Autumn internationals as they happened

Live video, audio and text commentary as an Ireland XV thrashes Fiji after England lose to Australia and Scotland are beaten by South Africa.

17 November 2012 Last updated at 20:03 GMT

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  1. 2000: 

    For those keeping score, and disregarding the Ireland game because it wasn't a full international, that's 6-1 to the southern hemisphere against the home nations over the past two weeks.

    Luckily, I am one eighth Australian, but I'm not sure what the rest of you British and Irish rugby fans are going to do.

    Maybe things will improve next Saturday - there's certainly some mouthwatering matches in store.

    Ireland kick things off against the perennially awkward Pumas of Argentina at 1400 GMT, with England facing South Africa half an hour later at Twickenham.

    Scotland come up against the physical Tongans at 1500, while Wales look to open their autumn account against New Zealand at 1715. Ah well, at least you're expected to lose this one lads.

    Enjoy your week everyone, it's been emotional.

  2. 1945: 

    Shall we sum up the weekend then? Wales - nightmare. England - big disappointment. Scotland - regulation defeat. Ireland - quite happy actually.


    Chantelle Regan on Twitter: "AMAZING result for Ireland!!! Hopefully this will mean more good things to come... Yeahhhh!!!!!"


    Ben Brown on Twitter: "Trying to look through my news feed and not try to look at the England score is so hard!!"


    Ireland captain Jamie Heaslip: "The win is massive. Although we have had a great three weeks' training and great energy, we have had nothing to show for it. A lot of the young lads took their opportunity and played out of their skin. 'Gillers' (Craig Gilroy) showed some serious wheels to take his tries but everyone did well."

    Former Ireland hooker Keith Wood, BBC Sport

    "This is where the pressure now goes to Declan Kidney. Some of these players have put their hands up and I thought Craig Gilroy, Iain Henderson and Darren Cave were fantastic. You have to take into account the quality of the opposition but I thought they played incredibly well. I would love to see Darren Cave at 12 for Ireland."

    FULL-TIME- Ireland 53-0 Fiji

    A thoroughly satisfactory evening for Ireland boss Declan Kidney, with several young talents making a real impression in the non-cap international.

    Gilroy looked sharp on the way to his hat-trick while Henderson combines real power with genuine skill - at only 20 he must have a big future in front of him.

    Sadly Fiji never really turned up. The explosive running rugby they are renowned for never materialised, and although they enjoyed a spell of pressure in the second half, Ireland will be far the happier after getting a decent defensive work out and keeping their line intact.

  8. 79 mins: 
    TRY- Ireland 53-0 Fiji (Marshall try, Jackson missed conversion)

    Ah that's grand. Zebo intercepts to spark a long-range Ireland counter and although McFadden cannot make the line, Ireland move the ball into midfield.

    Henderson, all 6ft 5in of him, goes back down the right, dummies sublimely and sends Ulster team-mate Marshall in at the corner.


    David Whelan on Twitter: "These young Ulster lads look very promising."


    Former Ireland captain Phil Matthews on BBC Two: "Gilroy has shown he has the short distance pace and the long distance pace too. He has put his hand up highest for Declan Kidney. Great distribution from Darren Cave and the step from Gilroy was beautiful."

  11. 72 mins: 
    TRY- Ireland 48-0 Fiji (Gilroy try, Jackson conversion)

    Another sizzling score. Ireland intercept and counter from their own 22. Gilroy receives the ball with nearly 90m to go and scorches in for a stunning solo score. Fijian tacklers lie strewn across the field like discarded chip wrappers. Jackson converts.

  12. 68 mins: 
    TRY- Ireland 41-0 Fiji (Try Gilroy, Jackson missed conversion)

    Superb score, that's more like it. From the scrum replacement flyer Simon Zebo adds to his growing reputation with a fine intervention from a set move off the scrum, sweeping round the midfield and drawing the last defender before sending Gilroy racing over. Very sharp from Ireland.

  13. 67 mins: 
    Ireland 36-0 Fiji

    Right, come on lads, this has all fallen apart a bit. Nothing to describe at the moment I'm afraid, but we might have a scrum at the moment.

  14. 66 mins: 
    SIN BIN- Ireland 36-0 Fiji

    It's all getting a bit fractious and Tuapati is sin-binned for a late hit on Gilroy.

  15. 64 mins: 
    SIN BIN- Ireland 36-0 Fiji

    Drama as replacement back-rower Chris Henry is sin-binned!!! Will it change the balance of the game? OK, no it won't but it's been a bit quiet for the last 20 to be honest.

  16. 60 mins: 
    Ireland 36-0 Fiji

    Fiji try to bully over by keeping it tight - in a corner somewhere the running rugby angel weeps quietly - but fail as scrum-half Matawalu runs into the eager embrace of Iain Henderson.

    The baby Ulster flanker, only 20, demonstrates admirable hunger as he rips the ball away and Ireland clear their lines.


    Former Ireland captain Phil Matthews on BBC Two: "I thought we were going to see a Fijian try from a rolling maul, something we would not have expected tonight."

  18. 58 mins: 
    Ireland 36-0 Fiji

    Fiji go again from the line-out but there's accidental offside and all round the world neutrals shake their heads sadly and regret telling their mates "you've got to watch Fiji, they're rugby's great entertainers".

  19. 56 mins: 
    Ireland 36-0 Fiji

    Fiji win just their third line-out, but Ireland infringe again and get a warning from the ref - "compete on your feet", he instructs the hosts. Ireland go for the line-out once again.

  20. 55 mins: 
    Ireland 36-0 Fiji

    Fiji fly into a ruck and win a penalty as Ireland fall the wrong way at the next ruck. They kick it into the corner - is this the moment we finally see some Fijian magic?


    George Antoniades on Twitter: "Forget the home nations. Over in Austria @Cyprus_Rugby have just won their 16th consecutive match 54-20 #smallnationsrugby"

  22. 51 mins: 
    Ireland 36-0 Fiji

    Gilroy takes a high kick in some style but is then levelled by replacement Fiji prop Talemaitoga Tuapati - the thump reverberates around the ground.

    Ireland recycle and move the ball right and then left but a poor pass from Marshall ends the move.

