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mrnoneofyourbusiness; I give up. I have had more success explaining basic stats to my secretary. I trust your lack of knowledge in this area has not cost you too much in life. Still, good to note that you have dropped the idea that I have not seen enough cricket.
A vital sixth bowling option?Roots two overs went for 1-7 today.Goodbye Patel and close the door on your way out of the England team.He weakens us beyond belief.
@66, so who would you replace Patel with? It can only be Buttler or Root from the squad chosen. Patel provides England with a vital sixth bowling option. He bowls far more often than Root, and Buttler doesn't bowl at all. A top six without Patel would leave Pietersen ( and Root if he plays ) as England's only spare bowlers.
@64, it's irrelevant to talk about how many more runs Woakes might have scored in those 26 innings in which he was not out. Ifs, buts and maybes don't count! By the end of his career his first class batting average will be about 20 to 25, which is about what you'd expect from a number eight batsman. Deep down inside you know that!
@64, lower order batsmen have a higher ratio of not outs than top order batsmen. A high ratio of not outs inflates a batsman's average. 26 not outs in 96 innings is an exceptionally high ratio of not outs, therefore Woakes's current first class batting average of 38 is hugely inflated. As his career goes on both his ratio of not outs and his average will come down.
England have lost the second warm up match too, and I was going to get upset but then checked the scorecards and see that Patel was playing so thought to myself, oh that's good we are not taking these matches too seriously.Now it's time to stick him in the same place as Bopara and make sure those two never wear an England shirt again. 2 attrocious cricket players.
mrnoneofyourbusiness; fair point about no of times seen. I am semi-retired and spend many days at Lords, Oval, Rose Bowl and occasionally Hove in the summer. I reckon I have seen Woakes 10+ times, but the others 2-3 times. But batting away from the pads is dodgy for a test bat (not necessarily an ODI bat) even if seen only once.
mrnoneofyourbusiness; simple stats lesson. Average = runs/completed innings. As you say Woakes average is increased by the number of completed innings reduced by nos. The numerator (no of runs) is reduced by loss of runs as he runs out of partners or declares. The effects cancel out. In fact a case can be made that the numerator effect is larger as he loses runs when batted in. Simple really.
patel fails again
@56, Bairstow was in the squad for the ODIs in India but withdrew for family reasons and was replaced by Root. He has been named in the squads for the following T20 and ODI series in New Zealand.
@53, how often have you seen the players you mention live? I doubt you've seen any of them often enough to make an informed opinion about them. I've heard and read a lot of good things from many respected commentators and journalists about Bairstow, Root, Stokes and Taylor.
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