Champions League as it happened

Manchester United edge Real Sociedad after Manchester City win at CSKA Moscow in the Champions League.

23 October 2013 Last updated at 21:14 GMT

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    And that's it from me. Thanks for all your contributions tonight and let's do it all again tomorrow night. Good night.

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  3. 2204: 

    It's time for me to sign off shortly, but not before telling you what's in store for you all tomorrow. Tottenham kick us off with their early kick-off against that well-known European football team, Sheriff Tiraspol. That's at 1800 BST, before we move on to Swansea's home tie against Kuban Krasnodar and Wigan's clash with Rubin Kazan at 2005 BST.


    Paul via text on 81111: Everyone praising Manchester United. Yes grinding out a 1-0 win is all well and good but United only managed that from an own goal. They weren't good enough to score themselves at home again.

  5. 2200: 
    MANAGER REACTION- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad
    David Moyes

    Manchester United manager David Moyes: "Yes [I was frustrated] because we had it on Saturday in a Premier League game when we lost a late goal. If we had scored five or six today it wouldn't would have looked out of place.

    "I'm concerned we gave away couple of free kicks on the edge of the box."

    On Wayne Rooney's performance: "He was absolutely terrific tonight, I was shouting at him in the last five minutes though. We just want a top player like Wayne to play well. I said from day one that his training was great. I think England have seen that. But we need to see it all the time."

    Alan Green, BBC Radio 5 live, at Old TraffordManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "I thought David Moyes' praise of Wayne Rooney after the game was a little bit over the top. You wonder if it's a reaction to the Sir Alex Ferguson book stuff."

  7. 2157: 
    PLAYER REACTION- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney on Sir Alex Ferguson's new book: "He's come back and corrected the story that I put a transfer request in ... he's gone back and proven that I didn't. He's obviously got his own opinion. I've not seen him since he retired and I'm happy under the new management. The other stuff doesn't concern me. That's the past, I'm looking to the future now.

    "The new coaches have come in and it feels like a new lease of life. We are working to be successful as a team. We have a lot of players who are hungry. Results haven't been what we want, but we're working to put that right."


    Stephen in Belfast, via text on 81111: Tell me about these negative subs? Smalling on for Rafael who was on a yellow. Hernandez, who was fairly anonymous, off and play Young. Sounds sensible rather than negative.

    James in London, via text on 81111: Why can't Kagawa play central midfield? Silva often starts on the wing and plays inside for Manchester City.

    Ollie in Leamington Spa, via text on 81111: People are forgetting that without a lucky own goal tonight, United would have been held to a frustrating 0-0 draw.

  9. 2156: 
    PLAYER REACTION- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad
    Wayne Rooney

    Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney: "We should have won the game by three, four or five goals. But I'm happy we got the win which was most important after Saturday. We played some great stuff and defended well. A clean sheet is always pleasing but the three points were the main thing tonight.

    "We got an early goal. We could have gone in at half-time 2-0 up and the game would have been more comfortable for us.

    "But we didn't and started the second half a bit slow."

  10. 2155: 

    Bayern Munich kept up their 100% record with a 5-0 hammering of Viktoria Plzen, who are still without a point.

    A Franck Ribery brace and goals from David Alaba, Bastian Schweinsteiger and Mario Gotze saw the current holders to an easy win.

    Second-placed Manchester City went three points clear of CSKA Moscow with their earlier 2-1 win.

    Group D
    Chief football writer Phil McNulty at Old TraffordManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "Manchester United made harder work of that Champions League win than was necessary - but victory was all manager David Moyes needed after the disappointing home draw with Southampton and the circus surrounding Sir Alex Ferguson's book. It was a case of job done."


    Ikram Miah: Wayne Rooney played class. He was the best player on the pitch today, showed some superb football and surely deserved a goal.

    Pasha Shahini: If only United played like that week in, week out. It's obvious Kagawa and Rooney can make the team click.

    Ole Tumrm: Shinji Kagawa showed why he should be one of the first names on the team sheet every week.

  13. 2149: 

    Manchester United remain top thanks to their 1-0 win over Real Sociedad. Bayer Leverkusen moved above Shakhtar Donetsk into second place thanks to a 4-0 win over the Ukrainians.

    Stefan Kiessling scored twice for the Bundesliga side.

  14. 2147: 

    Zlatan Ibrahimovic's four goals helped Paris St-Germain hammer Anderlecht 5-0 to make it three wins from three in Group C. Olympiakos remain second thanks to their 1-1 draw with Benfica, who are third.

    Group C
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    Cristiano Ronaldo scored twice as Real Madrid beat Juventus 2-1 to keep up their 100% Champions League record in Group B.

    Galatasaray overtook Juve into second place thanks to a 3-1 win over FC Copenhagen, with Felipe Melo, Wesley Sneijder and Didier Drogba scoring for Roberto Mancini's side.

    Group B

    Gareth, via text on 81111: Excellent performance all round from United! How about giving some credit when it's due?

    Craig, via text on 81111: Once again David Moyes makes negative substitutions that result in our opposition finishing strong. Poor decision making. Ryan Giggs was superb though - how does he do it?

    Justin, via text on 81111: People seem to forget that United won Premier League and Champions League titles winning a lot of games 1-0. That's the mark of any good side, grind out a result, get the three points and move on to the next game.

  17. 2143: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Real Sociedad certainly didn't look like a team who are struggling in La Liga. I suspect left-back Alberto de la Bella might interest a few Premier League sides based on that performance. Antoine Griezmann, 22, impressed too.


    Shohidur Rahman: Much better performance from United tonight. Need to be more clinical though. Missed a lot of chances.

    Sham Gallagher: Absolutely fantastic game for United. Despite the one goal, Wayne Rooney was phenomenal. Have to applaud David Moyes tonight. Well done.

    Paul Thompson: Ryan Giggs was sensational tonight. He's a machine. Nearly 40 years old and still performing like this in the Champions League.

  19. 2140: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Wayne Rooney was, once again, the best player on the Old Trafford pitch while Ryan Giggs rolled back the years with some cameo runs and cute throughballs. As for Shinji Kagawa, he's given David Moyes plenty to think about with that performance.

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    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Enjoy that, United fans? Or did you find it nerve-wracking? Some of your side's play in the opening half hour was sensational - but you never quite looked in control of the match while it remained 1-0.

    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "There were a few nervy moments but Manchester United probably just about deserved the win. There are signs with the way Wayne Rooney is playing that United can get better. They started well and pressed, but for the rest of the game they slowed the pace and their passing wasn't as crisp."

  22. 2136: 
    HOW THEY STAND- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    And here's how the Group A table looks following United's win and Bayer Leverkusen's emphatic victory over Shakhtar Donetsk this evening.

    Group A
  23. 2134: 
    FULL-TIME- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Yep, they can hold on. Manchester United take all three points to strengthen their position in Group A.

  24. 2131: 
    INJURY TIME- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    We're going to have three minutes of time added on. Can United hold on?


    Rob in Newbury, via text on 81111: Talk about rose-coloured specs! People talk as though United won 7-0 every match they played under Sir Alex Ferguson.

    Mike in Oxford, via text on 81111: David Moyes needs to stop persisting with Nani, Young and Valencia; all have been persistently poor. Kagawa and Januzaj on the wings sounds so much more dangerous.

  26. 2130: 
    CLOSE!- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    United just can't put this game to bed. Again they slice open Sociedad, courtesy of Ryan Giggs's sensational pass, and Shinji Kagawa squares the ball to Wayne Rooney but the England striker can't get a shot away and the chance goes begging.

    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "United have only really been convincing in short spells. They haven't injected pace into the game when they should have. They have just allowed Real Sociedad to get back into it."

  28. 2128: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    David Moyes is looking a little edgy on the touchline now - I'd hate to owe him a tenner. However, his anxiety is almost eased when Wayne Rooney hits Sociedad on the counter and squares for Ashley Young only to see Claudio Bravo intervene in the nick of time.