  23. 46 mins: 
    SIN BIN- Ireland 36-0 Fiji

    Scrum-half Murray falls victim to a tip-tackle by notoriously (by Fijian standards) light tackling Toulouse winger Timoci Matanavou.

    That's a sin bin for the Toulouse flyer - he knew it was coming - and Fiji's task just got that little bit harder.


    Former Ireland captain Phil Matthews on BBC Two: "The carry from Jamie Heaslip made it. Ireland picking up where they left off in the first half. No Fiji player was really committing themselves to the tackle and Ireland keep the scoreboard moving."

  25. 43 mins: 
    TRY- Ireland 36-0 Fiji (Try McFadden, Jackson conversion )

    More signs of life from Fiji, but the ball is spilled just as there are vague stirrings.

    Ireland attack off the resulting scrum. Marshall wades through the middle and when the ball goes wide Gilroy again makes good ground - they've both impressed.

    Ireland recycle and the classy Heaslip carries at pace before slipping the ball to Leinster team-mate McFadden, who dummies and goes over despite the attentions of a Fijian defender.

    Jackson converts from wide out, but there is a blow for Ireland as Muldoon is taken off on a stretcher after appearing to injure his leg.

  26. 41 mins: 
    Ireland 29-0 Fiji

    Right we're back. My spies tell me Matt's essay (See tweet below) is all of 200 words long - youth of today etc. Back in Limerick we could do with a bit more effort from Fiji to be honest.

    In Ireland's case, all you can do is beat what's put in front of you...


    Matt Goodwill on Twitter: "Loving a bit of #bbcrugby while I write my User Interface and Design on News websites essay."


    Harry Cunningham on Twitter: "@Kelly Bonner - hopefully higher than an England cricket score though!"

    Keith Wood, BBC Sport

    "For the first time in a long time, we are seeing Ireland running onto the ball. You can only play what is put in front of you but they have played with discipline and composure. Some of the young guns have done really well."


    Former Ireland captain Phil Matthews on BBC Two: "There is a strong emphasis from Ulster and they have come to the fore. There have been good performances from the centre partnership of Marshall and Cave and up front Henderson has carried ball very well. It is set up for a very good second half for the home side."

    HALF-TIME- Ireland 29-0 Fiji

    Jackson landed his first four kicks but this one - his sixth - drifts wide. Fiji counter but it's pretty limp stuff and Ireland turn it over, before a knock-on brings the half to a close.

    Lots of fun for the Irish, and the Ulster trio of debutants have all shone, but Fiji look as though they'd rather be anywhere but Thomond on a dark and damp night in the south west of Ireland.

  32. 39 mins: 
    Ireland 29-0 Fiji

    Dan Tuohy steals a Fiji line-out - nothing's working for the visitors tonight. Ireland win an injury time penalty and Jackson will go for goal.


    Robert Kirwan on Twitter: "I would love to see Cave, Henderson & Gilroy start next week..."

  34. 36 mins: 
    Ireland 29-0 Fiji

    The steam rises off a scrum as though from a freshly boiled kettle. A terrible kick enables Gilroy to counter and he closes to within five metres before feeding Cronin.

    The hooker shows good hands to feed John Muldoon out of contact but the lone Connacht man in the starting XV spills the pass with the line at his mercy.

  35. 30 mins: 
    TRY- Ireland 29-0 Fiji (Cave try, Jackson missed conversion)

    Ireland go over again, Ulster centre Cave stepping inside his opposite number in the 22 and showing good pace to make the line. Jackson can't convert, you suspect it won't affect the result.

  36. 29 mins: 
    Ireland 24-0 Fiji

    Speaking of great names (see Matt's tweet below), my latest favourite is Romania's Romulus Boar. He's a prop, not that you had to ask.


    Kelly Bonner on Twitter: "This could be a cricket score!!"

  38. 27 mins: 
    Ireland 24-0 Fiji

    So, a quick recap of those tries, both belters.

    First up Murray chips ahead and Gilroy takes superbly on the run. Ireland recycle, spin it across the width of the field and McFadden slices in off his wing. He is tackled inches short but is driven over by his team-mates.

    The second again features Gilroy, the 21-year-old Ulster wing making good ground with some quick feet and rapid acceleration. He is brought down but Ireland probe further and Murray pops the ball up for Cronin to bully his way over.

    Jackson lands both conversions, Ireland well in control here in the face of a fairly soggy Fiji performance.


    Former Ireland captain Phil Matthews on BBC Two: "This is exactly what Fiji would not have wanted. Craig Gilroy is having an absolute field day on the right wing. Declan Kidney would like to have seen this ahead of kick-off."

  40. 21 mins: 
    Ireland 24-0 Fiji (Cronin try, Jackson conversion)

    Can I take credit for that one too?


    Matt Short on Twitter: "Feeling sorry for you tonight James - some great Fijian names! #copypaste"

  42. 20 mins: 
    TRY- Ireland 17-0 Fiji (McFadden try, Jackson conversion)

    Oh yes, reverse commentator's curse!

  43. 18 mins: 
    Ireland 10-0 Fiji

    After the manic intensity of Twickenham this afternoon, things are all a little more low key down in Limerick. They're a very knowledgable and passionate crowd down there but there's little to excite them at the moment.

  44. 14 mins: 
    Ireland 10-0 Fiji

    Fiji full-back Metuisela Talebula wins the chase back to touch down after Conor Murray and Gilroy both kick ahead for Ireland. Little to show from the visitors at the moment.


    Former Ireland captain Phil Matthews on BBC Two: "Luke Marshall made that try as he was very cool on the ball. It was poor defence by Fiji and a composed finish. It will be a confidence boost for this young Irish three-quarter line."

  46. 10 mins: 
    TRY- Ireland 10-0 Fiji (Gilroy try, Jackson conversion)

    There's a fine rain falling in Limerick but the hosts are right at home and take the lead with a fine try. Ireland put it through the hands, Marshall escapes down the right courtesy of a dummy and the centre sends Craig Gilroy skating over in the corner.

  47. 5 mins: 
    PENALTY- Ireland 3-0 Fiji (Jackson penalty)

    Jerry Yanuyanutawa blatantly offside at a ruck and Paddy Jackson gets the scoreboard ticking over with a simple penalty.

  48. 3 mins: 
    Ireland 0-0 Fiji

    Fiji have too many in the line-out and Ireland are awarded the put-in at a scrum. Good attacking platform but Ireland go early and Fiji get the free-kick.

