2018 FIFA World CupTM
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"anyone who lives here, takes with one hand and points with the other is a complete hypocrite and should consider leaving" - no what we do is try and create equitable settlements to the best of our ability, try and dismantle structural barriers such as institutionalised racism etc. and then try and export better ways of living/good governance to those who request our assistance.
1036. Paul Sutton "taking with one hand pointig with the other" is very assumptive. With every day at work I give to the country with my taxes and service, and have been unemployed a total of about 2 months in my 20 plus year working life. I very much reserve the right to point and judge where it's warranted
King pug ‘the three degrees didn’t walk off they made the chanting irrelevant ‘ that’s one way of looking at it however it took a couple of generations for things to start changing in this country so perhaps if they had it may have given insperation to everyday people like the lrish,Afro carribean and Asians that were suffering from the same thing all the time and not just on Saturday afternoons
1040. Wayne Emirates. N Ireland is not an ‘English territory’. We are getting carried away with racism here. Fans chant because they want to wind up the opposition, not because they are necessarily actually racist and based in this HYS they will succeed. The best way to deal with it is to ignore it - and win.
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Wayne I think you missed my point.
Only reason I brought up the subject of colonialism is because it's the main reason England has black players in the first place.
Paul SuttonMy father is Anguillan, which is an overseas British territory in the West Indies.My mother's side is from Northern Ireland, which ironically, is another English territory.Do you see a pattern developing?I am not a hypocrite. -"Anyone who lives here points with one hand a takes with the other". England has taken with a thousand hands. It's okay to be humble
Its down to the referees to protect players. Be that from racism, intimidation, missiles, threats or anything else from the crowd. If there is any of this then the referee should stop the game and only restart it after the crowd have been advised to change their behaviour. If it happens a second time, the crowd should leave and the game be finished behind closed doors perhaps at a different time.
The trouble is the punishments do not outweigh the costs of sorting it all out.Until FIFA change and start to deal out tournament bans for countries and then ban them from hosting major events for a certain amount of years this will carry on.The amount of money that Russia will earn from this World Cup outweighs anything that FIFA will throw at them so we why should they care.
Walk Of The Pitch That Will Stop Them Doing It AgainFIFA need to be looked at again how did Russia ever get the World Cup knowing what they know? The Bribes must be doing the rounds again!
Say what you like about my country and it's history but anyone who lives here, takes with one hand and points with the other is a complete hypocrite and should consider leaving, the foundations and evolution of our country are built on the good and bad whether you like it or not. Whats done is done. Anyway England don't walk off the pitch!
Fletch 1030You're right, I would be misguided to blame 'anyone' English for the atrocities suffered at the hands of an empire. Especially since we're living in post-modern times. I disagree though that an elite few benefited...there are countless trickle down and generations and generations of beneficiaries with major stakes in today's shares and financial stockmarkets.I'm half Irish btw
@Wayne Emirates … try getting out of that bedroom and away from your keyboard for once and see the world.Things have moved on for most of the world (the UK being one of them). By your logic we should be blaming the Italians for the Roman Empire.Every country has a past that its not proud of, its important that they learn from it and move on, Russia has a problem but wont deal with it.
1032. Posted by Wayne Emirates You seem to want to impose modern morality on the behaviour of people centuries ago.In the modern world Slavery, Racism, homophobia and antisemitism are all unacceptable, I don't feel the need to apologize for the behaviour of previous generations because I am not guilty of any of those things.
1026It's okay to acknowledge that your country is not Snow White my friend. It's okay.
Backwards countries like Russia and Qatar should never have been allowed the world cup in the 1st place!
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