "Manchester City's second Champions League campaign has been a chastening experience, but at least they still have something to play for - Roberto Mancini's men have been utterly unconvincing in Group D but a Europa League place remains within their reach.

    "To have a chance of finishing in third place they must beat a Borussia Dortmund side that are already guaranteed to finish top and are without some of the stars that were so impressive at the Etihad Stadium in October. Even so, City - without the injured David Silva - know they will not get an easy ride. The Westfalenstadion will be jumping too."

  136. 1851: 
    Olympiakos v Arsenal (1945 GMT)

    BBC Sport's David Ornstein reports: "They may be struggling in the Premier League but Arsenal are through to the Champions League knockout stage with a game to spare - now it's about where they finish in Group B. For the third time in four years, the Gunners travel to Olympiakos in their final pool game. The Greeks won the previous two, are unbeaten in domestic competition this season and will fancy their chances against a much-changed Arsenal side."

  137. 1849: 

    Dan Wilkinson on Twitter: "Wenger insists Arsenal must win tonight but then rests key players like Wilshere, Cazorla and Giroud? Bit of a mixed message."

    Greg Alexander on Twitter: "Sinclair isn't starting by choice. Mancini's been forced to play him through all the injuries/suspensions!"

    Ashley Hall on Twitter: "Don't forget the JPT! Come on Oxford!"

  138. 1849: 
    Olympiakos v Arsenal (1945 GMT)

    Having left a number of first-team regulars at home, Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger makes seven changes from Saturday's defeat by Swansea. Jernade Meade, 20, starts his first game for the club at left-back as Marouane Chamakh is supported by Gervinho and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain in attack.

    A host of potential debutants are on the bench.

    Kostas Mitroglou scored against Arsenal at Emirates Stadium but he is replaced by Rafik Djebbour, with Paulo Machado also likely to pose a threat.

  139. 1848: 

    Arsenal may be through, but they do have something at stake tonight.

    They need a win to have a chance of claiming first place in Group B. Schalke, meanwhile, travel to Montpellier knowing a win will ensure they finish top.

    Olympiakos, third with six points, are guaranteed a place in the Europa League, regardless of the outcome of the final round of fixtures.

  140. 1847:  
    BBC Radio 5 live

    If you are in a position to get near a radio this evening, then you are in luck my friends.

    There is live commentary of Olympiakos v Arsenal from Ian Dennis and Pat Nevin tonight from 1945, while before the game Mark Pougatch will be joined in the studio by Everton captain Phil Neville.

    Simon Brotherton will be providing updates from Borussia Dortmund v Manchester City as well. You're covered.

  141. 1845: 
    BREAKING TEAM NEWS- Borussia Dortmund v Man City (1945 GMT)

    Scott Sinclair is handed a rare start for Manchester City, while Joleon Lescott looks like he is playing at left-back.

  142. 1844: 

    There are also seven games tonight in the Johnstone's Paint Trophy. A win tonight would put the teams within three games of a Wembley final. Not to be sniffed at.

    I won't be bringing you updates as such - but you can keep across the scores in our live scores pages.

  143. 1841: 
    BREAKING TEAM NEWS- Olympiakos v Arsenal (1945 GMT)

    Left-back Jernade Meade makes his full debut in a much-changed Arsenal team. There are also starts for defender Sebastien Squillaci, midfielder Francis Coquelin and striker Marouane Chamakh.

  144. 1840: 

    So then, it's time for your opinions on all things football.

    Why haven't Manchester City made it through the group stages again? Do City fans want another Europa League campaign or not? What needs to change - if anything - at Arsenal? Who do we think will win this year's Champions League? Are Dortmund good enough to challenge?

    And, with the January transfer window hovering over the horizon, tell me who your club should buy and why.

    Text us on 81111 (UK Only), or Tweet us using the hashtag #bbcfootball. Lovely stuff.

  145. 1838: 

    Arsenal, meanwhile, have the luxury of already securing their place in the knockout stages for the 13th year in a row ahead of tonight's game in Greece.

    But all is not well in the Gunners' camp. Manager Arsene Wenger is facing some serious heat for perhaps the first time after the 2-0 defeat to Swansea at the weekend sealed the club's worst start to a Premier League season under him.

  146. 1836: 

    City's 1-1 draw with Real Madrid last time out ended their hopes of qualifying from Group D, so it is Europa or bust now.

    Roberto Mancini's side need to beat group winners Borussia Dortmund in Germany and hope Ajax fail to win in Madrid to finish third and make the Europa League.

    Not impossible - but anyone who remembers how busy Dortmund kept Joe Hart in the first game between the sides will know that this is a tough, tough ask.

  147. 1830: 

    When Roberto Mancini saw his Manchester City side placed in a tough Group D at the glitzy Champions League draw in Monaco at the end of August, he must have put a big red ring around today's date in his leather-bound filofax.

    Dortmund away on 4 December. It looked like it could be a pivotal match in City's season, as the champions of England attempted to make it big on the European stage.

    And so it is all a bit of an anti-climax as City head to the Westfalenstadion this evening with nothing to play for but a barely wanted place in the Europa League. Can they make it through to the big Thursday-night action? We're about to find out...

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4 Dec 2012 23:59 UK

Champ Lge Group A table snapshot

As it stood on 4 Dec 2012 23:59 UK

Position Team P GD PTS
1 Paris SG 6 11 15
2 FC Porto 6 6 13
3 Dynamo Kiev 6 -4 5
4 Din Zagreb 6 -13 1

Champ Lge Group B table snapshot

As it stood on 4 Dec 2012 23:59 UK

Position Team P GD PTS
1 Schalke 04 6 4 12
2 Arsenal 6 2 10
3 Olympiakos 6 0 9
4 Montpellier 6 -6 2

Champ Lge Group C table snapshot

As it stood on 4 Dec 2012 23:59 UK

Position Team P GD PTS
1 Malaga 6 7 12
2 AC Milan 6 1 8
3 Zenit St P'sbg 6 -3 7
4 Anderlecht 6 -5 5

Champ Lge Group D table snapshot

As it stood on 4 Dec 2012 23:59 UK

Position Team P GD PTS
1 Borussia Dortmund 6 6 14
2 Real Madrid 6 6 11
3 Ajax 6 -8 4
4 Man City 6 -4 3

Champ Lge Group E table snapshot

As it stood on 4 Dec 2012 23:59 UK

Position Team P GD PTS
1 Shakhtar Donetsk 5 5 10
2 Juventus 5 7 9
3 Chelsea 5 1 7
4 Nordsjaelland 5 -13 1

Champ Lge Group F table snapshot

As it stood on 4 Dec 2012 23:59 UK

Position Team P GD PTS
1 Bayern Munich 5 5 10
2 Valencia 5 6 10
3 BATE Borisov 5 -3 6
4 Lille 5 -8 3

Champ Lge Group G table snapshot

As it stood on 4 Dec 2012 23:59 UK

Position Team P GD PTS
1 Barcelona 5 6 12
2 Benfica 5 0 7
3 Celtic 5 0 7
4 Spartak Moscow 5 -6 3

Champ Lge Group H table snapshot

As it stood on 4 Dec 2012 23:59 UK

Position Team P GD PTS
1 Man Utd 5 4 12
2 Galatasaray 5 0 7
3 CFR Cluj-Napoca 5 1 7
4 Braga 5 -5 3