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I just don't see the K's beating many of that top ten #79 (no Big George??). They're slow, predictable and have limited movement. I'll be honest about my prejudices though - I cannot stand them! I think they are mediocre, at best, but fortunate to be surrounded by even worse.
Fact that the Ks held a world HW title as far back as 1999 (14 years!!!!). They easily qualify in any top 10.. arguably the best that ever was (who am I 2 argue with the late great Emanuel Steward). Being English obviously it was great to have Lewis,but the facts-he was losing,about to lose,running scared,sent Lewis into retirement). Non-Western,non-black is not a reason to leave them out.
@79 - somewhat agree but the K's would beat most of your top ten. You could argue that's because he is bigger and heavier but Bolt is taller than most 100m runner....
I think while the divison is weaker than it has ever been (certainly in my lifetime) it is largely down to the K's being so good.Make no mistake thay are greats, would they be in a H/W all time top 10 -you could make a compelling argument - that said id have1.Louis2.Ali3.Holmes4.Dempsey5.Johnson6.Marciano7.Lewis8.Frazier9.Holyfield10.Tyson
The idea that the Klitschkos have only dominated because it's a "poor era" is a bit dubious. It's a statement that has more to do with marketing than anything else. The 90s had plenty of entertaining characters, but that doesn't mean the standard of boxing was actually better.It's no coincidence that as soon as America lost its heavyweight dominance to Eastern Europe it became a "weak era".
One has to remember that Haye is a pumped up cruiser-weight, and was the best boxer in planet at that weight and light HW. He certainly never ducked any opponents, nor did not take the easy route by moving up a divisionAt Heavyweight its a different ball game. The Klitchko's are classy individuals in and out of the ring, boring at times to watch but who can deny their pedigree.
@72. They have dominated a very poor heavyweight division. How many genuine, world class heavweights can you name without using the internet?The Klitschkos are good boxers, and would have held their own in many eras, but I still wouldn't rank either of them as a top ten heavyweight of all time.
not sure after that last Klitschko fiasco that he deserves a title bout, bit lippy, nice genuine guy I think but .........not all that really
@ 73 Hmmm, maybe 5 years ago i would of rated Vitali over Wlad but Vitali is on his way out now Wlad still has it... Good point tho i think Haye will not want a rematch he was dominated and taken to school by Wlad (who in my opinion is like the heavy weight version of Mayweather, boring to watch but has a great boxing brain almost impossible to get through his defence)
@72He is after Vitali for a few reasons, of course the main one is Money, the others are, he won't fight vladimir again, he was embarrassed last time, and seems to think Vitali is the weaker of the two (I think the opposite) due to his age.He also knows the chances of teh fight happening are slim, so it will be deemed by some, that Vitali is ducking him
If the Klitschko's were english we would ALL be calling them boxing legends!& be praising them for dominating the heavy weight division for so long.... Funny that :\& why is Haye after an old over the hill 41 yr old Vitali when he should be calling for a rematch with Wladmir?
The reason the Klitschko's fight is to make money. Their fights are embarrassing for their weak inept opponents. Unfortunately there are no fighters fit to stand in the same ring. And of course the Ks are giants.So Haye is right to fight Chisora rather than studying stars while lying on his back in Moscow. And the same goes for other challengers.
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