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  1. Updates on Sunday 12 June 2016
  2. More news, sport, travel and weather from 08:00 on Monday

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Our live coverage for the EU referendum debate

Live updates for BBC Spotlight's EU referendum debate have finished, but we'll be back at 08:00 on Monday with the latest news, sport, travel and weather for Devon and Cornwall.

EU referendum: Key points from the panel

Chris Ellis

BBC News Online

Panel
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  • Sir Tim Smit: "I fear the vote that is about to take place could represent the greatest betrayal of the young by the old that has ever taken place."
  • Ben Bradshaw: "Three positive reasons for staying in - peace, prosperity and power."
  • Tim Martin: "It's a vote for democracy if you vote to leave."
  • Anne Marie Morris: "We are bound by regulation, out fishermen are constrained on where they can fish, and our farmers are strangled by the Common Agricultural Policy". 
Audience
BBC

Where does EU money go?

Reality Check

EU budget
BBC

Here's a guide to what happens to the funds the 28 member states contribute to the EU budget.

Read the full Reality Check here.

The main topics: Consumer affairs

Chris Ellis

BBC News Online

This issue covers pricing, safety testing and ensuring customers are treated fairly.

Main views to leave:

  • EU red tape makes goods and services more expensive
  • The recent row over the “tampon tax” shows the EU has too much power, Britain should be able to set VAT rates itself
  • Consumer protection laws existed before the EU and would remain after Britain left

Tampons
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Main views to remain:

  • People in Britain save an average of £450 a year because prices are lower as a result of EU membership
  • Flights and mobile phone charges are among the goods and services that are cheaper
  • The EU ensures that imported goods meet European quality standards

The debate continues after the cameras stop filming

The main topics: Education and research

Chris Ellis

BBC News Online

How education and scientific, technical and medical research relate to membership.  

Main views to remain:

  • UK universities receive millions in research funding from the EU
  • Many of the UK's top scientists come from elsewhere in Europe with the help of EU grants
  • The Erasmus programme allows British students to study abroad

Education
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Main views to leave: 

  • Only 3% of total R&D spending in Britain is funded by the EU
  • The UK will be able to increase funding to science out of savings from not paying for EU membership
  • Britain could set its own immigration policy which could fast track scientists and graduates

Who works for EU and what do they earn?

Reality Check

The question: Alistair asks BBC Radio 4's PM programme: "How many people does the EU employ, and what is their average salary?"

Salary
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Reality Check verdict: 55,000 people are employed by the EU. Most of these people work for the European Commission. Salaries can range from €2,400 (£1,856) to €18,000 (£13,922) per month.

Read the full Reality Check here.

The main topics: Travel and living abroad

Chris Ellis

BBC News Online

This issue covers travel for leisure or work, and living in other EU countries.

Main views to leave: 

  • There is no reason that leaving the EU would make it harder to go on holiday in Europe
  • International law means current expats could not be forced to return to the UK
  • The UK has deals with lots of other countries to help Britons living abroad

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Main views to remain:

  • Flights to Europe and using mobile phones on holiday are cheaper thanks to the EU
  • British tourists enjoy free or cheaper healthcare in other EU countries
  • There is no guarantee that expats in the EU would be able to stay after Brexit

'No guarantee of EU rural funding for UK after 2019'

Would Brexit add two years to austerity?

Reality Check

The claim: The economic impact of leaving the European Union would lead to a loss of £20bn to £40bn from the public finances, extending austerity by a further two years, according to the Institute of Fiscal Studies.

Austerity
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Reality Check verdict: The relationship between Brexit and the public finances may not be exactly as described. But if - like them - you accept predictions that leaving the EU would cut economic growth, it is hard to imagine that would not hit the public finances. Such a scenario would require spending to be cut further, taxes to be increased or the period of austerity to be extended.

Read the full Reality Check here.

The main topics: Trade and economy

Chris Ellis

BBC News Online

How trade and the UK's economy are affected by membership of the EU.  

Main views to remain:

  • Brexit would cause an economic shock and growth would be slower
  • As a share of exports Britain is more dependent on the rest of the EU than they are on us
  • The UK would still have to apply EU rules to retain access to the single market

Main views to leave:

  • UK companies would be freed from the burden of EU regulation
  • Trade with EU countries would continue because we import more from them than we export to them
  • Britain would be able to negotiate its own trade deals with other countries

Farming: EU would 'lead changes to help agriculture from government ignorance'

Andrew Segal

Local Live

Remaining within the European Union would help British agriculture and farming because "the British Government has been fantastically ignorant and unsupportive of British farming, said Eden Project founder Sir Tim Smit.

Tractor
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Although saying "pains me to say it", he added "It's not thriving under central government whatsoever. I think some change is necessary, and I'm more persuaded that remaining in the EU would lead to that." 

Farming: Leaving EU 'could help farmers by looking for more markets'

Andrew Segal

Local Live

Losing some markets within the European Union could help farmers look elsewhere for other opportunities to sell and help them do "very well", Leave campaigner and Wetherspoons boss Tim Martin, says.

