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I know, I mean there were races where he fell down the field and won through eg Suzuka 88 and Donington 93, and I guess reliability was worse back in that era, but I thought he must have won from lower, apparently not
@147 I cannot believe that stat. He never won a race starting lower than 5th? Wow! You are surely correct that will shut up some of the Vettel haters.
This may sound sacrilegious, especially seeing as I'm a massive Senna fan, but Ayrton Senna never won a Grand Prix starting lower than 5th. If we judge him by the same standards that people judge Vettel by, then he wasn't worthy of his titles right?
Romain had the edge on Kimi the first half of the season? Did he? In quali which didn't equal results? On the poduim? On the points scoreboard? Check your facts next time. Kimi is thrashing his junior team mate as expected. He is about to thrash Hamilton, and will push Alonso all the way to the WDC.
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@143 read the @142 post
139.surteesIf you really want such a deserving person to get a gong go nominate them.petionions are not the way forward when it comes to nominations if the person is not nominated they will never be consideredyou can find out how YOU can nominate someone for a gong by following this linkhttp://www.direct.gov.uk/en/governmentcitizensandrights/UKgovernment/honoursawardsandmedals/DG_067917
Andrew Benson what utter rubbish!clearly you are happy to ignore the fact McLaren have cost lewis if not the lead of the championship certanly more than 40 points through constant mistakes. without these mistakes Lewis would easily be leading the championship but you dont want to admit that do you or the fact as witnessed at the last race lotus clearly had the fastest car.try to be honest
I have been really impressed with the seaon so far up until hungary i have said this will come down to lewis v fernando. But i dont want to change my ming but i now see kimi as the emerging threat. Can this man really win the wdc in his comeback year. What a prospect
@137 I agree that FA and MS are the best team leaders of this generation, some people don't like that but it is and always has been a part of the sport. Regarding LH I actually think he has got better, especially this season. I can't really blame him for 2007 as he was a rookie, you aren't going to know how to lead a team. He is a lot better this year, still the odd mistake but a lot lot better.
Alonso is like a team manager/motivator inside a driver, slightly different to how schumacher did it, who was more behind the scenes. Nobody comes close to these two for leading their teams. I honestly don't think Ferrari would have hung on in there with such a terrible car with any other driver. Hamilton possibly has the best raw speed but is poor as a team leader and cost McLaren dearly in 2007.
@135 I like Alonso and Massa as he drives for Ferrari and I think Alonso is the best, however I think LH is right up there with FA and so is SV. At the end of the day it's just a bit of fun between F1 fans and I actually do admit when I'm wrong or when someone makes a better point than me.. The whole point of a blog and comments is to have a bit of a debate, it's fun.
@133 why the need to debate? you have already just advised us who you think is the best. thats why i laugh so much with the comments, you never gonna please everyone and its always a personal choice
But to continue my point I think if you say I think .... Is better than .... An this is why .... And you actually write points on what you think and why then that's okay. All part of a good debate. But I agree I don't like it when people come on here and say .... Is rubbish, because clearly none of them are.@124 you believe what you read on wiki?
@128 totally agree and I think that is what is going to happen and hope Alonso will do it.@130 & 131 I agree and I like Both LH and JB. I'm not trying to bash either of them and of course they are both brilliant to be there and to be WDC. I just like debating the points of who is better and who I think is best. Which is Alonso. But none of mine are personal, Both good blokes in my opinion.
131. No1 isFaster than me - totally agree
All this Jenson and Lewis bashing is getting very boring now. I just don't understand why both can not be supported! They both are world champions.They are both English and seemingly have a good relationship together. Yet continuos slagging appears on here. Some of the comments on here are fantastic but others are pathetic. Skipping through the slagging comments is taking longer than ever.
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