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@101 Charlieboy Er. Gosh! Did you?
@103Except they aren’t. The Tours and Giros from the 21st century are all in the 30 fastest races measured by average speed (up to 2016). I can’t find data for the Vuelta. There’s no pattern though as far as I can see. 2014 was a very fast year for both the Giro and the Tour. So was 2005. The fastest race from the 90s is 99 from the Tour and 98 for the Giro, both ranking 9th fastest.
101. charlieboyI first started getting interested in tdf in 70s .. The plucky brit might finish 150th. We did have a work champion in those years.103. charlieboyI think what maybe is possibly an indicator is average speeds decreasing.Average speeds are increasing thanks to better bike technology and riders refusing to ride difficult roads.
@60 wormhole. 1. ive always believed drugs were part of cyclingsport...always. 2) lance was doing what everyone else did...but only better (i dont agree with it) and 3) every forum re cycling turns into drugs. All im saying is its 'boring' that every single story turns to drugs chat. Lets talk 'sport' and its daily changes, sprints, climbs, elbows whatever....sick of drugs talk
@97......Stop making things up as you go along........it would take a lot more than you to upset me.Calm down and maybe stay off those coloured winegums as its making you into a hyperactive selfappointed blog supervisor.
Back to the race. Just saw highlights. Dumoulin looks impressive. Yates needs to take a lot more time out as he will lose quite a bit on the tt. At this stage i would go for tom. Brian smith going on about froome stage win. Unless he got wings cant see how when he loses time most stages. Use it as training ride and go again in tour.
68 Quack - in fairness 86 Kevin has answered query about whether it was Yates's fault or responsibility.But the problem is they all deny automatically.Some of them are definitely doping.Then, if the margins are so small how can a clean rider beat the cheats.Far too many riders are suffering serious health issues post retirement - more than other sports. Not saying doping only cycling
The first year we've managed to watch the Giro, loving it. Well done Simon (keep thinking Sean!), it's turning into a cracking contest.Also, a shout out to Quest for showing the highlights.
@93. Not sure thats evidence. I think what maybe is possibly an indicator is average speeds decreasing. Less cyclists being caught too? Or just more clever? In athletics world records becoming rarer or nowhere being challenged which means to me previously were drug induced.
Yates can win the Giro! There, I said it. However, it comes with a caveat - he must take time out of TD at every opportunity because the World TT champ will beat him by 80 - 90s in the ITT.Froome came to this race undercooked and his falls have literally knocked his confidence as much as his body.
@100. Er. I made that point yesterday. Yes so true. I first started getting interested in tdf in 70s when you got 10 mins highlights on world of sport each saturday. The plucky brit might finish 150th. How things have changed.
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