  49. 1 min: 
    Ireland 0-0 Fiji

    Fiji kick-off and Ireland maul it up before Marshall kicks deep. Fiji kick poorly and Ireland win an early line-out in the visitors' 22.

  50. 1730: 

    No caps here for the Irish, but a chance to have a look at several young Ulster talents as Luke Marshall, Craig Gilroy and Paddy Jackson get a run.

    Only three survivors from the loss to South Africa, including class number eight Jamie Heaslip.

    For Fiji Verenki Goneva will be a major threat with ball in hand - he's shone since joining Leicester this season.

  51. 1727: 
    Let's have a look at the teams

    Ireland XV: Hurley; McFadden, Cave, L Marshall, Gilroy; Jackson, Murray; Kilcoyne, Cronin, Ross, O'Callaghan, Tuohy, Henderson, Muldoon, Heaslip.

    Replacements: Strauss, Healy, Bent, Henry, P Marshall, Sexton, Zebo, McCarthy.

    Fiji: Talebula; Koniferedi, Goneva, Matavesi, Votu; Ralulu, Matawalu; Yanuyanutawa, Veikoso, Manu, Nakarawa, Naikatini, Ratuva, Ravulo, Nagusa.

    Replacements: Tuapati, Saulo, Somoca, Ratuniyarawa, J Domolailai, Bolatagane, Radidi, Matanavou.

    Referee: Leighton Hodges (RFU)


    Former Munster and Ireland hooker Jerry Flannery: "It is exciting to see the young lads out there. They may not play much in the next six months, but they have a great future ahead of them. It is easier to win at international level if you are winning at provincial level. They will go onto the pitch with confidence. People in Limerick love their rugby and are honoured to have an international played here."

  53. 1720: 

    The build-up to the game has been marred by the death of former Fiji centre Maleli Kunavore, who played for the Pacific Islanders at the 2007 World Cup. He was 29.

    You can see a tribute to the former Toulouse centre here.

    A minute's silence in his memory is observed at Thomond Park.

    Former Ireland hooker Keith Wood, BBC Sport

    "Fiji have problems with off-field issues but they have the spark and can ignite."

  55. 1700: 

    Don't fear downhearted home nations fans, we're not done yet, because next up we have an Ireland XV against Fiji in Limerick, kick-off 1730.

    I'll be back for that, once the BBC physio department (it's right next to the make up department for those who are interested) has worked its magic.

  56. 1655: 

    For anyone keeping track in the great southern hemisphere v home nations contest, it's currently 6-1 to the south.

    Include France and it's not quite so shabby after their win over Australia last weekend - maybe Italy could do a job on New Zealand in Rome?

    *Dramatic music* And the score is... 42-10 in favour of the world champions.

    New Zealand moved through the gears after a sluggish start, scoring tries through Kieran Read, Ma'a Nonu, Cory Jane and Julian Savea, with a late double.


    Matthew Harris on Twitter: "There's no shame in losing to Australia by six points. It's not "disappointing" when something extremely likely happens."


    David Staines on Twitter: "Bad decision making capt, 9 & 10 cost Eng. Take the points. Sarries get stick 4 kicking penalties, but pragmatism needed today."

  59. 1639: 

    England captain Chris Robshaw: "We weren't clinical enough and some great chances went begging. We need to be clinical when you play the best teams - if you get one chance you have to take it."

    Asked about the decision to twice turn down kickable penalties in the second half, Robshaw said: "That's a decision myself and other leaders have to have a look at. We scored a try once [in the first half through Tuilagi], got turned over another time and nearly scored as well. We need to make sure if you do go, you come away with some points."


    Jonathan Baldie on Twitter: "Scotland shouldn't be so afraid to score points with the boot. If there's no try on, just a cheeky DG will do.

  61. 1635: 

    Scotland head coach Andy Robinson after the defeat by South Africa: "South Africa defended superbly well with the physicality they brought to the tackle. If they had not done that, it could have been a different story.

    "You cannot afford to give penalties away like we did in the first-half, we gave them field position and territory. They scored from a maul which makes me very angry and then from an interception.

    "We have a lot to learn in improving our defence, and they bullied us a little bit in the first half. The guys know they can play against the top teams and we play Tonga next.

    "Henry Pyrgos brought some real energy to the field and he took his chance well. There is a lot for us to look at. We allowed a side to get a lead on us again and that is a disappointing thing."

  62. 1634: 

    Australia captain Nathan Sharpe: "We spoke about character and resolve after the France loss. We had something to prove tonight - our effort was outstanding.

    "Our defence was defence key without a doubt. We probably didn't have the result we wanted in terms of scoring points but what won us game was the 20-30 minutes spent on our try line.

    "We made plenty of turnovers, got good set piece possession and our scrum was outstanding - that's what won us the game."


    Louis Emmerson on Twitter: "Wonder how many column inches were written about England's supposed dominance in the scrum before today #nonexistent #needsheridan."


    Kris Callow on Twitter: "2 major failings today - Robshaw's decision making (3 points in front if we'd kicked 'em) and the tragic selection of Mahler."

    FULL-TIME- England 14-20 Australia

    That's a very disappointing result for England. Australia are a good side but with the World Cup draw coming up, England need to get back in the top four in the world.

    England were tipped to have the edge up front but Michael Hooper was outstanding at the breakdown, Ben Alexander got on top in the scrums and the Wallabies defence was too good for England's attacks.

  66. 79 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    Cummins makes 30m for Australia, now they'll try to run down the clock - and England go off their feet at the ruck. That is game over. They'll bang this into touch...


    South Africa coach Heyneke Meyer: "We started well and converted pressure into points but in the second half there were too many penalties and we couldn't get into the game. All credit to Scotland - they played superbly, but it was great defence by us to keep them out. It was not a great game but we will take an ugly win. We know we can play much better and we will need to improve [against England] next week."

  68. 78 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    England go again, Brown making a break through midfield. England switch to the left but replacement Owen Farrell fires out a pretty poor pass and Tuilagi cannot take it at full pelt. Chance gone, Aussie scrum.

  69. 76 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    England get in front of the ball carrier as they try to set up the maul. A great sigh of despair envelops Twickenham. Once again poor execution costing them.

