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Live text commentary as West Brom and West Ham draw after Spurs beat Swansea and Chelsea are beaten in the Club World Cup final.

16 December 2012 Last updated at 18:14 GMT

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  1. 1813: 

    Right, that's it for the day's football. Not the most memorable one perhaps, but that could be a distant memory come tomorrow, when Reading face Arsenal. I'll be talking you through that one, so I can't quite decide whether I'm in favour of a repeat of the Capital One Cup tie, which finished 7-5 to the Gunners, or not.

    And while today's football might not have been of the highest standard, BBC Sports Personality promises to bring you the very best of the year's action. Join our live text. Enjoy.


    Andrew Wright on Twitter: "West Ham are just a poor man's Stoke... Lump, hoof and wrestle for 90 minutes...."


    Olawale on Twitter: "Now I can't wait to hear what the experts have got to say on MOTD2 tonight... interesting talking points."

  4. 1807: 

    A reminder that 606 is starting now on BBC Radio 5 live. Have your say on all the weekend's action with Alan Green.

  5. 1806: 

    West Brom midfielder James Morrison, speaking on Sky Sports: "We created half-chances but they did not fall for us. West Ham deserve some credit as they frustrated us and we struggled to break them down."


    Lee Cotterell on Twitter: "Awful game and feel for the neutrals watching that but will take a point at The Hawthorns!"

    Ali Zubaidi on Twitter: "West Brom's early season form has faded. I can't see them getting into Europe but they'll probably fit into the top half."

  7. 1805: 

    West Brom's Chris Brunt, speaking on Sky Sports: "I think in the first half we were a bit sloppy and in the second half we couldn't break through. A point takes us off that losing streak. We've not had too many clean sheets of late but we're disappointed we did not take all three points. I think the way we've played we should be kicking on. Hopefully that can push us on going into Christmas."

  8. 1804:  
    MOTD's Alistair Mann at The Hawthorns:

    "I'm sure West Ham manager Sam Allardyce would have settled for a point with all his absentees. West Brom were frustrated on an afternoon of few opportunities when the Hammers probably did enough to earn a point."


    From Graham in Norwich, via text: "Good result for West Brom. Only the second time in 12 games they've taken points off a team not in the bottom six."


    Steven Levett on Twitter: "Don't worry, the game between Reading and Arsenal tomorrow will surely have more than 10 goals."

    Rob Gates on Twitter: "Another good result for Hammers, ground out point with depleted squad."

    Omar Askar on Twitter: "Most. Boring. Game. Ever."

  11. 1759: 

    As for West Brom, who stay sixth in the table, they will feel they might have earned all three points during an improved second-half showing, but it would have been harsh on West Ham if they'd left with nothing. The Hammers stay 11th.

  12. 1757: 

    That might not have been the greatest game you'll ever see, but in the scheme of things it's a fine point for West Ham, particularly considering how strong the Baggies are at home.

  13. 1755:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at The Hawthorns

    "The second half was much better. West Brom had chances and they should have put them away - West Ham will be very pleased with the point they've got."

  14. 1753: 
    FULL-TIME- West Brom 0-0 West Ham

    Olawale on Twitter: "The spirit of the game has changed, but the quality remains low."

    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at The Hawthorns

    "You'd certainly say West Ham are settling for that draw and West Brom will be disappointed, they had enough chances."

  17. 1752: 
    YELLOW CARD- Jonas Olsson (West Brom)

    The Baggies defender picks up a booking for dissent.

  18. 1752: 

    West Brom have the ball and are pressing down the right, but West Ham are resisting and the Baggies give away a free-kick. That might just be that.

  19. 1750: 

    Carlton Cole has been isolated for long periods but the striker collects the ball 20 yards out and drills a low shot which Boaz Myhill saves down to his left. This could yet go either way.

  20. 1749: 

    Four minutes of injury time to be played at The Hawthorns.

  21. 1748: 

    But that's a real waste. After some confusion about taking it, Markus Rosenberg hits the ball tamely into the wall. It was never really threatening.

  22. 1746: 

    Peter Odemwingie is causing West Ham all sorts of problems. He draws a foul from Gary O'Neil on the edge of the West Ham box and this is a big chance for the home side.

  23. 1745: 
    YELLOW CARD- James Tomkins (West Ham)

    It's all gone a bit scrappy since those substitutions, but Peter Odemwingie forces a free-kick as he is brought down by James Tomkins, who is booked for the challenge.

  24. 1742: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Markus Rosenberg for Shane Long (West Brom)
  25. 1741: 

    The corner leads to yet another scramble, but still West Brom can't force the ball in.


    Yinka Akinloye on Twitter: "Losing count of how many times West Brom have come close. Anyone one else sensing a West Ham winner?

  27. 1740: 
    SUBSTITUTION- James Tomkins for Guy Demel (West Ham)
  28. 1740: 

    Romelu Lukaku's persistence on the right earns West Brom a corner, but first West Ham will make a change.


    Josh Pain on Twitter: "Wow! West Brom playing some quality stuff! They'll definitely be in Europe next year."

  30. 1738: 

    Carlton Cole outmuscles Gareth McAuley in the West Brom penalty area but the former England striker is penalised for a shirt pull. Cole hasn't had a great deal of service so far, but he looked a threat on the break there.


    Rafeef El Jumaili on Twitter: "Collins has been solid the whole game. Underrated for the Hammers."

  32. 1736: 

    Attacking substitutions from both managers there. I was wondering whether Sam Allardyce would consider sitting back and taking a point, but the West Ham boss has matched his West Brom counterpart Steve Clarke in introducing an attacking player. Just under 15 minutes to go.

  33. 1734: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Modibo Maiga for Matt Jarvis (West Ham)
  34. 1734: 
    SUBSTITUTION- Romelu Lukaku for Zoltan Gera (West Brom)
  35. 1733: 

    From Chris Brunt's resulting corner, James Morrison crashes a header against the bar.

  36. 1733: 

    Guy Demel is struggling to cope with Peter Odemwingie now. The Baggies attacker crosses and the ball breaks to Billy Jones, whose shot is blocked. Youssouf Mulumbu delivers, but the ball is headed out for a corner.

  37. 1730: 

    There are 20 minutes remaining at The Hawthorns and this game is very much in the balance. Romelu Lukaku is warming up energetically for West Brom.

    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at The Hawthorns

    "There were about four shots there, all mis-hit, but the excitement was there! Everything was a goalscoring opportunity for West Brom."

  39. 1728: 

    This game is becoming increasingly end-to-end. West Brom break at pace and a goalmouth scramble ensues. Not the calmest defending, but effective nonetheless.

  40. 1727: 

    West Ham's Mark Noble sends over an enticing free-kick from the right which reaches Joey O'Brien. The former Bolton defender does very well to make a solid contact, but he sends the ball over the bar. That was close.

    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at The Hawthorns

    "Odemwingie is causing a threat down this left-hand side."

    Commentary continues on 5 live.

  42. 1725: 

    Right on cue the Nigerian sends over a cross which Winston Reid has to hook away from five yards out while facing his own goal. The ball skews away for a corner, which West Ham clear.

  43. 1724: 

    Peter Odemwingie is seeing plenty of the ball on the West Brom left and he's having a good battle with Guy Demel. The attacker has supplied several decent crosses but they haven't led to anything. Yet.


    Patrick Brown on Twitter: "Editing my masters dissertation or football? There's only one winner, dissertation editing...."

    Steve Cohen on Twitter: "Every time I hear commentator say Popov I can't help but think about Rentaghost."

