What can England learn from NZ?

The next Rugby World Cup will be staged in England in four years' time.

On Sunday morning, Ritchie McCaw lifted the Webb Ellis trophy for New Zealand bringing to an end this year's tournament.

Chief executive of England Rugby 2015, Paul Vaughan, told BBC Radio 5 live Breakfast what England can learn from New Zealand.

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Breakfast broadcasts weekdays 06:00 to 09:00 on BBC Radio 5 live.

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