  70. 75 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    Brown blocked as he chips ahead - penalty. England kick to the corner - theyll try and rumble over once more. Last chance?

  71. 74 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    Another good scrum from Australia but although Palu is caught in possession by Wood, Waldrom infirnges at the ruck and Australia clear their lines.

  72. 73 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    England launch a desperate attack but there's very little penetration and Waldrom - who showed great hands earlier in the move - knocks on as he fails to take a poor pass.


    Former Scotland full-back Chris Paterson on BBC One: "We could see the momentum shift in the second half. The ball was quicker, being able to ride the big tackles and it made a huge difference. They had opportunities but they could not finish them off."


    South Africa flanker Francois Louw, who is named man of the match: "We knew it would not be easy, they came close to scoring in the last 30 minutes but our guys held them out. The Scots played tighter in the ruck and we had to step it up defensively, and we stood up well to the challenge."

  75. 71 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    Inside 10 minutes to go, six points down - can England get back in front? They're playing with a much higher tempo now but Australia's defence is holding firm at the moment - it will take something special to break them down.

    Beale pins England back with a precise kick, but England win a penalty and a Flood's kick means they will have a line-out deep into Wallaby territory.


    Matt Dawson, former England scrum-half on Radio 5 live at Twickenham

    "England have been trying to attack but are making the wrong decisions. They should have taken the penalty kick. These are the lessons they are going to take from this game. Dealing with pressure and making the right decisions at the right time."

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "It was a better second half from Scotland, but they could not get that final pass. It is a defeat but Scotland cannot afford to have performances like they did in the first half. But there were some good performances and Dave Denton was good for Scotland."

    FULL-TIME- Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    So another defeat for Scotland, and it could be a costly one. They had already dropped to 10 in the world rankings after Samoa's win in Wales on Friday, and that should consign them to the third group of seeds for the 2015 World Cup draw.

  79. 69 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    Ashton intercepts and England launch a multi-phase attack. Forty metres out England win a penalty but rather than go for goal Ben Youngs taps and runs - brave.

    England surge to within five metres and Waldrom cuts a brilliant line but is tackled a yard short. When they try to go again Australia power into the ruck and Wycliff Palu turns the ball over for the Wallabies. Another chance goes begging for England, time is running out.

  80. 80 mins: 
    Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    That would be a negative. Pyrgos scoops up a poor pass and takes it into contact, where he is turned over by Boks number eight Vermeulen. Penalty to South Africa, and they hoof it off the field to end the game.

  81. 78 mins: 
    Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    Another scrum, another penalty to Scotland. With time running out, they take a quick tap. Can they get a second try?

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "Scotland forced it there and that was crucial. The pass was too hard and there was no way Tim Visser was going to take that. They are running out of time now."

  83. 77 mins: 
    Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    This is it for Scotland. But as they threaten in the left corner, Jackson's pass is slightly too high and hard to Visser, and it bounces off his chest. That could be game over.

  84. 66 mins: 
    MISSED PENALTY- England 14-20 Australia (Barnes misses penalty)

    Oh dear, hands in the scrum from England, shot at goal for Australia. Get this and they're more than a converted try in front.

    Barnes gives it a belt and... confusion. Does it make it over? No, shows the replay. England still alive.

  85. 76 mins: 
    SIN BIN- Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    Scotland win another penalty from a surprisingly creaky South African scrum, and again kick it to touch. Hamilton again at the front of the line-out and Flip Van de Merwe goes offside and gets a yellow card for his trouble.

  86. 64 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    England butcher the Wallabies at a scrum - the previously dominant Alexander ejected out of the sun roof for the visitors. England attack with a sinuous run from Goode but Ben Youngs knocks on and Australia escape. Lots of energy from the hosts, not a lot of precision.

  87. 74 mins: 
    Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    Another penalty for Scotland and again they kick it touch and win the line-out. Can they make it count this time? Nope. The move breaks down with a knock-on and the Boks - who have brought Morne Steyn on at fly-half - have a scrum inside their own half.

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "The scrums have just become a mess for South Africa, they are giving away penalties and not engaging. Scotland have dominated possession for the last 10 minutes."

  89. 61 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    On come Ben Youngs and Mike Brown for Care and Sharples. Prop James Slipper on for Robinson for the Wallabies. England attack halted as a long pass from Flood to Ashton drifts forwards.


    Matt Dawson, former England scrum-half on Radio 5 live at Twickenham

    "Stop rewinding and replaying it. It is not a try. A lot of people have paid good money to watch this, let's get on with the game."

  91. 71 mins: 
    Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    South Africa concede another penalty - taking out the dangerous Pyrgos - and Scotland kick it to touch. Line-out goes short to Hamilton but the attack ends when Jackson's chip over the Boks defence into the in-goal area bounces into the hands of Kirchner.

  92. 59 mins: 
    NO TRY- England 14-20 Australia (Waldrom no try)

    Waldrom loses control as he tries to dot it down over the line. Knock-on, Australia escape. Big chance gone for England.

  93. 68 mins: 
    Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    Scotland playing with much more pace now. Captain Kelly Brown collects a high kick from Kirchner and breaks away, and the move is carried on before an attempted off-load from Pyrgos to Visser is intercepted by a South African hand. Scotland bring on Jackson at 10 for Laidlaw, and Hall for Ford at hooker.

  94. 58 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    England win the line-out again, another churning maul and Waldrom bursts away and goes for the line. Does he get it down? TMO to have a look.

  95. 58 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    England rumble again, Australia infringe again as Benn Robinson comes round the side. Crucial moments here.


    Gareth James on Twitter: "#Australia are really accelerating away from #England now!"

  97. 57 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    England rumble forwards from a line-out, Australia infringe. Care kicks into the corner - attacking line-out for England.

  98. 56 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    Brilliant take from Launchbury and Vunipola bashes his way through a defender as England explode into life. Ashton comes sweeping onto the ball at pace and goes for the line but he is hauled down a yard short. England's best attack of the match, bar the try.

  99. 62 mins: 
    Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    More frustration for Scotland. They go for the line-out rather than three points, but hooker Ross Ford's throw to the tail is adjudged to be not straight. Marginal call that one.


    Matt Dawson, former England scrum-half on Radio 5 live at Twickenham

    "England are letting it slip. There needs to be replacements, I would say nine and 10. You need fresh eyes and a new strategy. Australia are taking England completely by surprise."