Cows. Pic: Andrew Segal
Andrew Segal

He said: "If you speak to New Zealand, who lost most of their markets over here when the UK joined the EU, they strongly feel it's been a shot in the arm to them because it's forced them to look at the world market, and they've done really very well."

Has EU money worked in the South West?

Neil Gallacher, Business & Industry Correspondent

BBC Spotlight

It's impossible to demonstrate that Cornwall's exceptionally high levels of regional aid have done much to turn the local economy around.

Back in 2000, it was often said that Objective One was the only shot Cornwall would get at top-level European grant funding. So, six years later, it came as quite a surprise when the county's key economic measure (output per head) was still so low by EU standards that Cornwall qualified for a further six years of funding. 

And six years after that, it came as a further surprise when the county was once again deemed so poor as to need a third round of top-level assistance. 

Some argue EU grant assistance is too blunt a instrument to effect proper change. But there are other explanations. One is that the schemes developed may just need longer to come to fruition and grow the local economy. It is also possible that, without the funding Cornwall has had, the local economy might have been far more badly hit by the years of the global financial crisis - nobody can say for sure.

Tim Smit heckled he 'got majority of EU grants cash'

What sort of things has EU money been spent on?

Neil Gallacher, Business & Industry Correspondent

BBC Spotlight

  • Big capital developments such as the Penryn University Campus, the Eden Project, and Davidstow Creamery
  • Improvements to infrastructure such as superfast broadband and the expansion of Newquay Airport
  • High-tech and green projects, including innovation centres and renewable energy schemes
  • People-focused developments, such as skills training and business support.

Some money, notably in the early years, went on projects that hit the headlines when they ran into difficulties, such as South West Film Studios at St Agnes and the Gaia Energy Centre at Delabole.

Economy: EU has 'kept peace and security'

Andrew Segal

Local Live

The European Union and European co-operation has helped keep peace in the continent for may decades, Remain campaigner and Exeter Labour MP Ben Bradsaw says.

Ben Bradsaw
BBC

He said: "My father was at Dunkirk. He lost a lot of friends and comrades. He was one of those who helped build the institutions after the Second World War because he said: 'Never again'. The history of Europe for hundreds of years was mutual slaughter. We cannot throw away the peace and security we have just like that."

How unusual are Cornwall's 'Euro-millions' of regional aid, by British standards?

Neil Gallacher, Business & Industry Correspondent

BBC Spotlight

Very - and they reflect the low earnings of the far South West.  

According to a 2012 report from the think tank Open Europe, Cornwall - because of this regional aid - is one of only two places in Britain where the local community can claim to be a net recipient of EU funding, the other being West Wales.

Britain as a whole is a net contributor to EU funds.  And Open Europe said that although Cornwall was a net beneficiary, Devon - given its lower level of EU funding - was a net contributor to EU funds, like the rest of the country.

Cornwall
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Cornwall 'has slipped further into deprivation despite EU funding'

Economy: Unelected EU 'not a good recipe for prosperity'

Andrew Segal

Local Live

The UK would be better off out of the European Union "because you lose the bureaucracy," Leave supporter and Wetherspoons founder Tim Martin claims.

Tim Martin
BBC

He said: "History clearly shows that democracy creates better prosperity and freedom, and having rules made by people who haven't been elected is not a good recipe for future prosperity."

He added that figures which claimed up to 45,000 jobs could be lost in the South West as a result of Brexit was "complete and utter fantasy and nonsense".

This is how Cornwall's "Euro-millions" break down:

Neil Gallacher, Business & Industry Correspondent

BBC Spotlight

Under what was called Objective One (2000-2006), Cornwall got £350m from the EU. But when you include all the match funding, it was about £900m. Match funding is money that comes from UK Government sources and the private sector, and it's required in order to secure the grants from the EU.

Cornwall
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Under the so-called Convergence Programme (2007-2013), Cornwall got another £439m from the EU, but, including all the match funding, it was £1.172bn.

Under the current Growth Programme (2014-2020), Cornwall is earmarked for a further £460m from the EU at today's exchange rate.

How much regional aid has the South West had from Europe?

Neil Gallacher, Business & Industry Correspondent

BBC Spotlight

Since 2000, the money Cornwall has had from Europe is £800m and counting. And what's true of Cornwall is true, to a lesser extent, of Devon and Somerset.

Beach
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Leaving EU 'will let us try and get a fair deal for fishermen'

The main topics: Farming and fishing

Chris Ellis

BBC News Online

How the UK is affected by the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) and EU fishing policies.   

Main views to leave: 

  • Britain pays more for the CAP than it gets back, so leaving the EU would make more money available for UK farmers
  • The CAP also wastes lots of money on bureaucracy
  • The Common Fisheries Policy has devastated the British fishing industry

Cow
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Main views to remain:

  • Many British farmers would go out of business without the support of the CAP
  • 73% of UK farming exports go to the EU
  • It was the EU that forced France and Germany to lift bans on British beef
  • Fisheries have to be managed to prevent over-fishing

How would Brexit affect fishing waters?

Reality Check

The question: Rosemary asks BBC Radio 4's PM programme: "Would the UK have its fishing waters returned to the pre-EU status if we vote to leave?"