    David Moyes
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    SUBSTITUTION- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    We're heading into the final 10 minutes now as Ashley Young comes on for Javier Hernandez. Wayne Rooney is pushed further forward as a result, which I'm not sure will benefit United as they try and keep on top of their opponents in midfield...

  30. 2121: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    They're getting closer. Ryan Giggs gives away a free-kick on the edge of the area but Ruben Pardo curls it narrowly wide.


    Sophie Gayter: Manchester United need a couple of 1-0 ground out results. Clean sheets, build from back. If they can do that they'll continue to improve.

    Jeremiah Kariuki: United have been too wasteful tonight despite a good performance. The slim lead is still a risk given last Saturday.

    Anthony Marshall: Under David Moyes so far, United run out of ideas and just don't seem to be as motivated for the cause like they were under Sir Alex Ferguson.


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    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "The first half United attacked with pace and purpose. Now when they get on the ball in the final third they are just dwelling on it."

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    SUBSTITUTION- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    It's time for one last throw of the dice for Real Sociedad as they bring on Imanol Agirretxe and Gonzalo Castro for Haris Seferovic and David Zurutuza. Fifteen to go...


    Christopher Murray: Wonderful to see the crowd at the Bernabeu applaud Pirlo as he leaves the pitch. Class touch for a class player.

    Jamie Atkins: This Cavani/Ibrahimovic partnership is scary! That's 8 in 2 games!

    Matt Hardy: It looks like Benfica and Olympiakos are starting their own water polo Champions League!

    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "The way Wayne Rooney is playing you would have expected him to score from that position."

    Phil McNulty, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer at Old TraffordANALYSIS- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "Manchester United are creating plenty of chances but will they pay the price for not taking them? Real Sociedad looked a real threat at the start of the second half but it is United in control now. The La Liga side will still fancy their chances as they remain only one goal behind, particularly with United's uncertainty at Old Trafford this season."

  38. 2112: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Route one stuff from United now as a goal-kick is flicked on by Antonio Valencia and Wayne Rooney smashes over the bar. A penny for David Moyes's thoughts right now? £16.99 for Fergie's...

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    SUBSTITUTION- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Can the Spaniards nick a leveller here? They seem to have a bit more intent going forward now as they bringing on Ruben Pardo for Xabi Prieto.

  40. 2110: 

    Gareth Bale comes on for Real Madrid in their Group B game against Juventus. The Spaniards still lead 2-1 although should have had a third when Karim Benzema fired over from a yard out. Benzema is the man to come off.

    Meanwhile, in Group D, Bastian Schweinsteiger puts Bayern Munich 4-0 up against Viktoria Plzen.

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    It's four for Zlatan Ibrahimovic as Paris St-Germain lead Anderlecht 5-0 in Group C. That is nine goals in his last four matches for the French champions.

    Franck Ribery scores a second as Group D Bayern Munich lead Viktoria Plzen 3-0. Fellow German side Bayer Leverkusen lead Shakhtar Donetsk by the same scoreline in Group A.

    Chief football writer Phil McNulty at Old TraffordManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "Safety first there from Manchester United manager David Moyes. Referee Bas Nijhuis looks like a red card waiting to happen and Rafael looked the most likely candidate, so he is replaced by Chris Smalling. Real Sociedad are still well in this and growing in confidence as United hardly look secure at the back."

    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "Kagawa should have hit that first time and been a bit more positive."

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    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    It just won't go in for United at the moment - some last-ditch defending from Carlos Martinez denying Shinji Kagawa from eight yards out. Is this going to be Southampton all over again? I bet it's on the mind of the United players.

    Alan Green, BBC Radio 5 live, at Old TraffordManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "That was a good opportunity for Valencia but the angle was a bit difficult. Real Sociedad were back in numbers though."

  46. 2105: 
    HITS THE WOODWORK- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    This is end to end now. Manchester United pour forward for a second and Wayne Rooney picks out Antonio Valencia with a sublime pass but the winger's shot comes back off the base of the post.

    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "Shinji Kagawa has played well tonight, He need that run of games in the team to show everyone what he can do so I would start him against Stoke on Saturday if I was in David Moyes' shoes."

  48. 2103: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Shinji Kagawa has been impressive tonight, and he puts United on the front foot with some nifty footwork in the centre circle before releasing Wayne Rooney who fires straight at the keeper from 25 yards out.


    Sean Whittall: How does Shinji Kagawa not start every game?

    Patrick Treanor: Kagawa's crossing has been fantastic this evening.

    Gwalch Mon: Does David Moyes not learn?! Kagawa is wasted out wide! Repeat of Saturday's draw against Southampton on cards?

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    HITS THE WOODWORK- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Nervous times for United as Sociedad full-back Alberto de la Bella curls a cross/shot against the bar with David De Gea flapping. United react, as expected, by bringing on Chris Smalling for Rafael.

  51. 2058: 

    Juventus have defender Giorgio Chiellini sent off for an alleged elbow on Cristiano Ronaldo. Real Madrid lead that Group B game 2-1.

    Edinson Cavani has put Paris St-Germain 4-0 up at Anderlecht in Group C.

    And in Group A, Manchester United's pool, Bayer Leverkusen have taken a 2-0 lead against Shakhtar Donetsk.

    Here's how things stand in that group.

    Group A
  52. 2057: 
    CLOSE!- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    The Spanish side refuse to lie down here as they ping another free-kick just over the bar. United react by getting Chris Smalling stripped for action on the touchline.

    Alan Green, BBC Radio 5 live, at Old TraffordManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "David Moyes is out patrolling his technical area now. He's not happy with how his side have been carelessly giving the ball away."

  54. 2056: 
    GREAT SAVE!- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    That's better from United. From a short corner, Shinji Kagawa curls a cross to the back post where Phil Jones peels off his marker and forces Claudio Bravo into a flying save on the line.

    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "United have started the half a bit sloppy and Real Sociedad look like they will give it a bit of go now. United are very deep and allowing the pressure to come on to them. Jonny Evans and Phil Jones need to move things higher up the pitch."

  56. 2054: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Real Sociedad are beginning to impose themselves in this match now, United failing to clear the ball on a number of occasions and grateful when the ball is finally deflected wide.

  57. 2051: 

    It's going to be a shame not to see both Zlatan and Cristiano at the World Cup. Perhaps Fifa should allow a 'Best of the rest' team from players whose countries have not qualified? Who would be in your eleven for Brazil?


    Gary Woods: Would love to see Zlatan Ibrahimovic in the Premier League. Maybe too late now? Scored goals and quality ones at that everywhere he's been

    Firas ‏Hamdan: Cannot stop watching replays of that Zlatan Ibrahimovic goal!

    Abdul Karim: Ibrahimovic and Cristiano Ronaldo already making big claims to be in next year's World Cup ahead of the Portugal-Sweden play-off. Ibrahimovic is winning. What a goal.

  59. 2051: 
    PENALTY APPEAL- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    A loud penalty appeal for United as Antonio Valencia is shoved in the back by Inigo Martinez and goes tumbling in the area, right in front of the extra official. The referee shakes his head, which is surprising when you consider the amount of yellow cards he's dished out for relatively minor offences in the first half.

  60. 2049: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Sloppy play from United early in the second half as Wayne Rooney, who has now dropped deep to try and influence the game more, tries to spread play but Rafael fails to control the pass and the move breaks down.

  61. 2046: 
    KICK-OFF- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    We're back under way at Old Trafford, where United are 45 minutes away from another Champions League victory.


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    What should Uefa do about racism?

    Palace fans, what now, following Ian Holloway's departure?

    Wayne Rooney has looked fabulous for the last two weeks - could he be the man to turn United around?

  63. 2046: 
    RACISM IN FOOTBALL- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    Yaya Toure has called on Uefa take to strong action against CSKA Moscow after allegations of racist abuse from their supporters towards Manchester City's black players.

