Itsy bitsy spider 蜘蛛网
Like many people, Helen is afraid of spiders.
That's unfortunate because in this week's On the Town she and Neil find out about a cape and a scarf that have gone on display at the Victoria and Albert Museum in London.
The clothes have been made from silk woven from over one million spiders!
Listen to the programme to hear an interview with the creators of the silk cape and scarf, Simon Peers and Nick Godley.
You will also find out the answer to this question: Is it really possible to work with so many spiders and still be afraid of them?!