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@67Red Hare will subtly undermine Froome at every opportunity. B4 he was going about how he can't win the Vuelta, next it is the Giro. According to him he can't cope with bad weather in Italy on May. I doubt that is even an issue. It is obvious the Giro doesn't make for good TDF prep. Red Hare just ignores that even though every man and his dog has that view.
@66 Red HareNow will you stop insisting that Froome doesn't like high mountains?
Old school climbing like Nibali and Contador showed today, you don't see that much anymore. Yesterday Trentin and Rojas - rouleurs, remember, not climbers - went up a cat 1 climb fairly easily, but at an even pace, basically TT-ing uphill. Pedal dancers, at least ones that can distance others, are rare nowadays. It's not clear why.
Actually agree with Red Hare here, surprisingly. Sat/Sun will clear things up on whether Froome has it wrapped up or not. 2 horse race ATM between him and Nibali. Nibali could hold onto Froome in the time trail and peg him back on stage 20. Nibali is rested. Froome not. But for me Froome looks really good/strong and will win comfortably.
Froomey does it again, there is just no stopping him at the moment. He has now got a little more comfortable lead.Good days racing at some points again.
That final response to Nibali's dig was masterful. That has got to be discouraging. But how much energy did they both spend chasing Lopez??Nibali is still in the mix though. Saturday's and Sunday's stages are going to be crackers.
Cracking stage...just when it looked like Froome had cracked, he came back and put the pressure on everyone else.The fatigue in a 3 week stage race is obviously cumulative, and some top 10 riders lost serious time today.Its funny listening to the BBC news, the Vuelta was pronounced voo-oelta, and Bernard Hinault was Bernard Highnote !!Next few days may see some huge gaps in the top 5.
Oh dear, Nicholas Roche, hero to zero in 1 day!
Some of the climbs in Spain are super steep.I remember being near the top of Alp D'Huez during one of Big Migs wins, and the helicopter that beams the pictures was way below us....just incredible !!!I love the Gavia and the Mortirolo in the Giro, the Pyrenees generally in the Tour, and Lagos Covadonga and Angliru in the Vuelta.Makes Holme Moss look like a flat road!!
@58 Yikes!! That's Rosedale Chimney-esque...and Froomey will probably do it at his usual cadence of 100-odd rpm.Not many mere mortals could even get up that without toppling into the verge.
Was looking at the route again. Stage 17 finish - Alto de Los Machucos has a 28-31% gradient in parts?! That's worse than the Angliru!I know the Vuelta roadbook doesn't always tell the truth, perhaps deliberately, but it actually looks like this is accurate.
There's a multitude of stories in the peloton on any one day, including some more interesting than the race. All it needs is for people to want to talk about them. Here's one that struck me (being discussed elsewhere). Cannondale has started a crowdfunding platform to raise several million euros in 2 weeks. While it looks unlikely to raise 7m, even 3m could save the team.
As for the grand tour arguments, the Giro and Vuelta have slightly lost my interest somewhat since they decided to make the routes so sprinter unfriendly that the stars don't bother attending. The so called sprint stages in Spain have not really needed slow motion replays. Very disappointing.
I didn't comment on yesterday's stage, or any other come to that, because it has usually all been said after the first two or three serious comments. I do wonder why the BBC open a HYS knowing it's going to descend into drugs, nationality, and now Lycra. But here's my view, Froome lost a little yesterday, but could have lost the lot with one accident, so fair play. TBC
Normally the highlights are good but, I guess because the road was too narrow, we saw very little of the descent, and none of Roche getting away, which was pretty disappointing. (On ITV 4 anyway, maybe Sky had more, but I assume they all get the same feeds.)
@47, 45You're welcome to contribute, rather than complaining about the quality of the conversation.@48Nibali and Roche apparently rode that descent at speeds of up to 70kph. In the wet. With debris on the roads. You wouldn't drive down that quickly. That's real descending!
I see the race to the bottom continues apace.Sir Chris Hoy has just had to apologise for "body shaming" people without any sense of humour whatsoever.I despair; I really do.
@44, I ware mountain bike shorts, best of both worlds, I don't need the aerodynamics of skin tight clothes
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