    Toure BBC Radio 5 Live: "I am furious. I am disappointed at what happened. I was disappointed about what the fans did. Uefa have to give out a big sanction otherwise players will be put in the situation again. They need to be as strong as possible.

    "Maybe ban this team for a couple of years or a couple of months. The clubs say they have educated the fans but it happens all the time.

    "I think it's not just in Eastern Europe we can get. It's stupid people in football and I don't know why it doesn't happen in other sports, just in football. Uefa have to take action otherwise it will continue happening."

  64. 2045: 

    If you get chance to see Zlatan Ibrahimovic's hat-trick tonight, take it. His second was good but his third was sensational. What a player!


    Daniel in Darlington, via text on 81111: An area for people who have travelled over 100 miles to see the game with a wife giving directions and three kids in the back moaning and insisting they repeatedly listen to the album 'Planet Jedward.'

  66. 2038: 
    Didier Drogba

    On the stroke of half-time Didier Drogba puts Galatasaray 3-0 up against FC Copenhagen in Group B. Real Madrid lead Juventus 2-1 in the group's other game.

    The eye-catching performance of the night has been in Belgium as Zlatan Ibrahimovic scored two stunning goals in a hat-trick to see Paris St-Germain lead Anderlecht 3-0 in Group C. Olympiakos lead Benfica 1-0.

    Bayer Leverkusen lead Shakhtar Donetsk 1-0 in Manchester United's Group A, while Bayern Munich are 2-0 up on Viktoria Plzen in Manchester City's Group D.

  67. 2035: 
    HALF-TIME STATS- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Fancy some half-time stats to digest with your half-time brew? Of course you do...

    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad
    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "Manchester United will go in half-time feeling comfortable but will probably think they deserved a bit more. Real Sociedad have had their moments though and United can't let their foot of the gas in the second half."

  69. 2031: 
    HALF-TIME- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    A cracking first half at Old Trafford. The hosts deserve their lead, but Sociedad appear to be growing into the contest.


    Kyle Barber: Re Old Trafford sections: A panic room-esque soundproof area for David Moyes to escape all talk/ reference to Sir Alex Ferguson!

    Andy Langley: What about a 'fans actually from Manchester' section?

    Liam Stones: How about the picture taking section?

  71. 2028: 
    HITS THE WOODWORK- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    A big let-off for United as Antoine Griezmann curls a stunning free-kick against the post from 25 yards out. They could do with half-time here now.

    Alan Green, BBC Radio 5 live, at Old TraffordManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "The Dutch referee seems a bit card happy here."

  73. 2026: 

    It's the night of the prolific strikers. Zlatan Ibrahimovic completes his 35-minute hat-trick as Paris St-Germain lead Anderlecht 3-0 in Group C. That's eight in his last four games for PSG.

    Olympiakos lead Benfica 1-0 in the other match in that group.

    Over in Group B, Wesley Sneijder puts Galatasaray 2-0 up against FC Copenhagen.

    And David Alaba has put Bayern Munich ahead by the same scoreline in their Group D match with Viktoria Plzen.

    Zlatan Ibrahimovic
    Phil McNulty, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer at Old TraffordManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "Real Sociedad are creeping their way back into this Champions League game and Manchester United manager David Moyes has been out in the technical area demanding greater urgency. The early evidence suggested a simple solution - give the ball to Wayne Rooney."

  75. 2025: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    That was like the nineties all over again. Ryan Giggs break through, outstripping the Sociedad defenders for pace, before the 39-year-old remembers he's nearly 40 and slows down. He's eventually caught, but at least he wins a free-kick for his team.

  76. 2021: 

    Any more for any more, following on from Howard's text below?


    Ade, via text on 81111: Opening of a 'singing' stand at Old Trafford? What has happened to our game?

    Howard via text on 81111: Now that there is a singing area what are fans ideas for other segregated areas at Old Trafford? My ideas - moan about David Moyes area, Sir Alex Ferguson book discussion group area, prawn butty area, mother and toddler area.

  78. 2019: 
    YELLOW CARD- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    The cards are flowing tonight - Shinji Kagawa the latest in the book. The United midfielder might be impressive in the final third, but he can't tackle. Remind you of someone else? Scholes?

  79. 2016: 
    Cristiano Ronaldo

    It's seven goals in two and a third Champions League matches for Cristiano Ronaldo. Real Madrid lead Juventus 2-1 thanks to the Portuguese's penalty.

    The kick was awarded when Giorgio Chiellini pulled down Sergio Ramos in the box.

    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "You would expect David De Gea to save those kind of shots but, with the ball swerving, it can be awkward."

  81. 2015: 
    GREAT SAVE!- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Real Sociedad finally show some attacking intent as Ryan Giggs loses possesion in midfield and Haris Seferovic, playing as the lone striker, advances with the ball before lacing one from 25 yards which David De Gea tips over.

  82. 2014: 

    Zlatan Ibrahimovic has his second of the night for Paris St-Germain against Anderlecht, his seventh goal in his last four matches. The French champions lead 2-0 there in Group C.

    Stefan Kiessling has given Bayer Leverkusen a 1-0 lead over Shakhtar Donetsk in Group A. That would see the Germans overtake the side from Ukraine into second place behind Manchester United.

    Bayern Munich lead Viktoria Plzen 1-0 thanks to Franck Ribery's penalty. Bayern lead Manchester City's Group D.

  83. 2013: 
    YELLOW CARD- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Rafael is producing another energetic display, but his over-exuberance gets the better of him when he catches Alberto de la Bella on the halfway line and goes into the referee's book.


    The best action photos from tonight's Champions League games are available on the BBC Sport Facebook page.

    Sociedad own goal
    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "Antonio Valencia needs to try to beat his man more often. He's got hold of the ball and taken some touches before crossing early. I want to see him get beyond the full-back and get to the byline."

  86. 2009: 

    Juventus equalise in their Group B match with Real Madrid. Fernando Llorente scrambles home from close range after Iker Casillas parried Paul Pogba's header to make it 1-1.

  87. 2009: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Ryan Giggs is enjoying himself tonight - switching wings at will. That's your prerogative when you're one of the bosses!


    Neel Lohith: Loving the work rate of United. No breathing space for Real Sociedad.

    Paul Moore: Excellent start from United. Sir Alex Ferguson is back and his book has worked wonders, Wayne Rooney is like a man possessed!

    Samuel Olawale: Ferguson should attack Rooney more often - it seems to fire him up!

  89. 2007: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad
    Sir Alex Ferguson and David Gill

    I wonder what Sir Alex Ferguson makes of United's impressive start? He's in the stands with his old mate David Gill.

    Phil McNulty, BBC Sport Chief Football WriterManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    Manchester United are playing at the high tempo that suits them best and Wayne Rooney is right at the heart of it all. He was instrumental in the goal and Real Sociedad's defence simply cannot cope with his movement. It is just the start manager David Moyes would have wanted.

  91. 2006: 
    DISALLOWED GOAL- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    United have the ball in the net for a second time, but Javier Hernandez is clearly offside when he heads home Ryan Giggs's cross at the far post. More impressive play from the hosts though.

    Alan Green, BBC Radio 5 live, at Old TraffordManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "With this new singing section at Old Trafford did they hold auditions? It's all a bit contrived for me."

  93. 2004: 
    Roberto Mancini

    Roberto Mancini's Galatasaray lead FC Copenhagen 1-0 in Group B thanks to Felipe Melo's goal. As things stand Juventus, still trailing 1-0 to Real Madrid, would drop to third behind the Turkish side.

    Zlatan Ibrahimovic has just put Paris St-Germain 1-0 up at Anderlecht in Group C.

    All the other games still goalless so far.

  94. 2004: 
    ACROBATIC EFFORT- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    I love an excuse to whip out the 'overhead kick' graphic, and Wayne Rooney obliges when he goes for the spectacular from Antonio Valencia's cross but skies his effort well over the bar. That would have been as good as his goal against Manchester City if it had flown in.