  101. 54 mins: 
    England 14-20 Australia

    Australia dominant in the scrums, at the breakdown and out wide. England bring on Tom Wood, Mako Vunipola and Joe Launchbury to try and power up their pack.


    Padraic Baynes on Twitter: "Scotland growing in Confidence... Too much work on the field and not enough on their finish... Great off loading by Scotland."

  103. 60 mins: 
    Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    Scotland charge down attempted clearance kicks by first Pienaar, then Lambie, and work the ball wide where Kelly Brown is held up in the left corner. But they switch play to the right and the Boks concede a penalty. Kick at goal or to touch?

  104. 52 mins: 
    PENALTY- England 14-20 Australia (Barnes penalty)
  105. 58 mins: 
    Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    More promising signs for Scotland but Laidlaw's cross-kick to the left corner is comfortably taken by SA full-back Zane Kirchner.


    Matt Dawson, former England scrum-half on Radio 5 live at Twickenham

    "England are on a last warning. It's unacceptable at the moment."


    Former Scotland full-back Chris Paterson on BBC One: "We said at half time how important it was for Scotland to get back into the match. South Africa relaxed after they scored the try and now they have a fight on. The game is much quicker than it was in the first half."

  108. 49 mins: 
    PENALTY- England 14-17 Australia (Barnes penalty)

    Barnes puts the visitors in the lead. Australia rampant here, Tapuai makes a searing break and although a loose pass ends that, a Barnes chip once again puts the Wallabies on the front foot. England struggling here.

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "Henry Pyrgos has certainly made an impact, he is bossing his forwards and brought some energy to Scotland's play."

  110. 48 mins: 
    England 14-14 Australia

    England again penalised for Marler losing his bind at the scrum. Where's Wallaby destroyer Andrew Sheridan I hear you ask? Starring for Toulon in the French Top 14, and they love a scrum in France. I mention this in passing.

    Australia win the line-out and attack with pace and vim inside the England 22 - Marler is caught offside, penalty chance Wallabies.

  111. 55 mins: 
    Scotland 10-21 South Africa

    Suddenly Scotland have got the bit between their teeth and move the ball wide for the first time in the match. But Stuart Hogg goes to ground, rather than releasing Tim Visser, who has barely had a sniff so far, outside him.

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "What a moment for the young man. He has only been on the pitch for a few minutes and he scores a try at Murrayfield. It was a training ground move. The gap was there, South Africa opened the door and Pyrgos went through."

  113. 51 mins: 
    TRY- Scotland 10-21 South Africa (Pyrgos try, Laidlaw con)

    The simplest try you could ever see. Captain Kelly Brown wins the line-out at the tail, taps it down for Henry Pyrgos, who celebrates his arrival by scorching through a big hole in the Boks line to score his first try for Scotland. Laidlaw addes the conversion and suddenly Scotland have hope.

  114. 43 mins: 
    PENALTY- England 14-14 Australia (Barnes penalty)

    Barnes started the attack with a cute little kick and he levels the scores.

  115. 42 mins: 
    England 14-11 Australia

    England told to focus on accuracy at the breakdown at half-time. Moore coming on is tactical apparently.

    Surging attack from the Wallabies to start the half and they win a penalty for Parling not rolling away at the ruck. We're going to be level here.

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "It is a killer blow from South Africa. The game was opening up for Scotland and a loose pass was read well by Strauss. There is something very wrong with the pass when a hooker is able to intercept."

  117. 48 mins: 
    Scotland 3-21 South Africa

    Scotland coach Andy Robinson wastes no time in hoiking Mike Blair off, Pyrgos on in place of the scrum-half.

  118. 41 mins: 
    England 14-11 Australia

    Geoff Parling takes the kick-off and Flood clears. Australia bring on hooker Stephen Moore for Polota-Nau.

  119. 46 mins: 
    TRY- Scotland 3-19 South Africa (Strauss try)

    Disaster for Scotland. Mike Blair tries to pick out a runner but his looping pass falls straight into the hands of South African hooker Adriaan Strauss, who gambols 40m to the line. Lambie adds the conversion and Scotland are staring into the abyss.

  120. 44 mins: 
    Scotland 3-14 South Africa

    Some relief for Scotland as the giant Willem Alberts is penalised for holding on in the tackle and Scotland can clear to touch. They win the line-out but a poor box kick from Mike Blair and a knock-on hands the initiative straight back to the Boks.

  121. 41 mins: 
    Scotland 3-14 South Africa

    Under way again at Murrayfield. Boks' ball-carrriers getting into their rhythm early, and one of them runs straight into referee George Clancy. He bounces off Vermeulen and takes a tumble, but is back on his feet in a flash.


    John Edwards on Twitter: "That England are leading at half-time defies belief. Talk about getting the rub of the green."


    Angus McPhail on Twitter: "Why have Scotland abandoned the style that looked so good last week to one that plays to South Africa's strengths?!"


    Matt Dawson, former England scrum-half on Radio 5 live at Twickenham

    "My initial reaction was he [Tuilagi] was short and had lost control of the ball but it was incredibly close. If you're away from home you don't get those decisions."


    Former Scotland fullback Chris Paterson on BBC One: "14-3 is not a terrible situation but the dominance of South Africa is worrying. They have been dominant in both attack and defence. They are holding Scotland up when they are attacking which is slowing it down for them.

    "There are 60,000 fans in the stadium and they need something to get behind. Andy Robinson will say they need to move the ball quicker. Tim Visser has not had ball in hand yet. If we can open up and get the ball wider, we stand a chance."


    Matt Dawson, former England scrum-half on Radio 5 live at Twickenham

    "The whole crowd love Tuilagi, he put it on the tiniest fleck of paint but it doesn't matter, it's a try."


    Alistair Grice on Twitter: "Yes boys, anything you can do we can do better."

    Robert Backhurst on Twitter: "Manu you beast!"

    Nathaniel Breakwell on Twitter: "Tuilagi is a FORCE England must learn how to get him in the game more."

    HALF-TIME- England 14-11 Australia

    It simmered for over half an hour but expoloded into life with the break approaching.

    Australia had the better of the half - and they have more than held their own in the scrums - but England grew into the match and that Tuilagi try gives them a narrow lead at the break. Should be a belter of a second 40.