    Ellis Hatch on Twitter: "This is the calm before the storm. Just you wait..."

  45. 1721: 

    Zoltan Gera loves a spectacular strike and the Hungarian fizzes a long-range drive towards the West Ham goal, which Jussi Jaaskelainen beats away. Shane Long races in to try to capitalise on the rebound, but the ball bounces awkwardly and he can't make a proper contact.

  46. 1718: 

    And Winston Reid meets the inswinging ball but Gareth McAuley is touch-tight to the Hammers defender, who has no space to do anything other than help it over the bar.

  47. 1717: 

    Now it's West Ham's turn to press. They force a left-wing corner...

  48. 1717: 

    West Ham relieve the pressure with a couple of forays upfield. After Carlton Cole is unable to latch onto a clever pass from deep, Matt Taylor drags a shot wide from distance. At the risk of cursing things, if it carries on like this I'd be surprised if there are no goals.

  49. 1715:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at The Hawthorns

    "It's gone end-to-end this game!"

    Commentary continues on 5 live.

  50. 1714: 

    I don't know that you'd call it a storm, but whatever it is, West Ham will do well to weather this. Much better from West Brom.


    Aaron Crowhurst on Twitter: "Game will finish 3-2 West Ham! Can see a lot of goals to prove all the doubters wrong! you heard it here first!"

  52. 1712: 

    Steve Clarke will be much happier with his side's performance in the early stages of the second half. This time, Zoltan Gera picks out Peter Odemwingie on the left, his cross is cleared to Youssouf Mulumbu and the midfielder drives a shot wide.

  53. 1710: 

    What have the managers said at half-time? Down the other end Gary O'Neil bends a delicious effort towards goal from 20 yards. Boaz Myhill is rooted to the spot but the ball curls inches wide. There is a lot more intensity about this match now.


    From Dave, via text: "Not worth an alliteration Sunday?"

    From Kieran in Manchester, via text: "Snorefest Sunday?

  55. 1708: 

    West Ham survive but you get the sense West Brom got a stern talking-to from Steve Clarke at half-time. In that flurry of corners, James Morrison flicked out a boot and diverted it goalwards, but the ball struck the crossbar. That's comfortably the closest the Baggies have come to scoring.

  56. 1707: 

    And the second half has started in much brighter fashion. West Brom are straight on the attack and have forced four - yes four - early corners.

  57. 1706: 

    Optimism! I told you there had to be some out there somewhere. The last four meetings between these sides have produced 15 goals, so stick with it.


    Andrew Collins on Twitter: "So poor Sunday?"

    Shaun Farrelly on Twitter: "Re 1650 how about Subpar Sunday?"

  59. 1704: 

    And we're back under way...

  60. 1704: 

    The players are back out and we're almost ready for the second half. Surely it can only get better...

  61. 1701: 

    A reminder, too, that there are plenty of incentives for these sides to push forward. Win and West Brom go fifth, while victory will take West Ham up to seventh. That's got to be worth a little attacking intent.

  62. 1659: 

    I think we need a little optimism here. OK, it hasn't been the greatest game, but there have been a few chances here and there. The onus will be on West Brom to push forward after the break, and they've certainly got the players to trouble West Ham. As for the Hammers, a point at The Hawthorns is a thoroughly respectable result, so they'll be pretty happy so far.


    Simon Dewhurst on Twitter: "It's games like this when I wonder why people fork out so much money for Premier League football. Shambolic Sunday!"

    Joe Walton on Twitter: "Big Sam doesn't owe TV viewers entertainment. Pretty poor half of football but unfair to sum up a career in management on that."


    Erik Cummins on Twitter: "WBA vs WH, possibly the worst match I have ever seen at any level. 25 clueless people on the pitch, 22 players and 3 referees."


    Andy Birkett on Twitter: "Well, even as a Hammers fan, I have to say that first half was turgid. West Ham awful going forward."

    Jamie Telkman on Twitter: "Maybe a boring game of football, but I would happily take a point away at West Brom."

  66. 1655:  
    MOTD's Alistair Mann at The Hawthorns:

    "I don't think there's much doubt that it will be West Ham boss Sam Allardyce who is the happier at half-time against a West Brom side lacking a spark. There haven't been too many chances in a game in which defences have been on top."

  67. 1652:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at The Hawthorns

    "For the first 10 minutes people were moving the ball quickly and making themselves available. but slowly that went away. They began to over-hit the ball, with no real thought in terms of what they were trying to build. I don't think either side has imposed themselves on the other. It's as if the players are waiting for something to happen - the basic delivery from free-kicks and set-pieces has been extremely poor."

    The second-half will be live shortly on 5 live.

  68. 1650: 

    What's the opposite of Super Sunday? Any suggestions? And no, we can't print that one.


    Robbie Mullens on Twitter: "What an awful dire dull boring lifeless game of football. Allardyce tactics at its very best!"

    Paul Gibbons on Twitter: "Today's football has been that boring I have considered taking up knitting. Xmas jumper anyone?!"

  70. 1648: 

    Just before the half-time whistle blew, the Hammers had a chance to threaten from a free-kick 30 yards out, but Mark Noble sends it wastefully into Boaz Myhill's arms. That pretty much sums up the match so far.

  71. 1647: 
    HALF-TIME- West Brom 0-0 West Ham

    From Edward Hann on Twitter: "Re Jack in Norwich (1622), you obviously haven't been watching Villa lately, top quality football, Barca-esque."

    Khalid Mohamed on Twitter: "Not many goals today but we've still got Reading v Arsenal tomorrow, wonder if that'll produce much goals..."

  73. 1644: 

    I think West Brom manager Steve Clarke might agree with Graham there. The Scot's demeanour might not give much away, but he doesn't exactly look thrilled.

  74. 1643:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at The Hawthorns

    "We are watching a Premier League game are we? I know they don't do these things on purpose but there is literally no pressure when the players have the ball."

    The commentary continues on 5 live.


    From Neal from Hutton, via text: "There are obviously quite a few people who have made comments about Big Sam and West Ham without ever seeing them play. We were hardly poor against Chelsea and Liverpool or played long balls!"


    From Graeme, via text: "Which West Ham are these comments talking about? Based on this season surely they are good enough to stay up. Regardless of what you think of the style of play they are getting results and are in a good position in the league. There are at least seven other teams more likely to be relegated than West Ham."

  77. 1641: 

    Don't ask me what happens if there hasn't been a goal. My research (ability to read stats given to me) didn't extend that far.

  78. 1640: 

    It's probably not too outlandish of me to suggest a goal before the break could have a significant bearing on this contest. Why? Well, West Brom have won all five league matches in which they have led at half-time this season, but have lost all four in which have they trailed at the break.

  79. 1637: 

    Who needs Andy Carroll? Carlton Cole lashes in a fierce drive from distance which threatens to knock Boaz Myhill over, but the keeper does enough to push the ball clear and his defenders scramble it to safety.

  80. 1635: 

    I'd imagine Sam Allardyce is the happier of the two managers right now. West Ham seem to have found their feet and are gradually coming into the match, while West Brom have been restricted to hopeful shots from distance.


    Carl Longhawn on Twitter: "Who's happier, Wigan fans watching nice football but being 18th or West Ham fans watching hoof ball but being 11th."

    James Boffey on Twitter: "Re Tom Crook (1618) What do you rate Allardyce on then if not his tactics? Gum chewing ability?"

  82. 1633: 

    That's the best chance of the game so far. James Collins nods a corner back across the face of goal into a dangerous area and Winston Reid hooks over from six yards out. If that had fallen to one of the Hammers' attacking players, they might well be ahead.