  95. 2001: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    To underline Manchester United's dominance so far, Jonny Evans is playing the ball out from the back and consistently heading unchallenged into the Sociedad half, while Patrice Evra is a virtual left winger.


    Dan in Swindon, via text on 81111: A season without a trophy is fine as long as David Moyes builds a strong platform and doesn't look for quick fixes, prolonged future success is the priority.

    Luke in Lincoln, via text on 81111: David Moyes deserves time in this job. We haven't had a start this bad in the league in 24 years, and look how the manager did in the 24 years after.

    Jamie in Manchester, via text on 81111: Would take a season with no trophies as long as David Moyes starts trying to kill games off instead of defending leads. You can do it David!

  97. 1959: 
    GREAT SAVE!- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    United really need to make this dominance count - Wayne Rooney's shot from 12 yards out being well saved low down by Claudio Bravo.

    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "Real Socieded keep giving the ball away but that's largely due to Manchester United's closing down and no-one in a red shirt has worked harder than Shinji Kagawa in these opening stages."

  99. 1957: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    United look like they might run riot tonight - Javier Hernandez being taken out by what can only be described as some sort of kung-fu kick by Mikel Gonzalez on the edge of the area. A free-kick is awarded, but Wayne Rooney fires it straight into the wall.

  100. 1955: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    There's the side of Shinji Kagawa's game that frustrates managers - the midfielder turning his back on the ball and losing possession to Markel Bergara who fires in a 30-yard shot which is deflected wide.

  101. 1953: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    United are rampant here and should go 2-0 up but Javier Hernandez slips in the six-yard box and fails to make any connection with Shinji Kagawa's teasing cross.


    Sophie Gayter: Inches away from one of the best goals of his career. Wayne Rooney is in the form of his life.

    Hayden Taylor: Perfect response from Rooney to comments in Sir Alex Ferguson's book. Proves that his focus is firmly on football.

    Alan Fraser: I've seen a replay of that goal from three different angles and I STILL can't work out what the defender was trying to do!

  103. 1951: 

    Real Madrid lead within five minutes of their Group B match with Juventus. Cristiano Ronaldo scores his sixth goal of this season's Champions League (in his third game) with a dinked effort past Gianluigi Buffon after a nice ball from Angel Di Maria.

  104. 1950: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    David Moyes has copped some stick recently, but there's no denying he's got Wayne Rooney playing well again. United just need to build on this lead now as they snap into the tackle and press Real Sociedad back.

    Kevin Kilbane, BBC Radio 5 liveManchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    "That was poor defending but we are seeing what a wonderful player Wayne Rooney is to create that goal. Wonderful from Rooney."

    Own goal
  106. 1949: 
    Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad

    That has got Old Trafford rocking. There's four singings stands [1944] all of a sudden - well three and a bit.

  107. 1946: 
    GOAL- Manchester United 1-0 Real Sociedad - Inigo Martinez own goal (2 mins)

    What a start that is for United. Wayne Rooney should get all the credit as he slaloms through the Real Sociedad and curls a shot against the inside of the post before Inigo Martinez panics under pressure and turns the rebound into his own net.

  108. 1946: 
    KICK-OFF- Manchester United 0-0 Real Sociedad

    We're off at Old Trafford. Can United register another European victory or will it become another uncomfortable evening for David Moyes?

  109. 1944: 
    Manchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    It should be some atmosphere at Old Trafford tonight, with Real Sociedad bringing 6,000 supporters over and the Reds opening up a 'singing stand'. Interesting...

  110. 1941: 
    Manchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    Anyway, it's time to put the book to one side and focus on the pitch. There's no need for green dye at Old Trafford - the playing surface looks pristine as the players make their way on to the pitch.

  111. 1940: 
    Manchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    Wayne Rooney is among the high-profile names referred to in Ferguson's second autobiography, which was published on Tuesday. It states Rooney went to Ferguson's office "the day after we won the league and asked away" but the former manager decided to let successor Moyes decide on Rooney's future.

    It's probably not the type of story Moyes wanted discussed, but the manager is confident his striker will not lose his focus.

    "Wayne is completely focused on his football. He has been since the first day back in pre-season," said Moyes. "He's in good form - he's looking after himself and playing well.

    "Alex Ferguson can do what he wishes. He's his own man. Certainly everyone at Old Trafford would love to hear what he has to say - the supporters certainly would. He has great knowledge and I am sure a lot of people will enjoy reading it."

  112. 1933: 
    Manchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    Sir Alex Ferguson is at Old Trafford again tonight. I wonder what David Moyes thinks about that imposing shadow being constantly on his shoulder?

    Moyes will be hoping for a big result following Saturday's draw against Southampton, which has seen many write off their Premier League title challenge. Not Arsene Wenger though.

    "Are Man United out of the title race? No, but of course 10 points starts to be a little gap," said the Arsenal manager. "They have big players, big experience and they are a big club."

    United fans, would you be able to accept a potential season without trophies?

  113. 1929: 
    Manchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    It's fair to say one or two people aren't particularly enamoured with Sir Alex Ferguson's criticisms in his new book - especially Roy Keane.

    The Scot wrote about Keane: "The hardest part of Roy's body is his tongue. He has the most savage tongue you can imagine. He can debilitate the most confident person in the world in seconds. He was an intimidating, ferocious individual."

    To which the midfielder replied: "I remember having conversations about loyalty when I was at the club. I don't think he knows the meaning of the word. To constantly criticise other players that brought him success… I won't be losing any sleep over it."

    No mincing of words there then.

    Phil McNulty, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer at Old TraffordManchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    Real Sociedad backed by thousands of vociferous fans here at Old Trafford - and some even more vociferous Spanish radio commentators! Lively.


    Asad Mohiuddin: Frank Lampard's comments show he is a great human being. Fergie should learn a few things from him.

    David Milburn: A player can't be bigger than a club, but a manager can? Disappointed to read of Sir Alex already bad-mouthing his players.

  116. 1920: 
    Manchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)
    David Moyes

    Manchester United manager David Moyes, on Robin van Persie's absence against Real Sociedad: "He has two bad toes and has been complaining about his groin so we took the chance to rest him and get him ready for the weekend.

    "We've got a big squad and players who are fresh. All you can do is win the next game and we'll try and beat Sociedad. That will give us a good points tally.

    "They have not started the Spanish season as well as they would like but they had a good win against Valencia at the weekend."

  117. 1918: 
    Manchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    When asked about Sir Alex Ferguson's quotes about Frank Lampard not being an "elite player", the Chelsea and England midfielder said: "He's always spoken very well of me and it would be a book I'd like to read.

    "I've got off quite lightly from some of the headlines I've read. I've got a lot of respect for him. I don't mind him being not completely glowing about myself."

    On Fergie's criticism of Beckham, he said: "From knowing Beckham, I think he's a fantastic professional - Beckham and Ferguson are very different people - David Beckham's path was completely different to how Ferguson would have imagined his ideal footballer's path…"

  118. 1917: 
    Manchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    It's time to turn our attention to the other big game involving a Manchester club tonight.

    And it's been quite some week for Manchester United supporters, who are having to deal with the transitional period of a new manager in the post-Fergie era at the same time as hearing all the fall-out from their former manager's new book. Speaking of which... here's Frank Lampard on Fergie's book.

    Alan Green, BBC Radio 5 live, at Old TraffordManchester Untied v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    "It's an interesting selection by David Moyes with some marked absentees particularly Robin van Persie who isn't in the matchday squad at all and we're guessing is rested or carrying an injury."


    Adebola Mohammed: As much as I want David Moyes given all the chance he needs, he is making it so difficult. Starting Ryan Giggs. Really?

    Ryan McCullough: Glad to see Shinji Kagawa and Javier Hernandez start for Manchester United tonight. They need to grab the opportunity and show Moyes what they can do.

    Darren Beck: Robin Van Persie being rested for United's six-pointer against Stoke at the weekend it seems!

