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Summary

  1. Chelsea's fifth defeat of season
  2. FT: Arsenal 2-3 Olympiakos
  3. Arsenal P2 L2 - Bayern Munich next
  4. Lewandowski hat-trick for Bayern
  5. Five defeats in 6 games for English teams so far

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By Tom Rostance

All times stated are UK

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As we pick over the wreckage of a bad night for the Premier League it's time to bid you good night.

See you tomorrow!

Arsenal 1-2 Olympiakos

Wenger tetchy - understandably - after match but defiant on Ospina selection. Dress it up how you like, it was a dreadful selection mistake.

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I think the lack of top quality in the Premier League is summed up by the previous use of the phrase 'the best league in the world' being replaced nowadays by 'the most entertaining league in the world'

Mr. Red, London

Do you know your best team?

Porto 2-1 Chelsea

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho: "When you win matches, you perform well, it is easy to know your best team. 

"When the team is not winning on a regular basis it is normal that you have to make changes. After games like tonight it is difficult to analyse."

Porto 'spectacular'

Porto 2-1 Chelsea

Porto manager Julen Lopetegui: "The players' attitude was amazing, spectacular. It was our best performance of the season.

"I have to congratulate my team. This three points are totally deserved. It was tough and unfair to go to the dressing room at half-time with a draw, but we reacted well."

Julen Lopetegui
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Championship reaction

Wolves manager Kenny Jackett pays tribute to outgoing chairman, Steve Morgan after a 3-0 win at Wolves: "He has been great for me personally, and I wish him well for the future.

"I felt we were the better team even before the sending-off. We showed signs of recovery after an indifferent start."

Birmingham manager Gary Rowett: "We got back to our identity tonight after beating Brentford 2-0. We were solid and we dominated the second half."

Arsene Wenger again bemoans his side's 'bad luck' in defeat at home to Olympiakos. I can't see that washing with Arsenal fans...

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Typical Arsenal. We've been hearing the same arguments about Arsenal for the past eight years. Wenger's too stubborn to address the weaknesses in the squad. They have never come close to replacing Campbell, Vieira, Gilberto and Henry. Lightweight players who cannot mix it up will get you nowhere.

Nas, Blackburn

Hoping Lewandowski is washing his hair on 20th October and 4th November...

Katie, London

Mourinho not overly critical

Porto 2-1 Chelsea

Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho: "The most basic thing in football is a defensive set-play. We had chances after that to get a positive result and we had a clear penalty - so for me I am not here to criticise the players.

"I am not going to point the finger but two mistakes cost us the game. The team played well against a difficult opponent. The Champions League brings a different atmosphere."

'Bad luck and lack of concentration'

Arsenal 2-3 Olympiakos

Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger: "It is still possible of course to qualify but it is difficult to swallow losing a game like that. We lost it on a lack of defensive concentration and bad luck. They had four shots on goal and we conceded three goals.

"The turning point at 2-2 is we give them a goal again straight away. If it stays 2-2 for five minutes we win the game.

"A goalkeeper can make a mistake that doesn't explain that we lose the game. It happened to Petr Cech already this season [against West Ham]."

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Ian Lamerton: Wenger has to take the blame. Disrespected Zagreb and Olympiakos with team selections and paid the price

Kaganzi Allan: Arsenal is not only pedestrian but primitive.They lack ideas where they are needed most!!

'A ridiculous goal'

Porto 2-1 Chelsea

Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho: "We watch dozens and dozens of repetitions of Porto taking corners. We were completely ready for that and in a moment when the game is under control we concede a goal that is ridiculous.

"They hit the post from a similar mistake. Apart from that the game was balanced. Two ridiculous moments and we were punished."

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Still no post-match reaction by the way from either Arsenal or Chelsea. A long debrief for both sides?

Championship overview

New manager, same results for Brentford.

Their 2-0 loss to Birmingham is their second home defeat in four days and they remain just a point ahead of the bottom three.

Blues meanwhile leapfrog Burnley and Cardiff into fifth place.

Wolves climb to 10th with their 3-0 win over 10-man Fulham. Tom Cairney's dismissal led to a one-sided game, with substitute Sheyi Ojo scoring one and making another before James Henry's free kick made it three.

Fulham drop to 14th.

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It's a shambles at the Bridge, Mourhino should have gone after the saga with the doctor , he thinks he is bigger than the club. Well Jose you're not, you are arrogant, and you will be gone by Christmas. PS it could be worse, I could be an Arsenal fan

Phil in Melksham

For me, the Premier League is the best in the world for entertainment. Maybe the quality isn't there in Europe compared to the late 2000s and it isn't as competitive in major competitions as it once was. But that just adds to the drama and unpredictability of English clubs and the Premier League. Millions still tune in to the the league every week for this reason, and so may it continue.

James in Leeds.

What's next?

20 October:

Arsenal v Bayern Munich

Dynamo Kiev v Chelsea

4 November:

Bayern Munich v Arsenal

Chelsea v Dynamo Kiev

How many points will Arsenal have after that lot?

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Arsenal 2-3 Olympiakos

Matthew Watson: Arsenal annoy me and I don't even support them!  

'Begovic was man of the match'

Porto 2-1 Chelsea

Mark Lawrenson

BBC Radio 5 live in the Estadio do Dragao

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"Chelsea didn't have a problem going forward but that's another two goals they've conceded tonight, and Asmir Begovic made some outstanding saves, too.