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "The ball carrying has been great from South Africa. They deserve it and the scoreline reflects that. Strauss got the try and they have dominated possession. Scotland have had a poor 40 minutes and Andy Robinson has work to do at half-time."

  130. 38 mins: 
    TRY- England 14-11 Australia (Tuilagi try, Flood missed conversion)

    They say international sport is about millimetres - and that's the case as Tuilagi is ruled to have scored. Care takes a quick tap penalty and Barritt and Johnson combine to give Tuilagi a 30m run at the line.

    The powerful centre is caught eight metres out by Barnes and Phipps but has the strength to take them with him and when he stretches for the line he makes it - just - acording to the TMO.


    Aivars King on Twitter: "Looks like the Aussies have turned up for this one. Marler looking out of his depth at test level again."

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "The ambition Scotland showed against New Zealand against last week is just not there. They are not getting the ball into the wide spaces at all."

  133. 34 mins: 
    TRY- England 9-11 Australia (Try Cummins, Barnes missed conversion)

    Poor kick from Care and the Wallabies counter in style. Quick hands give Phipps the chance to take on Tom Palmer and the Aussie scrum-half smokes the second row to break clear. Cummins is in support and Phipps draws the last defender before sending Cummins striding over out wide. Some in the crowd unhappy with the final pass, no doubt on the scoreboard, although Barnes cannot land the tricky converison.

  134. 33 mins: 
    PENALTY- England 9-6 Australia (Flood penalty)

    England finally establish themselves inside the Australia 22. The Wallaby scrum holds firm so England go wide, Manu Tuilagi twice bashing his way into midfield. England look like they are going nowhere, but Alexander clearly goes off his feet at the ruck. Flood with the penalty.


    Sean Sonnekus on Twitter: "Yes! Much more like the South Africa I know and love. Need to stop kicking tho."


    Mike Beeson on Twitter: "Tom Waldrom frustrates me. Not sure how he's meandered into this team."

  137. 34 mins: 
    Scotland 3-14 South Africa

    First real chance for Scotland with a line-out on the Boks 22. The noise levels inside Murrayfield ratchet up a notch but the SA defence is holding firm...Francois Louw gets over Kellock in the tackle and the Scotland lock is pinged for holding on. Frustrating for the hosts.


    Matt Dawson, former England scrum-half on Radio 5 live at Twickenham

    "England will be disappointed they're under this pressure. I just didn't see this coming"

  139. 29 mins: 
    PENALTY- England 6-6 Australia (Barnes penalty)

    England penalised for collapsing at the scrum. Simple penalty chance for Barnes - he makes no mistake.

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "South Africa certainly deserve this lead. Now it is a big eight minutes for Scotland. They have not done anything yet, they need to something to excite the crowd. It has not been a great half an hour from Scotland so far."

  141. 31 mins: 
    PENALTY- Scotland 3-14 South Africa (Lambie pen)

    Referee George Clancy warns both captains about the escalating penalty count, and he's swiftly blowing for another as Scotland illegally snuff out a South Africa attack that looks destined for a second try. The visitors have to settle for another penalty from Lambie, but they are well in control of this match.

  142. 28 mins: 
    England 6-3 Australia

    No try. Alexander ruled to be just short, attacking scrum for Australia.


    Anon via text: "Just noticed something which may interest you. In the 12th minute as Greig Laidlaw is lying on the floor after trying a tackle in an offside position the South Africa number 6 (Francois Louw) has a blatant stamp on his back! Very dirty play!!"

  144. 27 mins: 
    England 6-3 Australia

    England penalised for hands in ruck, Beale clears deep. From the line-out Hooper breaks clear at the back but is hunted down by Robshaw. Australia recycle and Beale sends Ben Tapuai though a gap. Aussies go through the phases and Ben Alexander burrows for th eline. Up to the TMO this one.

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "It is a different game to last week. We knew it was going to be a different game. There is a fantastic crowd in the stadium today and they need something to lift them."

  146. 28 mins: 
    Scotland 3-11 South Africa

    Decent scrum from Scotland that sends the Boks into retreat, but a high kick is easily taken by Zane Kirchner, who calls the mark. Scotland prop Grant penalised for taking the ball in an offside position and the Boks kick the penalty to touch. Here we go again...


    Jason Kelly on Twitter: "Thoroughly absorbing match so far; anyone who expected an easy game against the Aussies has surely been proven wrong!"


    Matt Dawson, former England scrum-half on Radio 5 live at Twickenham

    "It's gone very quickly but not a lot to shout about. It's been about the defence, England have been solid, Australia OK. Not too much attacking flair so far."

  149. 25 mins: 
    MISSED PENALTY- Scotland 3-11 South Africa

    Scotland are given an unexpected chance to reduce their early deficit, but Laidlaw pulls his penalty attempt wide. Not great, that.

  150. 23 mins: 
    PENALTY- England 6-3 Australia (Flood)

    Flood punishes the Aussie error from long-range. England back in front.


    Chandler Muriel Bing on Twitter: "Scotland static. Taking the ball standing still invites Willem Alberts and co to destroy them."

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "Power power by South Africa, it was very well set up and executed. They showed composure and good strength with ability. Strauss was there like a driver of a bus. A well-deserved try."

  153. 22 mins: 
    England 3-3 Australia

    Both sides showing signs of attacking threat, but the game has yet to really catch life. A quick tap from Waldrom for England sees Flood challenge the Walalby defence and the visitors infringe at the ruck

  154. 20 mins: 
    England 3-3 Australia

    Chris Ashton and Flood make half-breaks and Goode takes it on further, but Australia flood the breakdown and win the penalty. It takes a great tackle from Hooper to haul down Flood.

  155. 21 mins: 
    TRY- Scotland 3-11 South Africa (Strauss try)

    Another needless penalty given away by Scotland, and the Boks kick the penalty to touch and win the line-out. This time the maul is mightily effective and hooker Adriaan Strauss dives over for his first try for South Africa. Lambie is wide with the conversion, but further bad news for Scotland. Gray is going off, Al Kellock coming on.

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "Couple of penalties conceded that Scotland cannot afford to give away. They are needless penalties and they are having to soak up a lot of pressure, they really need to ride this out."