  121. 1914: 
    LINE-UPS- Real Madrid v Juventus (1945 BST)

    Real Madrid: Casillas, Arbeloa, Sergio Ramos, Pepe, Marcelo, Khedira, Illarramendi, Di Maria, Modric, Ronaldo, Benzema. Subs: Diego Lopez, Varane, Fabio Coentrao, Bale, Carvajal, Morata, Isco.

    Juventus: Buffon, Caceres, Barzagli, Chiellini, Ogbonna, Vidal, Pirlo, Pogba, Tevez, Llorente, Marchisio. Subs: Storari, Giovinco, Peluso, Bonucci, Padoin, Asamoah, Isla.

    Referee: Manuel Grafe (Germany)

  122. 1913: 
    BREAKING TEAM NEWS- Real Madrid v Juventus (1945 BST)

    Gareth Bale is on the bench for Real Madrid tonight, while ex-Manchester United players Paul Pogba and Carlos Tevez start for Juventus.

  123. 1912: 
    MANAGER REACTION- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City
    Manuel Pellegrini

    Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini on his side's victory: "I'm very happy. The result is very important for the team. The whole team concentrated with intensity on a difficult pitch.

    "Aguero and Silva are both top players and every match they show how they can play football. We are not in the next round but this is very important for us."

  124. 1909: 
    MANAGER REACTION- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini, when asked if he had heard racist chanting in the stands: "I didn't know about that. It's a pity and I hope we have the right measures."

  125. 1907: 

    Paris St-Germain can make it three wins from three when they visit point-less Anderlecht in Group C. Benfica host Olympiakos in what is may be the battle for second place - both sides are on three points.

    Bayern Munich, with a 100% record, are at home to Viktoria Plzen, who have a 0% record, is Manchester City's Group D.

  126. 1906: 

    Real Madrid host Juventus in tonight's standout Champions League tie. Real have won their first two games, while the Italians have drawn both theirs. FC Copenhagen and Galatasaray face each other in the other Group B game - with both sides knowing they can go second if Juve do not win.

    Bayer Leverkusen host Shakhtar Donetsk in Manchester United's Group A, with both sides in the running to go top of the table overnight if the Red Devils slip up against Real Sociedad.


    Tom in Manchester, via text on 81111: What a save by Joe Hart at the end! This was our biggest European game, the pressure to win was immense, the weather sub zero. City showed grit and had to work hard for the win but in the end it can only get easier for City now.

    Terry in Derry, via text on 81111: The pitch in Moscow was not safe to play on and ref should have called it off. A good result for Man City though.

    Angus in Sheffield, via text on 81111: Two very solid England performances and some vital saves for City - it seems the Joe Hart naysayers have gone quiet. Still easily England's best goalkeeper.

  128. 1905: 
    PLAYER REACTION- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure, speaking about tonight's result: "The win was very important. It was very difficult to play good football. Full credit to the team, who worked very hard. It wasn't easy.

    "Sergio Aguero had a fantastic game. He is an amazing player. Joe Hart saved us."

  129. 1904: 
    PLAYER REACTION- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    Manchester City midfielder Yaya Toure, when asked if he had heard racist chanting from the stands: "I told the ref. I think it was unbelievable and very sad. We want to stop that.

    "I think Uefa have to do a lot to try to stop it. Maybe close the stadium for a couple of games. As an African player, it is always sad when you hear something like that."

  130. 1902: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    While some of City's attacking play was impressive tonight, you fear for them against some of the bigger European sides if they continue to persist with Javi Garcia at centre-back. Here's the stats from tonight's match.

    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City
    Alistair Bruce-Ball in MoscowCSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    "Manchester City should have won the game by more than they did but Joe Hart should rightly get the plaudits for a brilliant save right at the end of the game to secure the three points. If City can beat CSKA Moscow in Manchester they should be in a pretty strong position to reach the knockout stages."

  132. 1859: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    I don't think I'm overstating it when I say that tonight's victory in Moscow is one of City's most important results in their short Champions League history. Beat CSKA at home in their next match and you fancy them to finally progress to the next stage. Here's how the table looks at the moment:

    Group D
    Phil McNulty, BBC Sport Chief Football Writer at Old TraffordManchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    "Old Trafford gives a singing section its first trial tonight - and Manchester United manager David Moyes has a few reasons for wanting it to be a resounding success.

    "Saturday's 1-1 draw with Southampton was hardly ideal preparation for tonight's Champions League meeting with Real Sociedad and Moyes writes in his programme notes: 'I do understand that here at home you are waiting for the team to lift you - but sometimes the team needs you as well'."

  134. 1856: 
    LINE-UPS- Manchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    Man Utd: De Gea; Rafael, Jones, Evans, Evra; Valencia, Carrick, Giggs, Kagawa; Rooney, Hernandez. Subs: Lindegaard, Buttner, Smalling, Fellaini, Nani, Young, Januzaj.

    Real Sociedad: Bravo, Carlos Martinez, Mikel Gonzalez, Martinez, De la Bella, Vela, Zurutuza, Markel, Prieto, Griezmann, Seferovic. Subs: Zubikarai, Agirretxe, Pardo, Ansotegui, Castro, Cadamuro, Ros.

    Referee: Bas Nijhuis (Holland)

  135. 1855: 
    BREAKING TEAM NEWS- Manchester United v Real Sociedad (1945 BST)

    Before we reflect on Manchester City's fine victory, here's some breaking team news from Old Trafford. Robin van Persie is not in the squad, while Adnan Januzaj and Marouane Fellaini are on the bench...

  136. 1852: 
    FULL-TIME- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    That was a seriously good save by Joe Hart. He's saved City's bacon there - Keisuke Honda brought the ball down well and made good connection at point-blank range. And with that save comes the final whistle. City have done it.

  137. 1852: 
    GREAT SAVE!- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    Oh. My. Word. That was close - Joe Hart makes a tremendous save at the feet of Keisuke Honda to deny CSKA a last-second leveller.


    Matt in Cambridge, via text on 81111: Concerning lookalikes, ex-Scotland boss Craig Levein and darts player James Wade.

    Maciek in Manchester, via text on 81111: Norwich City boss Chris Hughton and Gus Fring from Breaking Bad (minus the glasses).

    Matt in Nottingham, via text on 81111: My mates used to say my mum looked like former England manager Fabio Capello. Some mates they are!

  139. 1848: 
    SUBSTITUTION- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    City make their final substitution of the evening as Gael Clichy replaces two-goal hero Sergio Aguero. We're into time added on now.

  140. 1847: 
    CLOSE!- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    That should have been game over - Jesus Navas puts in a perfect cross for Edin Dzeko, but the striker pokes wide and the chance goes begging.

  141. 1846: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    CSKA's intentions are clear now as Zoran Tosic tries his luck with another low shot, hoping to catch a divot and give Joe Hart more problems. But the England keeper is up to the task this time.

  142. 1844: 
    FINAL FIVE- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    We're into the final five minutes in Moscow now as CSKA gather themselves for one last push at City. There's a brief worry when Ahmed Musa slaloms past a couple of challenges before firing in a low shot which Joe Hart gathers at the near post.


    Michael Suten: ‏City aren't much of a threat in the league or Europe based on this game. Arsenal and Liverpool look stronger.

    Sam Pennells: Generally, I wouldn't call Man City's football boring. In Champions League our play is more contained.

    Ian Ramage: All this complaining about the pitch - it is quite bad but these guys are getting paid millions!

  144. 1839: 
    DISALLOWED GOAL- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    The best disallowed goal ever? Ahmed Musa absolutely smashes one into the top of the net from the edge of the area, but the referee had already blown his whistle for a foul on Yaya Toure earlier in the move. What a let-off that was for City who, incidentally, have brought on Samir Nasri for David Silva.

  145. 1837: 
    YELLOW CARD- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    City are beginning to clock up the bookings now as Pablo Zabaleta is cautioned for a typically full-blooded challenge which takes out Ahmed Musa in full flow.