"The word from inside Chelsea on Baba Rahman is that he's a bit rash. Maybe tonight under the spotlight Jose Mourinho probably thought he couldn't leave out Branislav Ivanovic by moving Cesar Azpilicueta to the right.  

"In the second half Porto were all over them and Begovic was probably Chelsea's man of the match, but overall their performance wasn't bad."

League Two overview

Portsmouth's unbeaten run came to a surprising end at the hands of Exeter who won 2-1.

Crawley climb out of the bottom two with their convincing 3-0 win at bottom side Newport.

Sub-goalkeeper Sam Beasant's heroics didn't last for Cambridge who eventually lost 1-0 to Wycombe who go top of League Two.

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You have got to remember that the Premier League is a tough league and it is not so easy to prepare for Europe. Arsenal and United play at the weekend.

Andy, Sale

Call me crazy, but I don't think Arsenal really had a chance in the Champions League to start with. Last few years we never really performed in it anyway. Could be a blessing in disguise for our Premier League campaign!

Arjun, Oxford

Arsenal and Chelsea both conceded some dreadful goals tonight. What is that all about?

Saddlers flying high

League One overview

Walsall’s manager Dean Smith celebrates his 250th game in charge with a 1-0 victory at Scunthorpe, taking the Saddlers to within a point of leaders Burton, who could only manage a goalless draw with Sheffield United.

Gillingham took it to 5-1 against Fleetwood, while there were wins for Colchester, Southend, Bury and Rochdale.

At the wrong end of the table, Blackpool move off the bottom after beating Chesterfield 2-0.

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Arsenal 2-3 Olympiakos

Rare Guy: Well Europa league beckons for Arsenal. Definitely losing the next two matches.

Kabanda Victor: Imagine Arsenal playing Thursday night football?! A nightmare.

Greg, Somerset: So how will Arsenal get in the Champions League next year when we are down to three teams qualifying...

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Porto 2-1 Chelsea

Chelsea conceding goals from corners? Unheard of. Chelsea actually played alright tonight going forwards - Diego Costa was ace - but at the back they were all over the shop. 

Arsenal 2-3 Olympiakos

Mark Lawrenson

BBC Radio 5 live in the Estadio do Dragao

Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger
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"If you are the Arsenal manager, you've just signed a goalkeeper, it’s the first time in a long time you've had a top goalkeeper, you've had David Seaman and Jens Lehmann, now you've got Petr Cech, you have to play him.

"Cech is the best keeper, and it was imperative they won at home tonight, with Bayern Munich coming up. To concede three goals at home to Olympiakos? Who have never won a competitive tie in England?"

Arsenal in trouble?

Arsenal 2-3 Olympiakos

Arsenal have never lost their opening two games in the Champions League before - and next they face Bayern Munich home and away.

Is the run of qualifying from the group for 15-straight years coming to an end?

Championship update

There's no beginners' luck for Lee Carsley as Birmingham make it 2-0 at Griffin Park through Clayton Donaldson.

Full time at both fixtures - Brentford 0-2 Birmingham, Fulham 0-3 Wolves

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Why is this 'another showing' that the Prem is overrated? We saw the 14th and 4th placed teams lose. It's not as if these two teams are running away with the league and then showing poor form in Europe. Let's see what 1st and 2nd bring tomorrow before dismissing the whole league.

Alejandro, London

It seems like a long long time since Premier League regularly had 2-3 teams in semi-finals. #leftbehind

James, London

Elsewhere in Europe

Robert Lewandowski
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A big win for Bayern Munich at home to Dinamo Zagreb and three more goals for Robert Lewandowski. He got his 10th goal in three matches as the Germans won 5-0 at home. 

There was a shock in Belarus as BATE Borisov beat Roma 3-2, while Barcelona came from behind to beat Bayer Leverkusen 2-1.

And in the other game in Chelsea's group, Dynamo Kiev beat Maccabi Tel Aviv 2-0 in Israel.

(Not so ) Premier League

Kenedy looks dejected
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English clubs have now lost five of their six Champions League matches this season, with only Chelsea winning at home against Maccabi Tel Aviv.  

Lucky 13

Arsenal 2-3 Olympiakos

Before tonight Olympiakos had lost all 12 of their away games against English teams in European competition, scoring only three goals and conceding 37 in the process.

That run has been ended now - and they may not be the only team fancying a trip to our shores at the moment...

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Arsenal 2-3 Olympiakos

Diego Costa looks dejected
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And now Arsenal lose too!

The Premier League is taking a kicking. An absolute shoeing. 

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Porto 2-1 Chelsea

Porto take a big win!

CLOSE!

Porto 2-1 Chelsea

Diego Costaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Wide. Just wide. So close!

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Christian Reilly: Another night in the Champions League. Another night showing how the Premier League is massively overrated.  

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Porto 2-1 Chelsea

Mark Lawrenson

BBC Radio 5 live in the Estadio do Dragao

"Diego Costa tried to flick the ball round the defender and it looked like it might have been stopped by a hand. 

"It was right in front of the official on the line, but he didn't even move."

Porto 2-1 Chelsea

Chelsea chuck Kurt Zouma up front but Iker Casillas makes a fine claim. Porto looking like soaking it up.

Chelsea should have had a penalty though - clear handball...

Arsenal 2-3 Olympiakos

Theo Walcott down the left, cuts inside - wide...