  157. 18 mins: 
    England 3-3 Australia

    Wallaby winger Nick Cummins escapes down the right and bashes through the tackle of Sharples. Australia spin it across the field but a poor pass leads to a knock-on.


    Former Scotland full-back Chris Paterson on BBC One: "It is a cagey opening start. The Springboks look like they are playing the power game but without any cohesion. Scotland need to stay in this game."


    Dennis Mooney on Twitter: "England's new rugby kit clearly designed in collaboration with Willy Wonka..."

  160. 17 mins: 
    Scotland 3-6 South Africa

    Scotland lock Richie Gray "absolutely smashed" by two Springboks tacklers as he takes the ball in a static position. The blond-haired giant requires treatment from Scotland doctor James Robson. Looks shaky, but OK to continue for the time being, at least.

    Andy Nicol, BBC Sport rugby union expert on BBC One

    "Good start by Pat Lambie. He must be a good kicker if he gets selected in front of Ruan Pienaar. Looks great from the deck."

  162. 16 mins: 
    England 3-3 Australia

    England launch their first sustained attack but knock on and Australia clear their lines. Better from England, but much more to be done to impose themselves. Australia lose their line-out throw, England put-in. Wallaby hooker Polota-Nau took a knock to the head a few minutes ago, looked to affect his throw then.


    Matt Dawson, former England scrum-half on Radio 5 live at Twickenham

    "Australia seem to be able to breed open-side flankers. Michael Hooper can break tackles for fun."

  164. 12 mins: 
    DROP-GOAL- England 3-3 Australia (Barnes drop-goal)

    Searing outside break from open-side Michael Hooper past Youngs. Australia go left then right again, but England's defence holds firm. When Australia move it into midfield Berrick Barnes pops over a drop-goal.

  165. 14 mins: 
    PENALTY- Scotland 3-6 South Africa (Laidlaw pen)

    Scotland are again penalised at the ruck as the Boks rumble up the middle and Lambie administers punishment again with his second successful kick.


    Adam Shaw on Twitter: "Silly mistakes already being made by Scotland. Can't afford not to make touch from penalties."

  167. 10 mins: 
    England 3-0 Australia

    Alex Goode dances forwards. England recycle but Tom Youngs throws a loose pass and Tom Johnson knocks on - scrum Australia.

  168. 10 mins: 
    PENALTY- Scotland 3-3 South Africa (Laidlaw pen)

    Scotland lock Jim Hamilton takes the ball up and a stray Bok is penalised for not rolling away at the tackle. Greig Laidlaw lands the kick and the Scots are level from their only foray into South African territory to date.

    Andy Nicol, Former Scotland scrum-half on BBC One

    "There is a lesson there, keep the ball and exert pressure in attack and it will keep the scoreboard ticking over. That is what Andy Robinson will want."


    Matt Dawson, former England scrum-half on BBC Radio 5 live at Twickenham

    "The only way Australia are going to win this game is by trickery because they don't have the power."

    Andy Nicol, Former Scotland scrum-half on BBC One

    "Fully deserved lead for South Africa. Scotland have not really been in the game and have been bullied in defence. They need to get hold of the ball."

  172. 6 mins: 
    England 3-0 Australia

    Australia try to work a move down the front of the line-out, but England bundle the ball into touch 5m out. Throw-in Wallabies, they win it and launch an assault, but England defend stoutly and Adam Ashley-Cooper knocks on.

  173. 7 mins: 
    PENALTY- Scotland 0-3 South Africa (Lambie pen)

    Scotland miss touch with a penalty and find the Boks hammering away back in their half. The hosts concede the penalty and South Africa fly-half Pat Lambie strokes it over.

  174. 4 mins: 
    Scotland 0-0 South Africa

    Boks kick the penalty to touch but after winning the line-out, are penalised for a bit of 'truck-and-trailer' as they try to maul their way to the Scots' line.

  175. 4 mins: 
    England 3-0 Australia

    First scrum, there's history here. But England engage too early, free-kick Australia. The crowd deflates, expectations of English dominance punctured.

  176. 3 mins: 
    Scotland 0-0 South Africa

    Scotland fly-half Greig Laidlaw gets us under way at Murrayfield. Boks with most of the ball in opening few minutes, winning a penalty as Scots fall offside.

  177. 2 mins: 
    PENALTY- England 3-0 Australia (Flood penalty)

    Danny Care hangs a box kick high, Australia fall offside and Toby Flood bisects the sticks.

  178. 1 mins: 
    England 0-0 Australia

    We're under way. Flood and his mighty moustache sends the ball deep from the kick-off, Wycliffe Palu and Tatafu Polota-Nau carry hard for the Wallabies and Kurtley Beale sends a huge clearance kick spiralling into touch.

  179. 1431: 

    No instruments at Twickers for the anthems, a cappella all the way. Australian gold shining in the sun, England puce by comparison.


    Dan Bridge on Twitter: "Why are England wearing Arsenal's old kit?"

  181. 1429: 

    Only one change for England, winger Chris Ashton - he of that length-of-the-field try two years ago - back after suspension.

    Australia bring back lethal finisher Digby Ioane as one of four changes. He thinks the England wingers are "pretty" by the way.


    Former Scotland full-back Chris Paterson on BBC One: "Scotland need to bring what was good about last week's performance to the table again, when Richie Gray carried well, David Denton made a big impact and Mike Blair had his best game for a long time. If they can match South Africa's physicality and get the ball wide to Tim Visser, hopefully they can score some tries and get the win they desperately need."

  183. 1423: 

    With two big games on at the same time we'll be operating a twin playmaker system, with Bryn Palmer stepping up from full-back to run the show for Scotland v South Africa, while I'll pull the strings for England v Australia. Not long now...

    Ben Dirs, BBC Sport

    At Murrayfield: "Weather in Edinburgh as last week, crisp, dry and not a cloud in the sky. Be nice to see the Scots play with some zip."

  185. 1422: 
    England v Australia teams

    England: Goode; Ashton, Tuilagi, Barritt, Sharples; Flood, Care; Marler, T Youngs, Cole, Palmer, Parling, Johnson, Robshaw, Waldrom.

    Replacements: Paice, Wilson, Vunipola, Launchbury, Wood, B Youngs, Farrell, Brown.