Fishing
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Reality Check verdict: It depends on what kind of agreements the UK makes with the EU and whether it would allow foreign vessels to access its Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ).

Read the full Reality Check here.

The main topics: Farming and fishing

The debate:

  • The Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) remains the EU’s biggest area of spending although its share of the budget is falling
  • EU subsidies account for 50% of British farm incomes
  • The EU’s Common Fisheries Policy sets rules for the amount of fish each country’s boats can catch.

Fishing: Leave supporters 'can't just say where they'll fish'

Andrew Segal

Local Live

Leave supporters could not just unilaterally declare where they would fish if the UK left the EU, a former fishing minister says.

Trawler. Pic: PA
PA

EU co-operation had helped diminished fish stocks recover and "manage the resource", even though it meant "difficult decisions" that affected the industry, Remain supporter and Exeter Labour MP Ben Bradshaw said.

He said: "We have to conserve fish stocks. We can only do it by working with other countries. The idea that if we unilaterally did this [declaration] and upset every other country in Europe, that we would somehow get a better deal than we get at the moment, I think it's for the birds."

Fishing: Rights to waters 'will be negotiated'

Andrew Segal

Local Live

Rights to fish in waters which are not British will be discussed in future negotiations to preserve the British industry if the UK leaves the EU, Devon Conservative MP and Leave campaigner Anne Marie Morris says.

Fishing nets
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She said: "There will be a negotiation, and, if we leave, we will go back to international law. That gives us a very strong bargaining position to get fair share access - as other nationalities would bargain to get fair access to our waters. Not everybody wants to just eat mackerel or just eat cod. ... it's not about drawing a line and saying 'thou shalt not fish here'." 

Anne Marie Morris
BBC

Tim Smit: 'Strange racism about Johnny Foreigner' comment 'out of context'

EU debate 'has become conflated with immigration debate'

EU referendum: Anne Marie Morris

The main topics: Immigration

Chris Ellis

BBC News Online

This issue covers immigration and free movement within Europe.  

Main views to leave: 

  • It is impossible to control immigration as a member of the EU
  • Public services are under strain because of the number of migrants
  • High immigration has driven down wages for British workers
  • Points-based system for migrants to the UK should be extended to include those from the EU

Facts and figures
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Main views to remain:

  • Immigrants, especially those from the EU, pay more in taxes than they take out
  • Cameron's EU deal means in-work benefits for new EU migrant workers will be limited for the first four years
  • Outside the EU the UK would still have to accept free movement to gain full access to the single market
  • Immigration is good for the economy

Migration: Seasonal workers are a 'completely different issue'

Andrew Segal

Local Live

Leave campaigner and Wetherspoons pub chain founder Tim Martin says migration is a "completely different issue" from concerns raised by people who employ seasonal or migrant workers.

Tim Martin
BBC

He said: "There's nothing to stop the British Government if we need migrant workers to pick daffodils in Cornwall to issue whatever permits are necessary for them to come here. 

"The issue is do you allow people in Brussels to let whole countries to come into the EU - there are 88m people being fast-tracked now - or do you control it? We do need people, we're not against foreigners; we benefit from foreigners ... but it has to be controlled through a points system."

Migration: UK 'will allow immigration even if it leaves EU'

Andrew Segal

Local Live

Eden Project founder and pro-European Sir Tim Smit says the UK, which he describes as a "kind nation" would still allow immigration, even if its citizens voted to leave the European Union, to allow it to continue to trade with other EU members. 

Tim Smit
BBC

He said: "I think we will allow immigration from Europe because, if we leave - which I hope we don't - we will want to trade. Therefore we will sign up to an agreement which will force us to be signed up to Schengen [the agreement which enables passport-free movement across most of the EU bloc], just like Norway and Switzerland."

Migration: Current levels will mean 'new Plymouth and Exeter every two years'

Andrew Segal

Local Live

Future migration, even if it stays at the current levels, would still cause "problems with our public services, our hospitals, our schools", Devon Conservative MP and Leave campaigner Anne Marie Morris says.

Anne Marie Morris
BBC

She said: "If we look at the numbers [population statistics], we would have to look having to build [an amount of housing equivalent to] Exeter and Plymouth every two years. 

"If we left ... we need the skills. If we voted to leave, we'd have to have a points system, similar to the Australian system, we would get the people we need. At the moment, we can't get them."

Migration: Voting Leave 'won't stop it'

Andrew Segal

Local Live

Exeter's Labour MP and Remain campaigner Ben Bradshaw says the UK "needs some migration", after being asked how it could affect public services in future, including infrastructure, schools and hospitals.

Ben Bradshaw
BBC

He said: "We're an aging population, like most of the developed world. And when I'm old, I'll need somebody who's going to look after me in a care home. We need some young, hardworking labour for that. If you vote Leave to stop migration, it won't happen. Look at what Norway and Switzerland have to do - both outside the EU but they have to sign up to the free movement of labour to get free access to the single market.

"The pressure on public services is because this Tory government is not investing enough in them."

EU referendum: Immigration

BBC Newsbeat

Fishing - a key debate in the South West