    Segun Agbaje on Twitter: "Count me out of Match of The Day tonight. Some very terrible stuff."

    Be patient Segun, there's still time.

  84. 1629: 
    YELLOW CARD- Joey O'Brien (West Ham)

    The defender goes into the book for an ill-timed tackle and has no complaints.

  85. 1628: 

    Clever play by Shane Long on the edge of the West Ham penalty area. The Republic of Ireland striker turns away from a tackle with an adept dragback and shoots, but Jussi Jaaskelainen is able to watch it past the post.


    M Honeysuckle on Twitter: "I don't hear about Liverpool being relegated, and they're below West Ham in the table!"

  87. 1626: 

    Ironic cheers from the visiting fans as James Morrison drags a shot wide from distance. They might well scoff, but at least it was an attempt at goal. Sort of, anyway.

  88. 1625: 

    Hmmm, I agree with Graham Taylor. This isn't great at the moment. The early promise has subsided a little.


    From Chris, Hammers fan, via text: "First saw Diame up at Carrow Road against Norwich. He was a bright spark in an otherwise tepid match."

  90. 1622:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at The Hawthorns

    "The intensity of the game has dropped away and there has not been as much passing. They've lost their way - I wouldn't say it was dreary but it's not the best of games."

    West-Brom-West Ham continues live on 5 live.

  91. 1622: 

    Better play from West Ham, who keep possession patiently midway inside the West Brom half before eventually crossing via Guy Demel. But West Brom have the second-best home defensive record in the league, and the Hammers will need to be a bit more creative than that to pierce the Baggies rearguard.


    From Jack in Norwich, via text: "West Ham are one of the poorest sides in the league. It's between them, Villa, QPR, Reading, Sunderland and Wigan."

  93. 1618: 

    West Ham haven't quite got into their stride just yet, understandable since they are missing so many players. I bet Big Sam would love to have Mohamed Diame and Andy Carroll in his side today. And maybe George McCartney too.


    Tom Crook on Twitter: "Although I rate Allardyce, tactical genius he is not. Hoofing the ball for 90 minutes could be done by a donkey."

    Ryan Heatly on Twitter: "West Ham to go down? Whilst this would make me happy, I can't see it happening. I stand firm at Southampton, Reading and QPR."

  95. 1615: 

    Smart play by West Brom there and, although they've now gone nearly four hours without scoring, they're not lacking in creativity. Peter Odemwingie collects the ball 25 yards out after neat interplay and shoots low, but it's straight at Jussi Jaaskelainen.

  96. 1613: 

    But the Northern Irishman's effort crashes straight into the Hammers wall and the visitors clear comfortably enough. West Ham will be well advised not to give West Brom too many of those chances, particularly with Brunt and Zoltan Gera in the home side's ranks.

  97. 1612: 

    Persistent play by James Morrison, typically driving on from midfield, forces a Baggies free-kick around 25 yards out. Chris Brunt looks interested in this one.


    Thomas on Twitter: "West Ham won't go down, there are a lot poorer teams than them."

  99. 1611: 

    I'd be interested to hear from West Ham fans about what you make of Mohamed Diame's contribution this season? The midfielder is missing today through injury but is being consistently linked with a move away, with Arsenal the latest to be linked. How crucial is he and how much will he be missed while he's out?


    From Ian in St Anne's, via text: "Re Tom Fishley (1604) I agree Nolan is a brilliant captain but Big Sam is the key. Neither Blackburn nor Newcastle would have been relegated if they'd kept him. Tactical genius."

  101. 1608: 

    It's easy to see why West Brom have such a good home record this season. There's a decent atmosphere at The Hawthorns and the Baggies look to be full of confidence in front of their own crowd. And why not? They've won six games on their own turf already this term.


    Louis Gray on Twitter: "West Ham to go down, no two ways about it."

  103. 1606: 

    West Ham move up the other end and offer their first threat of the afternoon, Matt Taylor looping a tame header onto the roof of the net. Encouraging signs in the early stages.

    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at The Hawthorns

    "It's been a reasonably lively start, they've both looked to try to get some end product to their moves."

    Live commentary is on 5 live now.

  105. 1604: 

    West Brom have started positively and are the first to pose a threat, but Winston Reid acrobatically heads Chris Brunt's dangerous cross away to safety.


    Tom Bradshaw, via text: "The loss of Diame will hit West Ham hard during the Christmas period. Although it might mean he stays in January."


    Tom Fishley on Twitter: "Don't think West Ham will go down, especially with Nolan at the helm. Perfect captain for that kind of situation."

  108. 1601:  
    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at The Hawthorns

    "I think West Brom will finish above West Ham. Their organisation and the way they've played - the way they've handled the situation - they're easily good enough to finish in the top 10 and I wouldn't be surprised if they finish in the top eight."

    West Brom-West Ham is live on 5 live now.

  109. 1600: 

    We're under way at The Hawthorns...

  110. 1600: 

    Swansea boss Michael Laudrup: "It was a difficult game against a great team. We started well before they put us under pressure. They had a lot of individual pressure. They created a lot of chances but we knew if it was 0-0 at half time we had a great chance. I don't think they created that much after that. We were not at our best offensively. The last 10% we missed but I'm pleased with the performance of my team."

  111. 1559: 

    Spurs boss Andre Villas-Boas on his side's 1-0 win over Swansea: "It was very important and gets us back to fourth place. The table is tight but it was good to give something back to the fans at White Hart Lane."

  112. 1558: 

    What with Chelsea's Club World Cup defeat and Spurs' somewhat low-key victory over Swansea, today's football hasn't quite burst into life just yet. But fear not, the last time West Brom and West Ham met they played out a 3-3 thriller, with the Londoners recovering from 3-0 down at half-time to force a dramatic draw. A repeat of that kind of entertainment would be very welcome.


    Tom Watson on Twitter: "Hey John, u any relation of Hibernian legend Pat Stanton? If so, or even if u just know wat im talkin about, u hav my respect."

    You mean the man who made nearly 400 league appearances for Hibs and, late in his career, had a short spell with Celtic? No.

  114. 1554: 

    A reminder for you all that, after we're done with the day's football, you can relive a brilliant year of sport with the BBC's Sports Personality of the Year show, which includes a comprehensive review of the last 12 months. I wonder if the Spurs-Swansea game will feature?

  115. 1551: 

    West Ham manager Sam Allardyce: "As you can see from our substitutes our squad is depleted by injuries. We are short of players to choose from in this period and the medical staff will work hard to get them back fit."

    Graham Taylor, BBC Radio 5 live at The Hawthorns

    "You have to meet all sorts of situations throughout the season. Every game you start again, whether you won drew or lost the last one. Whatever has happened to either of these teams shouldn't matter - it's all about now."

    You can listen to live commentary of West Brom v West Ham on 5 live now

    BBC Radio 5 live

    West Brom against West Ham is just about to start on 5 live and you can listen to live commentary from Alan Green and Ian Brown, with expert summaries from former England manager Graham Taylor.


    Dan from Malvern, via text: "I'd say West Brom will finish in the top six. It's crowded at the top but every season has its surprise package and West Brom are certainly this season's."


    Antony Vaughan on Twitter: "WBA finish half way, & IMO West Ham could still go down..."

  120. 1547: 

    Let us know your thoughts on the day's final Premier League game, plus any other musings you might have on the weekend's football. You can tweet us using the hashtag #bbcfootball or text in on 81111 (UK only).