    Australia: Barnes; Cummins, Ashley-Cooper, Tapuai, Ioane; Beale, Phipps; Robinson, Polota-Nau, Alexander, Timani, Sharpe, Dennis, Hooper, Palu.

    Replacements: Moore, Slipper, Kepu, Samo, Gill, Sheehan, Harris, Mitchell.

    Referee: Romain Poite (France)

    Tom Fordyce, BBC Sport

    At Twickenham: "England in new kit today. Official description is 'regal purple'. Very different from Regan purple, the colour former hooker Mark went if running. For those watching in black-and-white, it's v similar to Arsenal away strip of Invincibles era. Same colour as priests wear around Easter."

  187. 1420: 
    Scotland v South Africa teams

    Scotland: Hogg; Lamont, De Luca, Scott, Visser; Laidlaw, Blair; Grant, Ford, Murray, Gray, Hamilton, K. Brown, Barclay, Denton.

    Replacements: Hall, Traynor, Cross, Kellock, McInally, Pyrgos, Jackson, Murchie.

    South Africa: Kirchner; Pietersen, de Jongh, de Villiers, Hougaard; Lambie, Pienaar; Steenkamp, Strauss, J du Plessis, Etzebeth, J. Kruger, Louw, Alberts, Vermeulen.

    Replacements: Brits, H van der Merwe, Van der Linde, F van der Merwe, Coetzee, M Steyn, Taute, Mvovo.

    Referee: George Clancy (IRFU)

    Ben Dirs, BBC Sport

    At Murrayfield: "Late changes for Scotland, with Barclay in for Strokosch and Brown switching back to blind-side. Denton in at 8."

  189. 1419: 

    Scotland coach Andy Robinson on the task facing his side: "South Africa are a team that come at you route one. They are going to be very physical in the way they carry the ball and the way they attack off nine and 10. We have got to put these big ball-carriers on the floor because if we don't, South Africa will get momentum. We have to stop their maul and put pressure on their kickers."

  190. 1418: 
    How about England?

    Real signs of attacking verve from Stuart Lancaster's men last week as they put 50 on Fiji - can they do the same against the greater class of Australia?

    Lancaster has again gone with the playmaker Alex Goode as full-back, while he has continued with the mobile but fairly lightweight back row of Chris Robshaw, Tom Johnson and Thomas Waldrom.


    Ollie Lansdowne on Twitter: "The only thing that will lift my soul today is Australia winning by a minimum of 10 points."

  192. 1412: 
    Where are Scotland?

    Arguably the moment of peak performance from the Scots last week came when the pipes fell silent for the final verse of Flower of Scotland and 67,000 voices sang it without accompaniment.

    It was a spell binding moment, but New Zealand soon shattered the moment with a performance of such shimmering majesty it was on a different plane to anything even conceived of by the home nations.

    Scotland shipped 50 points in the end but they didn't play badly and in Dutch-born winger Tim Visser they have unearthed a finisher of real potency.

    There's an added bonus for Scotland in that he will be able to understand what the Boks are saying when they speak in Afrikaans - or Kitchen Dutch as it is sometimes disparagingly referred.

  193. 1406: 
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  194. 1404: 
    And what of the Boks?

    Bombastic, very large and obsessed by power, South Africa are the Jeremy Clarksons of world rugby. They are the mirror image of Australia in that their strength is historically up front.

    Under new coach Heyneke Meyer they seem to have retreated to the Blue Bulls, forward dominated style that brought them success as recently as the 2007 World Cup, but a lack of invention out wide means they are some way short of the standards set by the All Blacks at the moment.

    That's not to say they don't have significant weaponry out wide - South Africa's record try scorer Bryan Habana has 47 tries in 83 matches - but it is up front that Scotland will face their greatest challenge.

    Ben Dirs, BBC Sport

    At Murrayfield: "Scotland badly need a win against the Springboks, otherwise they're pretty much certain to be seeded outside the top eight for the 2015 WC."


    Chris Ewart on Twitter: "Heard it here first, SCOTLAND to beat South Africa!"

  197. 1356: 
    Who are England's opponents?

    If Australia were a haircut then historically they would be a mullet - nothing special up front but all party out the back.

    Traditionally they have combined a holding operation by the pack with the world's finest attacking backs, but the wheels have come off in the past few months as their lack of strength in depth has been exposed.

    Injuries to world class backs such as Will Genia, Quade Cooper and James O'Connor have shorn them of footballing talent that is the envy of the world, and their replacements have struggled to shine.

    They have scored only 12 tries in 12 Tests, a shocking return for the most creative of rugby's big guns, and the absence of flanker David Pocock and second row James Horwill further weakens them.

    Coach Robbie Dean is under massive pressure, with Wallaby luminaries such as David Campese calling for him to go, and the side than runs out at Twickenham will be a much more functional unit than England fans are used to seeing - even with the likes of the gifted Kurtley Beale at fly-half.


    Nick Gubbins on Twitter: "Off to Twickers to see if we can score a try or 2 against a team other than Fiji.."

  199. 1346: 

    Just under an hour to go to kick-off now. England's task looks "easier" than Scotland's but both Australia and South Africa should be beatable as neither are in great form.

    They are ranked second and third in the world but South Africa only just squeezed past Ireland last weekend, while Australia were hammered by France.

    If either England or Scotland have aspirations of mixing it with the big boys, these are the sort of matches they have to win.

    Want to know how to beat them? Glad you asked, as we've spoken to former internationals Jeremy Guscott and Andy Nicol about that very issue.

    Jerry's analysed the England v Australia game, while Andy has run the rule over Scotland's match with the Boks.

  200. 1336: 

    Wales legend and BBC commentator Jonathan Davies shouted himself hoarse last night as Wales went down to Samoa. His voice was not in the best of shape before the game, only one more match to go Jiffy.

    His wife Helen has tweeted: "Good luck to my husband's voice today!! Lets hope it holds out!"

  201. 1330: 

    So then, it was never going to be easy, but five games into the autumn internationals and the home nations trail the southern hemisphere 4-1.

    Wales' defeat by Samoa last night probably represents the low point but surely the fight back starts here?

    Scotland welcome South Africa to Murrayfield, and England start as favourites against Australia, both games kicking off at 1430 GMT, while an Ireland XV play Fiji in a non-cap match after that.

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