  146. 1835: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    Again, Zoran Tosic worries City as he drives at their defence before overrunning the ball when faced with Pablo Zabaleta. We're beginning to see what Sir Alex saw in Tosic.


    Max via text on 81111: Re Marcus 18:18, surely Theo Walcott looks more like Hamilton?!

    Bob from Portsmouth via text on 81111: Andros Townsend looks more like Marques Houston - Roger from Sister Sister fame.

    Mike in Fulham via text on 81111: Lookalikes - Joe Hart has the same eyebrows as my missus and my brothers missus and actually every girl I work with.

  148. 1831: 
    CLOSE!- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    Former Manchester United winger Zoran Tosic has been one of CSKA's best players tonight, and he almost scores his second of the night but drags his low shot just wide of Joe Hart's goal.

  149. 1831: 
    SUBSTITUTION- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    Manuel Pellegrini makes his first change of the evening - bringing on Edin Dzeko in place of Alvaro Negredo. Not a bad change to have up your sleeve.

  150. 1830: 
    YELLOW CARD- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    There's a sense of desperation about the hosts now as Ahmed Musa goes down under a strong, but fair, challenge. The CSKA forward is booked for diving.

  151. 1827: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    The visitors are testing Igor Akinfeev a bit more now - Yaya Toure's dipping free-kick being tipped over the bar by the CSKA keeper.

  152. 1825: 
    CLOSE!- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    City so nearly get that all-important third when Aleksandar Kolarov is played in down the left and Sergio Ageuro helps the cross on, but David Silva can't get enough contact and pokes straight at the keeper.

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    Sociedad fans

    Matt Bullas: Sociedad fans in full voice in Manchester!

  154. 1823: 
    YELLOW CARD- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    That's Yaya Toure in the referee's book after he brings down the marauding Georgi Milanov. Yaya tries the old 'hobble away' trick, but the referee is wise and shows him yellow.

  155. 1821: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    City are desperate to get that third goal and put this tie to bed - Alvaro Negredo's pass in the direction of Sergio Aguero being cut out by Sergei Ignashevich. Good awareness from the big defender.


    Peter in Somerset via text on 81111: David Beckham looks a lot like my Mum.

    Robb via text on 81111: I have a step ladder that looks like Peter Crouch.

    Marcus in Torquay via text on 81111: Andros Townsend = Lewis Hamilton. Not a lookalike as such, as they are quite clearly actually the same person.

  157. 1818: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    There's a mist enveloping the ground at the moment - I'm not sure if it's because of flares or genuine fog. Maybe, after the green dye antics earlier, it's man-made fog?

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    Wrorak: City - good team, bore game, bore goals. Do the job, don't entertain. Need young, adventurous blood. Kasami, Sturridge, creativity.

    Allan Abbas: The form Aguero is in, he is will dismantle Chelsea defence with ease unless Luiz doesn't start.

  159. 1815: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    City substitutes Samir Nasri, Edin Dzeko and Stevan Jovetic are warming up in bobble-hats. I suppose they're kind of acceptable in the Moscow cold..

  160. 1814: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    ...But Aleksandar Kolarov fails to make the keeper work with his effort which he drags wide of the near post.

  161. 1813: 
    YELLOW CARD- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    That's good for City - CSKA's defensive lynchpin Sergei Ignashevich goes into the book for a cynical bodycheck on Yaya Toure. City are awarded a free-kick 25 yards out...

  162. 1811: 
    GREAT SAVE!- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    There's still life in this game yet - Joe Hart re-adjusting well to deal with Seydou Doumbia's header after the striker nipped in front of Pablo Zabaleta.


    Rob in Lincoln via text on 81111: I always thought Jade Dernbach looked like Gareth Bale

    Luke in Aylesbury via text on 81111: Sergio Aguero looks more like the gladiator Crixus from Spartacus: Blood and Sand.

    Paul in Derry via text on 81111: Trent Boult the New Zealand cricketer is a dead ringer for Stuart Downing.

  164. 1808: 
    PENALTY APPEAL- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    Say what you want about Javi Garcia, but it's never dull. The City defender tangles with Seydou Doumbia in the area, but the striker's theatrical dive seems enough to persuade the referee not to give a penalty. Nervous times for the visitors.

  165. 1807: 
    DISALLOWED GOAL- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    City think they have gone 3-1 up within two minutes of the second half starting, but Alvaro Negredo's goal is chalked off after the referee deems the striker handled Jesus Navas's cross into the net. There was contact, but Negredo's subsequent yellow card is harsh from the referee.

  166. 1803: 
    KICK-OFF- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    So City have 45 minutes left to hang on. Or will they score a third and put it to bed? Knowing City, it's not going to be straight-forward. The second half is under way...

  167. 1757: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    So Sergio Aguero is at it again for City. How about a half-time lookalike? I reckon he's a dead ringer for England cricketer Jade Dernbach. What do you think?

    Jade Dernbach
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    Laurence Tratalos: That's what happens when you start Garcia. Lescott must be wondering what the hell is going on.

    Gillespie: Javi Garcia has to be worst player out of any of the top four teams.

  169. 1750: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    So, City fans, what did you make of that? A few nervous moments at the back, but David Silva and Sergio Aguero are pulling the strings up front. Javi Garcia still looks dodgy though...

  170. 1747: 
    HALF-TIME- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    The half-time whistle goes - but only after Igor Akinfeev beats away David Silva's goal-bound free-kick. All of a sudden, City look in complete control.

  171. 1746: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City

    That's eight goals in his last six matches for Sergio Aguero. There are not many better than him at the moment.

    Sergio Aguero
  172. 1743: 
    GOAL- CSKA Moscow 1-2 Manchester City - Sergio Aguero (42 mins)

    You know what they say about Sergio Aguero and headed goals? They're just likes buses - you wait ages for one and then two come along at once. Following his effort against West Ham at the weekend, the little Argentine master is on hand to head home Alvaro Negredo's clever ball just in front of the keeper.

  173. 1742: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-1 Manchester City

    Whenever I watch Keisuke Honda, I'm always impressed and the little Japan midfielder is causing City a few problems with his scheming on the edge of the area. This game could go either way at the moment.

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    Matt Flecknoe: I've seen better pitches in the local park than what they are playing on in Russia!

    Chris Parker: Can't blame the pitch when you defend like that

  175. 1739: 
    CSKA Moscow 1-1 Manchester City

    So, after all that, we're back to where we started. The sides are level - but you wonder for how long as City continue to probe and CSKA look menacing on the counter. Javi Garcia looks about as convincing as that green dye patch job which has been done on the pitch.

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    Drew: The Aguero goal was almost a copy of Giroud's last night, Poor defending

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    Aman Sheth: Javi Garcia is a rubbish header of the ball, Honda is puny compared to him, and still won the header.

  178. 1735: 
    GOAL- CSKA Moscow 1-1 Manchester City - Sergio Aguero (34 mins)

    The game has burst into life now - City drawing level almost immediately when David Silva gets free down the left and watches as Sergei Ignashevich makes a complete hash of his cross and that man Sergio Aguero is on hand to slot home.

  179. 1733: 
    GOAL- CSKA Moscow 1-0 Manchester City - Zoran Tosic (32 mins)

    City have looked vulnerable on the counter all evening - and they are made to pay when the ball is lifted over the top, Keisuke Honda outjumps Javi Garcia and ex-Manchester United winger Zoran Tosic nips in front of Pablo Zabaleta to put the hosts in front.

  180. 1731: 
    CLOSE!- CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    Better from City as they launch a raid down the left and Aleksandar Kolarov pulls the ball back for Alvaro Negredo, but the unmarked Spain striker fires straight at the keeper form 10 yards out.

  181. 1730: 
    CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    What is it with eastern Europe and flags? The CSKA end is awash with red and blue flags at the moment. It's an impressive sight.

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    Russell Moore: There's a pair of twins who play international table tennis for Wales. Needless to say the doubles brings some funny looks...