  121. 1545: 

    While both sides have started the campaign in encouraging fashion, they have each lost three of their last four matches. Sam Allardyce, of course, has seen it all before, but this winless run represents the first stern test of Steve Clarke's managerial career.

  122. 1543: 

    According to West Ham manager Sam Allardyce, the recent announcement that his club are the preferred bidders for the Olympic Stadium gives the Hammers the opportunity to be "mega in Europe". Their performances this season - in particular wins against Chelsea and away to Newcastle - suggest they are heading in the right direction, though a squad of only 14 fully-fit senior players (the alert among you will have noticed they have named only six substitutes) will be tested to the full today and throughout a hectic Christmas schedule.


    BBC Sport's Gary Lineker preparing for tonight's Sports Personality of the Year programme on BBC One: "Not too distracted with rehearsals to notice that Spurs have grabbed 3 points."


    From Jack in Nuneaton, via text: "What the average Baggies fan wants is to simply finish in the top 10. The talk of European football was always fanciful. We've got to be realistic, see how long it takes us to get 40 points. A draw would be good today."

  125. 1540: 

    And what of West Ham? It's easy to forget the Hammers are in their first season back in the top flight, so easily have they taken to Premier League life since their promotion in the summer. The Hammers are 11th in the league and will go above Arsenal and up to seventh with a victory at The Hawthorns.

  126. 1538: 

    West Brom make two changes from the defeat by Arsenal. Full-backs Billy Jones and Goran Popov both start as Steven Reid and Liam Ridgewell, who came off injured against the Gunners, make way.

    West Ham midfielder Mohamed Diame was forced off through injury in last Sunday's defeat by Liverpool and he is replaced by Gary O'Neil in his side's only change from that game.

    West Brom v West Ham (16:00 GMT)

    West Brom: Myhill, Jones, McAuley, Olsson, Popov, Brunt, Morrison, Mulumbu, Gera, Odemwingie, Long. Subs: Daniels, Rosenberg, Dorrans, Lukaku, Dawson, Tamas, Fortune.

    West Ham: Jaaskelainen, Demel, Reid, Collins, O'Brien, Noble, O'Neil, Jarvis, Nolan, Taylor, Cole. Subs: Spiegel, Tomkins, Maiga, Spence, Moncur, Lletget.

    Referee: Phil Dowd (Staffordshire)

  128. 1535: 

    I, for one, haven't got a clue. Steve Clarke's side may have lost three in a row, but a quick look at the Premier League table tells you a win against West Ham today will send them above Everton, level on points with Chelsea and Spurs and very much looking up once again.

  129. 1532: 

    Right then, hands up who wants to predict where West Brom will finish this season. One minute the Baggies are beating Chelsea to go fourth in the table and their new rookie boss is being named manager of the month, the next they've lost three games in a row and haven't scored in nearly four hours of football. Any takers?

  130. 1531: 

    That is all from me today. I leave you in the very capable hands of Mr John Stanton, who will guide you through West Brom v West Ham. I'll see thee.


    Ross McDonald on Twitter: "Lovely drop of reverse psychology tweeting early doors sees us home. Thank the Lord."

  132. 1531: 

    Swansea's winless run at White Hart Lane extends to 15 games. They have now lost each of their last 11 matches at the ground since a 1-1 draw in November 1930.

  133. 1529: 

    Tottenham move up to fourth in the table and level on points with third-placed Chelsea, who have played a game less. Swansea stay 10th.

  134. 1528:  
    BBC Radio 5 live

    Former Spurs striker Clive Allen at White Hart Lane for 5 live: "They didn't concede, I think that will be the most important thing for AVB, they created chances, they were the better of the two sides and on the overall balance of play Spurs deserved the three points."

  135. 1527:  
    MOTD's Jonathan Pearce at White Hart Lane

    "An important win for Spurs, they weren't at their best but created far more than Swansea who dug in. Controversy at the end as Michu was on the ground from Lloris' punch and tempers blew up."


    Nick Walsh on Twitter: "Shocking refereeing. You HAVE to stop play when there is a head injury. What was Dean playing at? Could have been serious..."

  137. 1526: 
    FULL-TIME- Tottenham 1-0 Swansea
  138. 1525: 

    It is kicking off now as the Swansea players express their unhappiness that Spurs played on with Michu down and the madness spreads to the benches, with Tottenham's Jake Livermore booked for coming onto the pitch.

  139. 1524: 

    Kemy Agustien delivers a free-kick after Jermain Defoe had committed a foul but Tottenham hold firm to clear. The ball is pumped back into the box and Michu is chasing but Hugo Lloris gets there first and knocks the Swansea player clean out. Tottenham break with Michu still down and the whistle blows to halt play just before Andros Townsend draws a good a save out of Gerhard Tremmel.


    Neil Knighton on Twitter: "Scotty Parker!! Give us 5 minutes of your class and we'll be sweet like Tropicana."

  141. 1520: 

    Swansea piling on the late pressure and they force a late corner. Kemy Agustien's delivery is dire, though, and Scott Parker's first touch is to steer the ball away from danger.

  142. 1519: 

    Tottenham's Scott Parker returns for a first appearance since June, replacing Mousa Dembele. The home crowd give him a huge cheer.

  143. 1518: 

    There are going to be five minutes of added time. Tottenham lead 1-0 in the 90th minute. Will that Everton result be in the back of their mind now?

  144. 1516: 

    Jermain Defoe has a chance to finish it for Spurs but he cannot beat Gerhard Tremmel with a shot from inside the area after being put through by Gylfi Sigurdsson. Swansea throw on Danny Graham for Nathan Dyer to try and rescue them a point.


    Davey on Twitter: "Why no mention of the fact replays show Vertonghen was offside when the free kick was taken? Swansea robbed!!!"

    Having just seen a replay, he did look to be just offside when the free-kick was swung over, but not when the ball was flicked on.

  146. 1513: 

    Gylfi Sigurdsson looks to cement Spurs' win but he fires his shot from range way over the goal.


    From Rich in London, via text: "It's great we've gone 1 up, but we still have the 90th minute to go yet. Plenty of time to lose this 2-1."

  148. 1511: 

    Just under 10 minutes to go and Tottenham are leading 1-0. More time is eaten up as Swansea defender Chico throws himself to the ground following a coming together with Aaron Lennon and requires some treatment.


    Ollie Bunting on Twitter: "Tottenham concede a lot in the final 10 this season, as has been pointed out frequently in the last week. Watch this space."

  150. 1508: 

    Unsurprisingly, Tottenham have a renewed vigour after the goal. Andros Townsend breaks away and is felled 25 yards from goal. It is another dangerous free-kick which Jan Vertonghen strikes against Leon Britton, which sends the ball spinning out for a corner, which the visitors are able to clear.


    Tomer Tsur on Twitter: "I cannot describe how much I love Vertonghen's Superman goal celebration."

  152. 1506:  
    BBC Radio 5 live

    Former Spurs striker Clive Allen at White Hart Lane for 5 live: "Stalemate was on the cards but Walker whipped the free kick and for the first time there was uncertainty there, Ben Davies couldn't quite get it and there was Vertonghen to sweep it in right-footed."

  153. 1505: 

    It is often said that you should not make substitutions before a corner. Well, that advice could easily apply to free-kicks. Will Swansea boss Michael Laudrup regret making a change just before Kyle Walker swung over that cross for Vertonghen to finish?

  154. 1501: 
    GOAL- Tottenham 1-0 Swansea - Jan Vertonghen (75 mins)

    Spurs have been knocking at the door all game to no avail but finally they break the deadlock. Kyle Walker's free-kick from the right is flicked on in the box and falls at the feet of Jan Vertonghen, who swivels and fires a first-time shot past Gerhard Tremmel. It is a superb finish and reward for Spurs persistence.

  155. 1501: 

    Ki Sung-Yueng is off, Luke Moore on for Swansea.

  156. 1500: 

    Tottenham are faced with a red brick wall every time they come forward with Swansea set up principally to contain.


    From Gaz, via text: "We should have wrapped this up in the 1st half. Could have been 4 or 5 up by now. A draw will be 2 points lost. COYS."


    Jacob Rawcliffe on Twitter: "Love how Arsenal and Liverpool fans are treating Swansea as a shop window - they're doing better than you!"

  159. 1458: 

    Emmanuel Adebayor is down receiving treatment on what looks to be a hamstring injury. He is forced to limp off and down the tunnel. Andros Townsend will replace him. Presumably, Gylfi Sigurdsson will be pushed further forward to support Defoe.

  160. 1455: 

    Clint Dempsey departs and former Swansea midfielder Gylfi Sigurdsson comes on. He scored for the Swans in this fixture last season.


    Eltayeb Ahmed on Twitter: "Spurs toothless without Bale, no goals or real threat. Good example of a one man team."

  162. 1455: 

    After a brief period of Swansea pressure, which Tottenham do well to repel, the home side break away with Aaron Lennon charging nearly the length of the field before being muscled off the ball by the Swans defence. Another wasted opportunity.

  163. 1453:  
    BBC Radio 5 live

    Former Spurs striker Clive Allen at White Hart Lane for 5 live: "The game is in the balance, we've just had a bit of a lull but it's a situation where both managers are debating substitutions, just one been made by Swansea so far, but when will AVB make his move?"

  164. 1452: 

    Jermain Defoe is in the action again with a low shot from the edge of the area but it bounces wide of goal. More frustration for the home side.

  165. 1452: 

    Swansea substitute Kemy Agustien looks to get Wayne Routledge in with a cross-field pass from right to left but the ball has too much on it and Hugo Lloris can come out to claim.

  166. 1450: 

    Kyle Naughton buys himself a yard to deliver a cross from the left but the ball drifts harmlessly over everyone and out for a goal-kick. Spurs' final ball has been poor today (but that doesn't mean I hate them).

  167. 1449: 

    The pattern of the game is well-established now. Tottenham are applying all the pressure while Swansea look to hit on the break.

  168. 1447: 

    Another superb challenge from a Swansea defender - this time Ashley Williams - denies Tottenham as Jermain Defoe looks for space to shoot after an Aaron Lennon cross.

  169. 1446: 

    Swansea twists first with Kemy Agustien on for Jonathan De Guzman.

  170. 1446: 

    Michu has a sight of goal and draws a good save out of Hugo Lloris. The flag was rightly up for offside, though.


    From Krish in Maidstone, via text: "Michu's settled in so well at Swansea. Nice to see a continental player drop back, make tackles in midfield and work for the team. Would love him at Arsenal in January."

  172. 1445: 

    A good Tottenham move that involves the scampering Aaron Lennon and Jermain Defoe ends with an opening for Kyle Walker, but he slices his shot from inside the box horribly wide.


    Matt Cartwright on Twitter: "I wonder if there's anything more demoralising for a player than watching your shot go out for a throw in?"


    Michael J Merrick on Twitter: "Re Tom Fishley + Ben from Bath. Liverpool will pay £55m next summer for them. They'll lose form. Mark my words."

  175. 1443: 

    Swansea have a superb chance to hit Tottenham on the break following a corner but Emmanuel Adebayor does well to get back and tackle the hesitant Ki Sung-Yueng.


    Tomo on Twitter: "Britton is so under rated!! Would love him at Liverpool."

  177. 1442: 

    Tottenham apply pressure to the Swansea backline and Mousa Dembele ends up firing in a shot that goes wide. That is Spurs' 12th effort on goal. The 13th is not long in coming as Gerhard Tremmel is forced to tip a looping Jan Vertonghen header over the bar.

  178. 1440: 

    Tottenham's Mousa Dembele goes into the book for a block on his man as Swansea look to break.

  179. 1440: 

    Tottenham come forward again with Emmanuel Adebayor looking to shoot first time from Aaron Lennon's pass but a strong Leon Britton tackle denies him.

  180. 1438:  
    BBC Radio 5 live

    Former Spurs striker Clive Allen at White Hart Lane for 5 live: "Right from start of the second half Swansea are a little bit quicker going forward, they exposed Spurs down the right, Dyer could well have put them in the lead. The tempo has picked up from what was quite a stalemate in the first half."

  181. 1438: 

    Tottenham's Kyle Naughton attempts an ambitious effort from range after cutting in from the left but it is way, way, way wide of goal... for a throw-in.

  182. 1437: 

    Tottenham respond to the Swansea chance with an effort of their own but Jermain Defoe fires wide. Soon after, Emmanuel Adebayor steers a shot towards the far corner from the edge of the box but Gerhard Tremmel palms behind and the resulting corner comes to nothing.


    Ross McDonald on Twitter: "All set for another Spurs fail. Dominate chances & possession but lose to a fluke goal. It's tough loving the Lilywhites."


    From Ben in Bath, via text: "Re Tom Fishley (1425). About as high as the chances of Benteke being at the Villa, I'm afraid."

  185. 1434: 

    That is a really good chance for Swansea. Wayne Routledge cuts in down the left and pokes a cross over that Nathan Dyer is perfectly-placed to head in from just six yards out but he does not get a proper connection and glances his effort across goal.


    George Wayman on Twitter: "Re James from Surrey (1425) I'd rather have Heurelho Gomes up front than Torres."

  187. 1432: 

    Swansea are out of the blocks quickly but Nathan Dyer is twice foiled in his attempts to cross from the right.

  188. 1431: 

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  189. 1431: 
    KICK-OFF - SECOND HALF- Tottenham 0-0 Swansea
  190. 1430: 

    The players are heading back out at White Hart Lane. Come on lads, give us some goals.

  191. 1429:  
    MOTD's Alistair Mann at The Hawthorns:West Brom v West Ham (16:00 GMT)

    "A year ago West Brom sat 15th in the Premier League and West Ham were in the Championship, so now to find the two in sixth and 11th respectively at the start of this weekend shows the genuine progress the clubs can be proud to have made. Though both are currently in deflating form, their encouraging starts to the season have more than offset recent blips. Baggies boss Steve Clarke is facing his first true challenge in management, with his side on a run of three straight defeats. With just four points from their last five games, West Ham have fallen out of the top half of the table. Hammers manager Sam Allardyce will attempt to arrest the slide at a venue where West Ham have lost just once in nine visits."


    Matt Cartwright on Twitter: "Don't see how Parker will ever return to the first team while Sandro and Dembele are fit."


    Tom Fishley on Twitter: "Chances of Michu being at Swansea next year?"

  194. 1425: 

    Stats can give us hope. Lovely, lovely stats. Infostrada inform us that 18 of the 23 goals scored at White Hart Lane in the Premier League this season have been scored in the second-half. Just you wait.


    From Yaz in Wimbledon, via text: "Re Graeme Swann (1350). Go to bed Swanny!! You need all the sleep you can get! We may need a rearguard from the tail to save the series."


    James from Surrey, via text: "Defoe, Adebayor, Michu, Dembele, De Guzman, Dempsey, Dyer and Walker... All players I'd rather have up front than Torres."