  183. 1728: 
    CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    City are trying to walk the ball in at the moment, David Silva playing a one-two in the box and going down under a well-timed tackle. It all seems a bit wasted while Jesus Navas hugs the touchline and the visitors insist on trying to pick a hole in a well-organised defence.

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    Nicolaas Wellens: Rafael once got booked by the referee for a foul committed by Fabio in a cup match!

    Charlie Croasdale: Martin and Marcus Olsson regularly up to no good for the Rovers!!

  185. 1722: 
    CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    City are having most of the possession so far, probing away and committing men forward - CSKA preferring to sit back on the counter.

  186. 1720: 
    CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    City are playing quite a high line tonight and they almost get caught when Steven Zuber beats Javi Garcia to a header and Matija Nastastic has to make a superb tackle to stop Seydou Doumbia from breaking through on goal. Top defending.

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    Kieran Colton: I'm sure Torres is a twin. One plays in the Premiership and the other plays in the Champions League. Only logical explanation.


    Jamie in London via text on 81111: Play hockey with twins. One got sent off and kept on jogging to the car park. Umpire tried to send the second one off for a good five minutes. Wouldn't believe it until his brother came back. And the umpires were being assessed.

  189. 1716: 
    CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    The interesting thing about that last move was that both Yaya Toure and Pablo Zabaleta chipped their passes, rather than running them along the ground. City obviously don't trust the bounce of the ball on this surface.

  190. 1715: 
    CLOSE!- CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    City's first real chance of the match goes begging as Yaya Toure and Pablo Zabaleta link up well - the Argentine full-back putting in a cross for Sergio Aguero but the striker can't connect properly and steers the ball wide.


    Curtis from London via text on 81111: My back garden looks easier to play on than that pitch.

  192. 1712: 
    CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    CSKA are a gift who keep on giving. First we had the green dye on the pitch, then we had the strange case of the Berezutski twins. Now I've just been informed that their coach, Leonid Slutsky, had his playing career ended when he fell out of a tree trying to save a cat...

  193. 1708: 
    TWINS IN FOOTBALL- CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City
    The Berezutski brothers

    Has anybody played with some twins who've used their identical looks to be a bit mischievous on the pitch? Let me know.

  194. 1708: 
    SUBSTITUTION- CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    An early rejig for CSKA, with Aleksei Berezutski coming on to replace his twin Vasili Berezutski. Did the coach pick the wrong lad there? Or are those cheeky twins at it again, because Vasili sprinted off. He didn't appear to be injured.

  195. 1705: 
    CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    It's a cold night in Moscow, temperatures hovering just above freezing. And it's no surprise to see some City players are wearing gloves. Even Yaya, who misses the opportunity to slide in at the far post after a corner found its way across the box.

  196. 1703: 
    CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    City are playing in white tonight, and CSKA in red. The visitors are given an early test when Joe Hart has to race out and clear after Javi Garcia is done for pace by Seydou Doumbia.

  197. 1701: 
    KICK-OFF- CSKA Moscow 0-0 Manchester City

    The pre-match handshakes are done, all dog walkers have been cleared from the pitch (only joking!) and we are under way in Moscow. Let's see what this match has to offer.

    GET INVOLVED #bbcfootball

    Mehran Ebrahimi: The pitch being a problem? Surely footballers have played on concrete which is worse than that stadium!

    Ruaridh Williams: I'm glad we haven't risked Kompany for this game, the state of the pitch would ruin him again. It's a shocking state

  199. 1659: 
    CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    Despite CSKA applying green dye to the pitch, there's still plenty of brown patches - rather like a dodgy wig.

  200. 1657: 
    CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    Right then, we're almost ready in Moscow. The players are heading down the tunnel - where the green carpet on the floor looks better than the actual pitch. You could never describe tonight's playing surface as a carpet, that's for sure.

    IAN HOLLOWAY REACTION- #bbcfootball

    Sami Munshi: Where is Di Matteo? So many vacancies around the Premier League!

    Krish Hook: Please get Di Matteo in!

    Ryan Mills: Ollie gave us a great day out at Wembley but not sure he could have kept us in the Prem. Pullis next?


    Earlier we asked which Oasis song would be Manuel Pellegrini's favourite, after finding out that he's a fan of the band. As ever, you've come up with some good ones...

    Sam via text on 81111: What's the story, Yaya Toure?

    James in Londonvia text on 81111: I'm sure Pellegrini has a 'Masterplan' to produce a Champagne Super'navas' performance tonight.

    Pete in Barrow via text on 81111: Wonderwall - "all the runs Kinky did were winding, all the goals Rosler scored were blinding, there is many things I like to see you win, but you don't how. And Nicky he is the one who will save me, and after all, god bless Alan Ball.". Remember that one?

  203. 1652: 
    CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    He might have tweaked the starting line-up slightly tonight, but I think we're beginning to see who Manuel Pellegrini considers to be his best 13/14 players. For example, Sergio Aguero and Alvaro Negredo look to be his first-choice strike partnership. It was sometimes hard to work out who it was under Roberto Mancini.

    IAN HOLLOWAY REACTION- #bbcfootball

    Richard Larque: Holloway gone? Football's stupid. If he was 8th in the Champ he would still be in a job. Getting them promoted cost him his job.

    Farrell Monk: Sacking boss early who got them promoted is like subbing the striker who scored hat-trick to get you to a cup final after five minutes.

    Matt Smith: Don't forget it was Freedman who got us the squad and position for promotion! Holloway almost messed it up. Glad he's gone! COYE!

    Thomas Bagby: Gutted for Ollie. Greatest manager we ever had. Will always be welcome back at Bloomfield Road.

  205. 1649: 
    LINE-UPS- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    CSKA Moscow: Akinfeev, Nababkin, Vasili Berezutsky, Ignashevich, Shchennikov, Milanov, Wernbloom, Tosic, Honda, Zuber, Doumbia. Subs: Chepchugov, Vasin, Alexei Berezutsky, Gonzalez, Musa, Rahimic, Vitinho.

    Man City: Hart, Zabaleta, Nastasic, Kolarov, Jesus Navas, Fernandinho, Toure, Javi Garcia, Silva, Aguero, Negredo. Subs: Pantilimon, Richards, Lescott, Nasri, Dzeko, Clichy, Jovetic.

    Referee: Ovidiu Alin Hategan (Romania)

  206. 1648: 
    THE ARMY'S CLUB- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    And while we're being all cultural in the build-up to tonight's match, does anybody fancy a little history lesson? Well CSKA are traditionally the football team of Moscow's military - Spartak being the club of the trade unions and Dinamo the police.

    That might get you a point in the pub quiz at some point in the next 30 years. If it does, mine's a brandy.


    Paul in Bolton via text on 81111: As a Palace fan for 40 years I am sad to see Ian leave. He can only work with the players he has or been able to bring in. I wish him well in whatever he does in the future - he will be very well remembered for our play-off semi at Brighton and for our great day out at Wembley.

    Chris in London via text on 81111: Disappointing to see Holloway go. End of the day the squad is not good enough for the Premier League. If we were in the Championship this season we would be fighting play-off places with the same squad.

    Brian from Crystal Palace via text on 81111: Terry Venables comes to mind.

    You can also leave your reaction to Ian Holloway's departure from Crystal Palace on the BBC Sport Facebook page

  208. 1644: 
    YAYA'S MUSICAL LOVE- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    Moving back to tonight's match, where we've already established that Manuel Pellegrini likes Britpop - but what about Yaya Toure? Well, the heartbeat of City's engine room might be digging out a few old CDs ahead of tonight's match, because he loves Russian music!

    However, Toure is only thinking about one thing tonight - banishing the memory of City's footballing lesson at the hands of Bayern Munich last time out.

    "You can have a bad, bad day sometimes and the game against Bayern was a day like that," he said. "In football you have to learn from your defeats. If your opponent is better, you have to accept that, and you have to think that you can do better."