  197. 1422: 

    I'm not sure what we've done to anger the sporting gods but they are punishing us a bit today. First we had this morning's flat bat-a-thon in the cricket, then Chelsea's dour-off with Corinthians, followed by a tepid first-half from north London. Don't worry though, the world will have ended by this time next week.


    From Stavros on Twitter: "To Chris Spurs fan (1406) if you think that's good football from Spurs, then you must have never watched Harry Redknapp's team."

  199. 1419:  
    MOTD's Jonathan Pearce at White Hart Lane

    "Walker's fizzing effort was Tottenham's best moment and Michu has been Swansea's danger man, going close with a 45 yard effort."

  200. 1416: 
    HALF-TIME- Tottenham 0-0 Swansea

    Will Dorsett on Twitter: "Can't imagine anyone likes coming up against Lennon. Too bad he can't shoot."

    Patrick Brennan on Twitter: "Swansea gk was Tremmeling with fear at that Walker effort."

  202. 1415: 

    Leon Britton gives away a dangerous free-kick with just a minute to go until the break. Jan Vertonghen steps up and smashes it but straight into the wall. Looks like we're heading for half-time without a goal.

  203. 1412: 

    Michu has already sealed his status as one of the signings of the season and he nearly adds to his reputation with a shot from the halfway line that has Hugo Lloris scrambling back but just clears the bar.

  204. 1411: 

    It is raining chances now, with Tottenham's Aaron Lennon unleashing a low shot that Gerhard Tremmel saves.

  205. 1410: 

    Brilliant, we've had a chance on goal. Kyle Walker absolutely leathers a shot on target from 25 yards which Gerhard Tremmel is forced to palm away due to the sheer power. The ball is delivered back in but no Spurs player can capitalise. That wakes Swansea up, who have an effort of their own, which Jonathan De Guzman slices wide.

  206. 1408: 

    Former Spurs striker Clive Allen at White Hart Lane for 5 live: "Spurs have pressed and broken play up, Lennon and Walker in particular are giving Ben Davies a difficult afternoon. The only real threat for Swansea is down the right where Dyer is giving Kyle Naughton problems."

  207. 1408: 

    Michu tries to beat William Gallas for pace down the Swansea left and the Frenchman is forced to slide and concede a corner. Not for the first time today, though, the delivery fails to beat the first man and Spurs head clear.

  208. 1406: 

    Tottenham move the ball around nicely but it is just a touch too slow to catch Swansea out of position. Sandro's ball into Emmanuel Sdebayor is chested off for Jermain Defoe on the edge of the box but the visitors are able to clear. There are some murmurs of frustration from the home crowd.


    From Chris, Spurs fan, via text: "The football from both teams is absolutely superb. Liquid football at its best."

  210. 1403: 

    Swansea have barely offered anything in the last 20 minutes but they spark into life and Wayne Routledge is just an inch or so away from getting on the end of a good cross from the right. It remains 0-0 with just over 30 minutes gone.


    From Joolz in Cardiff, via text: "Hey Phil, know you're not brave enough to have this text show up, but gotta ask what your problem is with Spurs? Every time you're doing the reporting on them you're so negative towards the team. You were exactly the same when we played the Europa League match we needed to win. Why don't you be honest and tell the nation why you don't like them..."

    Oh Joolz, it's not just Tottenham. I hate everything

  212. 1359: 

    Great work by Spurs down the right gives Kyle Walker chance to cross low and it is only a good challenge from Ashley Williams that prevents Clint Dempsey getting on the end of it.

  213. 1356: 

    Swansea have a free-kick for Sandro's foul on Nathan Dyer, which Jonathan De Guzman delivers into the box but Jan Vertonghen does superbly to head out.

  214. 1355: 

    Tottenham open up the Swansea defence down the right with a neat one-two between Aaron Lennon and Sandro but the former's cross is blocked and cleared by the visitors. It was aimed for Jermain Defoe, who was in acres of space just eight yards from goal.

  215. 1353: 

    Tottenham are not giving Swansea time to play now. They harry to win the ball back before Aaron Lennon's cross is headed into the arms of Gerhard Tremmel from inside the box by Clint Dempsey.


    Miles Higgins on Twitter: "Brendan Rodgers must be kicking himself for leaving Swansea, especially when they play like this."

  217. 1352: 

    Tottenham's Kyle Naughton looks to deliver a cross from the left but his effort swings over everybody and out for a goal-kick.


    England spinner Graeme Swann on Twitter: "Watching Tottenham on TV, it looks like Kyle Walker has fallen victim to the same evil hairdresser who butchered me in the summer."

  219. 1350: 

    Jermain Defoe is brimming with confidence at the moment and he attempts a shot on the turn from the edge of the box. It swings wide of the far post. It followed a nice period of build-up play from a Tottenham side who are starting to take control of this game.

  220. 1348: 

    Tottenham force a couple of corners in succession, the second of which is delivered by Kyle Walker but headed away by Michu at the near post. The supply needs to be better than that at this level.

  221. 1345: 

    Tottenham are in the ascendancy now and Emmanuel Adebayor is denied in the box when a Swansea defender sticks a boot in to block his shot from a right-wing cross. Soon after, Leon Britton stands strong in the wall to block a Kyle Walker free-kick.

  222. 1344: 

    Jermain Defoe has an even better opening. Michu gives the ball away to Mousa Dembele who finds the striker in the box but his shot is blocked by a Swansea defender. With the form Defoe has been in, you'd be backing him to score that.

  223. 1342: 

    Jermain Defoe fashions the home side's first real chance at White Hart Lane as he cuts back inside in the box before firing low. Swansea keeper Gerhard Tremmel is behind it all the way, though.


    Chris Heron on Twitter: "Team in red passing it around beautifully. Too bad it's not Arsenal. Swansea are fantastic."

  225. 1341: 

    Spurs are starting to warm up now and it takes a good interception by Chico to prevent Mousa Dembele's pass releasing Emmanuel Adebayor in the box.


    Nick Reid on Twitter: "Really like Swansea's kit. Begs the question why Wales don't play in green socks/trimmings."

  227. 1340: 

    Jermain Defoe appeals for a penalty as his cross hits Ashley Williams on the arm. The Swansea defender was close to him, though, and it was more ball to hand. The referee waves away the home appeals.

  228. 1339: 

    It has been a relatively quiet opening 10 minutes at White Hart Lane. Swansea have started well and the home side are struggling to get going.

  229. 1337: 

    Ki Sung-Yeung looks to chip the ball over the top for team-mate Nathan Dyer to run on to, but the ball is too heavy and it skips through to Tottenham keeper Hugo Lloris.

  230. 1335: 

    Swansea force the game's first corner, which Jonathan De Guzman swings low right across goal to the back post before Chico fires a shot from a tight angle over the bar.

  231. 1334: 

    After Tottenham have a decent period of possession, Swansea regain the ball and Dwight Tiendalli gets some space on the right but his cross falls straight into the arms of home keeper Hugo Lloris.


    Cal on Twitter: "Two draws today, heard it here first."

    Dominic on Twitter: "Michu to score twice, Defoe once, and a nasty red card for Gallas."


    From Sean, via text: "Caulker was at fault for Everton's first goal last week, and at fault for West Ham's goal a few weeks ago. Good young talent, but not quite ready."

  234. 1331: 

    Swansea start with a good period of possession during which they probe for an opening in the Spurs half. Kyle Naughton's strong challenge on Nathan Dyer ends that, though.

  235. 1330: 
    KICK-OFF- Tottenham v Swansea (1330 GMT)

    Chris Winn on Twitter: "Re Richard Conway (1235) Just because one bloke is in tears doesn't mean that it means a lot. It takes 11 men to win a cup."


    Vlad from London, via text: "Re Kiran Parmar (1317); I understand the choice of Naughton at left-back - Routledge is too quick for Vertonghen, so Naughton LB, I'm more puzzled by Gallas over Caulker."

  238. 1325: 

    The players are heading out of the tunnel at White Hart Lane ahead of the day's first Premier League match. Kick-off is roughly five minutes away.


    Injured Tottenham winger Gareth Bale on Twitter: "Good luck to the lads today, disappointed I'm out, looking to be back soon #3pointsplease"


    Avigat Patel on Twitter: "Am I the only one baffled by AVB's decision to play Gallas week in, week out! Overrated."


    From George Harris on Twitter: "Re (1317) Or AVB knows nothing? looking at some suspicious decision making in the past, e.g. only the one striker?"

  242. 1321: 

    However, this season has been one of progress so far for Swansea. They are five points better off after 16 games than they were last season under Brendan Rodgers. And Michu is the Premier League's top scorer with 12 goals this season from 48 shots. He has already matched the total of their top scorer last season, Danny Graham.


    Daily Telegraph chief football writer Henry Winter in Yokohama: "Some impressive dancing by Corinthians players, staff and fans. If there was a Clubbing World Cup, they'd win that as well."

  244. 1317: 

    History is against Swansea this afternoon. The Swans have never won a match at White Hart Lane in 14 attempts, losing 12 and drawing two. Tottenham have won all three of their previous top-flight meetings at White Hart Lane with Swansea, including a 3-1 victory last season.


    Kiran Parmar on Twitter: "We seem vulnerable at LB, would have gone for Vertonghen there with Caulker at centre back. AVB must know something we don't!"


    From Kieran, Edinburgh. via text: "Re James Brewin (1235) I don't think you understand how football works these days. It's all about the money."

  247. 1314: 

    Swansea manager Michael Laudrup told Sky Sports: "The response after last week's loss against Norwich I got on Wednesday. Now in the league we are up against a very good side. It will be difficult but a good challenge.

    "Leon is very important. He plays it so simple but it's important for our way of playing with one touch.

    "Michu already showed us he can play both roles. He prefers to play second striker but can also play up-front. He has already scored a lot of goals this season."

  248. 1311: 

    As for Swansea, they have lost just one game in the last seven and it was arguably a game they were expected to win. Norwich came away from the Liberty Stadium with a superb 4-3 victory to halt the Swans' charge. Since then, City have made it through to their first League Cup semi-final with a last-eight win over Middlesbrough. Last time Swansea were in north London - just two weeks ago - they came away with a 2-0 win at Arsenal.

  249. 1308: 

    Last time out, Tottenham looked set to record an impressive victory at Everton. Two goals in the last minute from the Toffees ended that to prevent Spurs making it four league wins on the bounce. However, a win today and Andre Villas-Boas' side will move into the top four.

  250. 1304: 
    LINE-UPS- Tottenham v Swansea (1330 GMT)

    Tottenham: Lloris, Walker, Gallas, Vertonghen, Naughton, Lennon, Sandro, Dembele, Dempsey, Adebayor, Defoe. Subs: Friedel, Huddlestone, Parker, Sigurdsson, Livermore, Townsend, Caulker.

    Swansea: Tremmel, Tiendalli, Chico, Williams, Davies, Britton, Ki, Dyer, de Guzman, Routledge, Michu. Subs: Cornell, Graham, Monk, Shechter, Moore, Agustien, Richards.

    Referee: Mike Dean (Wirral)

  251. 1301:  
    MOTD's Jonathan Pearce at White Hart LaneTottenham v Swansea (1330 GMT)

    "Swansea have been on a superb run, with just one defeat in a nine-game spell that included Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool twice, Newcastle and West Brom.

    "Manager Michael Laudrup rested one or two of his key men for the midweek Capital One Cup win over Middlesbrough, but tired legs may start to drag their form down.

    "Spurs will be expected to start the fresher side. If they don't repeat their worrying habit of conceding late on, I'll go for a home win - but there won't be much in it."

  252. 1258: 

    Right, now we've got that out of the way we can switch our attention back to domestic matters, starting with Tottenham v Swansea in the Premier League, which will be kicking off in about 30 minutes.

  253. 1254:  
    Pat Nevin, Former Chelsea striker on MOTD

    "Chelsea have to get their heads together. They have Leeds United on Wednesday - back to reality."


    Robert Shenkman on Twitter: "I have never felt so sick after watching Chelsea play in my life, the Club World Cup is so easy to win yet brings recognition."

  255. 1252: 

    The Corinthian players dance up to accept their medals, some of them wrapped in Brazilian flags. Like Barcelona, they have now won this tournament twice - the first time in 2000. The fireworks go off, the glitter pours out and finally, four days after it started, the award ceremony come to an end.

  256. 1248: 

    Chelsea trudge up for their medals, stand for an extremely glum looking team photo and then wander off aimlessly. They just want to get the hell out of here now.


    Leo Smithson on Twitter: "Judging by that heartless performance Leeds have got nothing to worry about on Wednesday. League Cup semis here we come."

    Ollie Bunting on Twitter: "Money on Leeds to to beat Chelsea in their cup tie now. Culmination of jet lag and not picking themselves up after that loss."

  258. 1245:  
    Robbie Savage, Former Wales midfielder on MOTD

    "I don't think Chelsea are far away. If they can sort out who to play in midfield, get a new centre forward, like Radamel Falcao, and get John Terry back they are not far away at all."

  259. 1244: 

    While the award ceremony continues in Japan, I can bring you some breaking team news for today's first Premier League game between Tottenham and Swansea.

    Swansea make two changes from last week's 4-3 defeat to Norwich, bringing in Leon Britton for Danny Graham and Dwight Tiendalli for Angel Rangel. Ashley Williams starts for Swansea after he served a one-match ban against Middlesbrough in the week. Pablo Hernandez and Michael Vorm are still out.

    Tottenham make one change with Kyle Naughton in for Steven Caulker in defence. Scott Parker is on the bench.


    Nick Neill on Twitter: "The CWC is basically a free bonus trophy for the CL winners. The fact Chelsea didn't win it shows how the mighty have fallen."

  261. 1243: 

    Corinthians keeper Cassio is awarded the Golden Ball for the best player of the tournament. His team-mate Paolo Guerrero gets the Bronze Ball, with Chelsea's David Luiz awarded the Silver Ball. Cassio also gets the Toyota award (I'm assuming that is for man of the match), which is a huge golden key. If that's the key, I bet he can't wait to see the car.

  262. 1240:  
    Robbie Savage, Former Wales midfielder on MOTD

    "I thought Fernando Torres today was poor if I am being honest. There are flashes of brilliance but at times he is fighting with the ball and himself."

  263. 1239:  
    Pat Nevin, Former Chelsea striker on MOTD

    "David Luiz cared enough. We saw a new David Luiz in the first half but he made mistakes in the second.

    "Sometimes as the lone striker you get isolated. Drogba was the best in the business and a different type of player to Torres. There is no excuse for missing that chance. He should be thinking his side are now playing in extra-time.

    "Nobody in blue cared more than Frank Lampard."

  264. 1239: 

    Chelsea now face a long, miserable flight back to England. They should arrive back on Tuesday with just over 24 hours to get themselves ready for a Capital One Cup quarter-final tie against Leeds. Hardly the ideal preparation.