    Jack in South London via text on 81111: I don't know why he's left the club. He did exceptional with us last season and I don't think he's done anything wrong. We're building a squad which just isn't good enough at the moment. Quite angry at Holloway leaving because I don't think it's the right move.


    Mark: No point overachieving in the Championship to get sacked before Christmas.

    Jay C: Can't believe they have sacked Holloway, they were favourites to go down last year and he got them promoted! Deserved more time.

    Chris Baldwin: Shame to see Holloway go. The game needs characters but Palace need points. With Arsenal next, maybe now is a good time to go.

  211. 1639: 

    We're getting plenty of reaction about Ian Holloway leaving Crystal Palace. Do the Eagles have an inspired replacement lined up - like Southampton when they brought in Mauricio Pochettino for Nigel Adkins last season?

  212. 1638: 
    CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    BBC Sport's Neil Johnston: "The poor state of the Khimki Arena pitch has dominated the build-up to this game, but Manchester City's players must put that to the back of their minds if they are to progress to the knockout stages of the Champions League for the first time.

    "Already trailing Group D leaders Bayern Munich by three points, a defeat in the Russian capital will spell disaster for Manuel Pelligrini's men as they still have to travel to Germany to face the European champions. A thoroughly professional job is required - whatever the state of the pitch. Can City deliver?"


    Christian Reilly: Pellegrini's favourite Oasis song? Easy. Stop Crying Your Hart Out.

  214. 1636: 
    HOW'S STAT?- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    CSKA Moscow have failed to score in four of their six Champions League games against English sides. Their only win against English opposition came in October 2006 against Arsenal.

    Manchester City have won four of their 14 Champions League games (4 draws, 6 defeats) and only one of their last eight (v Viktoria Plzen).

    Manchester City's four Champions League goals this season have been scored in the second half.


    G in Wrexham via text on 81111: Maybe Pellegrini's favourite Oasis is Swamp Song?

  216. 1632: 
    IN JAVI MANUEL TRUSTS- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)
    Javi Garcia

    I think Tom [see text below] has anticipated my next topic. It is indeed Javi Garcia, who plays tonight in the absence of injured Blues captain Vincent Kompany.

    Garcia will continue to partner Matija Nastastic, and Manuel Pellegrini is happy placing his faith in the Spaniard - despite the player's reputation as a liability with some City supporters.

    "I think he played very well at centre-back [against West Ham]," said Pellegrini. "We need him at this moment in that position. He also played in that position with Real Madrid. When he played at centre back against Stoke, they didn't score, and at Cardiff, they scored two set-piece goals, but neither of them was his fault."

  217. 1628: 

    Crystal Palace manager Ian Holloway has left the club. What do you make of that, Palace fans? Once you have digested the news, who do you want as Ollie's replacement?


    Tom in Manchester via text on 81111: Say what you want about him but I can see Garcia improving game after game in his new defensive role. He looks to be gaining confidence and bulking up! Thought Pellegrini might have gone a bit more defensive whilst resting some key players for our Chelsea game this Sunday. But nonetheless he's starting arguably our strongest 6 attacking players! Predict: 3-1 city

    Dan via text on 81111: Should be a win for City, pitch might play a big factor though!

  219. 1627: 
    CSKA'S BAD RUN- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    The good news for City is that CSKA's form is dodgy at best. In fact, their manager Leonid Slutsky has compared his side's fortunes with the state of the Khimki Arena pitch.

    Slutsky, whose side have lost five of their last seven games in all competitions, said: "I suppose the quality of the pitch is, absolutely, equal to the quality of our latest results."

    Green dye can sort a lot of things, it seems. But not form.

  220. 1623: 
    HOW THEY STAND- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    So why is Manuel Pellegrini getting so worked up about the pitch? Well, for starters, this is a pretty crucial match in his side's Champions League aspirations. A quick glance at the Group D table shows that it's likely to come down to a straight shootout between City and CSKA for the second qualifying spot behind Bayern Munich.

    Group D

    Sam Pennells: Think it will be 2-1 City. Our attack will outshine our questionable defence. Fingers crossed for a win!

    Rob Bown: I'm more worried about injuries off this shoddy pitch than whether we'll win or not...

  222. 1619: 
    A ROCK AND ROLL FAN- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    By my reckoning, Manuel Pellegrini's comments about tonight's pitch are the first time he has felt inclined to complain since he joined Manchester City. Incidentally, I heard earlier this week that Mr Pellegrini is a big fan of Oasis. Any takers on what his favourite song might be?

  223. 1616: 
    TEAM NEWS- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    Manchester City boss Manuel Pellegrini makes three changes to the side that started the 3-1 win at West Ham on Saturday. Out go Micah Richards, Gael Clichy and Samir Nasri and in come Pablo Zabaleta, Aleksander Kolarov and Jesus Navas.

    Sergio Aguero spearheads the attack while Yaya Toure captains the side in the absence of Vincent Kompany, who is out with a thigh injury. CSKA Moscow's side includes Japan World Cup midfielder Keisuke Honda and former Manchester United winger Zoran Tosic.

  224. 1613: 
    A CAUTIONARY TALE- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    On a serious note though, I hope the dye is safe to use on the pitch? It was only a few years back that ex-City keeper Andy Dibble won £20,000 damages after suffering "horrific" burns during a match for Barry Town against Carmarthen Town in December 1998.

    The former Welsh international suffered lifelong scars from the pitch markings, which were drawn with hydrated lime.

  225. 1610: 
    YAYA'S NOT WORRIED- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)
    CSKA pitch

    It doesn't matter if CSKA's pitch resembles the Wembley surface or a cabbage patch for Yaya Toure. The City midfielder is philosophical about the importance of the surface - saying he's seen it all before.

    "For us, you have to play on pitches with problems," said Toure. I don't have any problem with that.

    "In Africa we have worse pitches. Most of all we have to do our best to try to win this game."

  226. 1608: 
    MANUEL PITCHES IN- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)
    Khimki Arena

    Tonight's match hasn't even kicked off yet and there's already been controversy. Manuel Pellegrini has finally cast off his laidback demeanour to have a pop at the state of the pitch his side will be playing on tonight.

    CSKA have sprayed it with green dye in a bid to limit the negative appearance of the sand-covered surface.

    "It's unbelievable the most important cup competition in the world is allowed to be played on this pitch," said Pellegrini. "I think the people from Uefa that viewed the pitch mustn't give the authorisation to play here."

    Seriously. Green dye. What will they think of next? Will we have a fake blizzard if City storm into an early lead?


    Talk to me, Manchester City fans. Have you had to take an early cut from work to get home in time for kick-off? Any of you had to be a bit creative to make an early dart? Perhaps you're out there in Russia? What's it like?

    Whether you want to talk about your early cut or debate Manchester City's Champions League credentials, now is your chance. You can send us a Tweet, using #bbcfootball, or ping a text to 81111. Go on, get it off your chest!

  228. 1603: 
    BREAKING TEAM NEWS- CSKA Moscow v Manchester City (1700 BST)

    Fancy some team news? Go on then... Manchester City make three changes to their starting line-up, with Pablo Zabaleta, Aleksandar Kolarov and Jesus Navas all included.

  229. 1602: 

    Good afternoon everyone, and welcome to BBC Sport's coverage of Manchester City's crucial Champions League Group D match against CSKA Moscow. It's a pretty early start for us as the Blues head east. But what's not to love about some bonus football time?

  230. 1600: 
    Champions League trophy

    The Champions League is a cruel mistress at times. Don't believe me? Just ask Manchester City.

    They've been courting her for the last three seasons, thrown money at her, but she has consistently played them off against the bigger, more attractive, boys from places like Madrid, Dortmund and Munich.

    This summer, City have even had a little makeover as they try to establish themselves in her affections.

    Her latest response? An autumnal trip to Moscow. But come through this latest test, and City might finally be able to enjoy Champions League dates beyond Christmas.

    Can they seize their chance? Let's find out...

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