    Matt Crane in Harrogate, via text: "Oh well Chelsea, just goes to show you can't buy everything, when you build a team of money grabbing mercenaries, this is what happens, I predict the same will happen to City soon."

  266. 1235: 

    The Chelsea players are only able to watch on as the Corinthians celebrate in the centre circle. The expressions on the faces of Frank Lampard, Fernando Torres and Juan Mata shows that this matters to them. Unfortunately, they weren't good enough on the day.


    Some Body on Twitter: "Torres was his now usual self & will get all the blame, but there wasn't a single Chelsea player that performed today."


    James Brewin on Twitter: "Why do people think Falcao would leave a club challenging for a club who isn't challenging for anything."


    BBC Sport's Richard Conway in Yokohama: "Luiz in tears while Frank Lampard talks of his disappointment. Unfair to say this competition didn't matter to Chelsea. Reaction says it all."

  270. 1233: 

    Chelsea midfielder Frank Lampard on BBC Two: "It was always going to be a tough game. I come away with that bad feeling though that we could have at least drawn the game. We knew what they were going to bring, just disappointed really to come all this way and not win. We have to go and win a run of games in the league now. "

  271. 1231: 

    We're still none the wiser as to why Gary Cahill was sent off. One minute he is challenging for the ball with Emerson and then the Brazilian is down on the turf and the referee has his red card out. As the defender leaves the field he makes a gesture of swinging his arm out to Rafa Benitez but this is still just guess work as to the nature of the incident.

  272. 1230:  
    Pat Nevin, Former Chelsea striker on MOTD

    "I don't think you can argue with that. It meant more to Corinthians. Chelsea were quite disappointing. They did not really go for it but they had their chances. It was no surprises there was just one goal as it was not a great game. For all three defenders to stay on the line was a mistake.

    "It means a huge amount to the South Americans who wanted to put a bloody nose to those rich Europeans.

    "If you are Fernando Torres and have waited all game for a chance from six yards you have to score. I thought Frank Lampard was the best player."

  273. 1227:  
    Robbie Savage, Former Wales midfielder on MOTD

    "The best chance for Chelsea fell to Fernando Torres and he should have scored, although it was a decent save by the keeper. Victor Moses didn't do much, Eden Hazard was on fringes and Ramires' passing range was poor. I think Chelsea missed David Luiz in the middle of the pitch."


    Steve Clarke on Twitter: "Mark (1216) is right. Tightwad Roman only spent £82m in the summer!"

  275. 1224:  
    Mark Bright on MOTD

    "Looking at the faces of the Chelsea players you can't say it didn't matter, it does, but Corinthians worked really hard for the victory, looking back it's a game of missed chances, missed opportunities."

  276. 1223: 
    FULL-TIME- Chelsea 0-1 Corinthians

    The Corinthians fans erupt as the referee blows for full-time. The Chelsea players look crestfallen but they can have few complaints. They didn't do enough in the game to earn anything.

  277. 1222: 

    I've still no idea why Cahill was sent off. We've seen no replay of the incident. Meanwhile, in the final minute Chelsea come so close to an equaliser as Juan Mata latches on to a ball in the box and from a tight angle on the right hits the outside of the post.


    From Albert in Leicester, via text: "Wow. Just wow Torres is shocking sometimes. Only if Drogba was still here...bring on Falcao in January!"

  279. 1221: 

    The ball is in the net for Chelsea with Fernando Torres' head making the final touch. But the flag is up for offside. It is the right call as well as the striker was well off when the ball was delivered into the box for him to meet the ball and knock it past the onrushing Cassio. Two minutes of the four added remain.

  280. 1218: 

    Emerson gets to his feet and gingerly leaves the pitch to be replaced by Wallace.

  281. 1216: 
    RED CARD- Chelsea - Gary Cahill

    Chelsea's day goes from bad to worse. They are going to end the game with 10 men. It looks to be an off-the-ball incident. Emerson on the ground and Gary Cahill is shown a straight red. The Chelsea defender looks confused. So is everyone else at the moment as there has been no replay to clear it up.


    From Mark, via text: "This is 3 cups we have lost this season already. I blame Roman for all of it. How did he ever think Torres could replace Drogba?!! He had better get his cheque book out in January and fix his mess. I am sick of our toothless attacking play. I much prefer winning with direct football than losing trying to play. 3 cups we could have had!"

  283. 1215: 

    A change for each team. Eden Hazard is replaced by Marko Marin for Chelsea. Corinthians send on Juan Manuel Martinez for goalscorer Paolo Guerrero.


    David Carr on Twitter: "I agree Chelsea fans, all this diving and rolling is disgraceful! Drogba would show them how to do it properly if he was there!"

  285. 1214: 

    Oh, there is Chelsea's chance to get back into this game and Fernando Torres spurns it. Cesar Azpilicueta's long throw eventually falls to the Spanish striker eight yards out and with just the keeper to beat but Cassio is quick off his line to block. It is a great save but Torres should have scored.

  286. 1212: 

    Chelsea's approach play again lets them down as Juan Mata's chipped delivery from 25 yards is headed clear with ease by a Corinthians player. Soon after, Fernando Torres spins in the box with the ball and tumbles but the referee doesn't think it was a foul.


    Phil Lyle on Twitter: "Chelsea are playing dreadful football and deserve to be behind. Corinthians are playing direct, fluid football."

  288. 1209: 

    Another change for Chelsea and it is a straight swap with Cesar Azpilicueta on for Branislav Ivanovic at right-back.

  289. 1209: 

    Another Chelsea attack breaks down when Eden Hazard cannot get on to a pass down the line.


    From Shaun in London, via text: "Torres is very lucky there is no striker to threaten his position."

    From Guy in Reading, via text: "I've seen slugs eating lettuce show more desire than Chelsea today. Corinthians want it more and it shows."

  291. 1208:  
    Mark Bright on MOTD

    "Basic passing has gone they are trying long balls down the middle which is not them. It's really poor from Chelsea in terms of just keeping hold of the ball."

  292. 1207: 

    Chelsea look lost for ideas. A loose ball gifts possession back to Corinthians and Eden Hazard clatters through the back of an opponent for a time-wasting free-kick. Soon after, Branislav Ivanovic attempts a cross from the right but it is woeful and easily cleared.


    From Pat in Nottingham, via text: "People complain about diving and rolling around in the Premier League, some of these Corinthians players should be embarrassed!"


    Tommy Good on Twitter: "How many rolls did Emerson just do there? Almost a bakers dozen by my count."

    Steve Charnock on Twitter: "Should have played Oscar from the start!! Big fan of this kid, top talent!... How Moses got even PICKED to start is beyond me."

  295. 1204: 

    I tell you what, I wouldn't mess with Corinthians coach Tite. The roar he bellowed out after his side took the lead was enough to melt a rhino. He has rarely left the touchline during this game, pointing and shouting at his players. His side are 12 minutes away from being crowned the best in world club football.

  296. 1201: 

    Chelsea look to hit back but Fernando Torres can only head Juan Mata's cross wide from the penalty spot.


    BZ on Twitter: "What were the three Chelsea players doing running to the line instead of attacking the ball? Poor defending."

  298. 1159: 

    With 20 minutes to go Chelsea turn to another of their Brazilian superstars to try and rescue the game. Oscar comes on for the ineffective Victor Moses.

  299. 1159: 

    More rolls from Emerson as he is felled by David Luiz, who gets a booking.

  300. 1158:  
    Mark Bright on MOTD

    "There were three on the line but no-one seemed to react and attack the ball, Guerrero acted quickest, it was a simple header in the end."

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