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77, you're entitled to your opinion of course but as a mechanical engineer ill go by the performance figures. As for judging a car's performance by its looks... I'm not sure if there still is but there was quite a waiting list. Not my cuppa but difference makes the world go around.Not succeeding is no reason to give up.
I think Honda are now between a rock and a hard place - if they continue, maintaining the current mediocre results they are underperforming , if they pull out without any race wins then they risk complete failure and the associated loss of face. Both are unacceptable to most Japanese, so the real solution is that McLaren need to appear to take the blame by terminating the contract.
72. F1KnowledgeHaving driven the old (proper) Type R's and the new ones i can safely say the new Models dont feel as much fun, they seem very tame.I have many friends who are into tuning Japanese cars and they all say the same thing. Plus the new Civic type r looks like it was designed by a 10 year old
Eddie Butler, beware!Having read this article, it sounds like Benson is after your job narrating about the past glories and triumphs of yesteryear over the top of, well, over the top music.Eddie, I don't think you'll need to worry about those dulcet tones joining the dole queue though. I imagine that Benson is more bleat than baritone...
https://www.statista.com/statistics/267276/worldwide-automobile-sales-of-honda/https://www.statista.com/statistics/239229/most-sold-car-models-worldwide/the stats show honda doing very wellit surprises me how badly the internet is NOT used :)
@70 I wasn't suggesting that failing in F1 equates to less cars being sold. I was stating that Honda were struggling to sell cars before they came back into F1 and came back into F1 to try and promote themselves but that kinda gone badly wrong hasn't it.
70. UK-Minardi-FanThe case with Ferrari always used to be that if they were building good road cars the f1 cars were terrible and vice versa, This is the first time in a long time that they have they best supercar (la ferrari) and good race cars, good times for Ferrari :)
68, I think you'll find they are.69, many many car reviewers don't agree with you.I suggest you wiki mugen as it appears you think it's independent of Honda.The merc engine is ilmor. The Renault engines have a lot of ilmor ip.Why don't people know the basics Benson?
Favourite moment - 1998. Schumacher chasing Hakkinen hard with Coulthard out in front. And then BANG - Coulthard's engine blows - the crowd get on their feet. In the ensuing chaos and out of the cloud of smoke Schumacher senses an opportunity and dives down Hakkinen at the chicane to take the lead. Murray on the tv commentary going full on Murray and the tifosi going ballistic. A perfect moment.
@68Is there any evidence to suggest that F1 failure leads to a drop in car sales? After all BMW weren't that successful in their time with Sauber but sold truckloads of road cars. And Ferrari sells road cars no matter how successful the F1 team is (and they spent most of the 80s and part of the 90s losing).
67. F1KnowledgeThe old type R cars of the 90's were great, Im sure they were developed by Mugen.The new type r's are terrible.
@67 Honda is not loaded.and other sporting involvements Honda have are significantly less technical and cheaper. Given they have been trying 3 years to become competitive and completely redesigned their engine last year which actually made them even less competitive and more unreliable! Honda have completely and utterly failed and the only way to stop damaging the brand is to full out of F1.
62, that doesn't explain the type r, nsx, bikes etc etcThe same can easily be said of merc. The average age of the ferrari owner is rather high.Ilmor rule the engines in f1. I wonder who came up with the idea?Merc bought ilmor. Mario has helped redbull (tag) and Renault so far. The Honda package does promise better results. Honda is loaded!!!! Better to advertise than pay tax.
@65.SportsAddict2000Wow :) :)
@62 for once I totally agree with you lol. @61 I don't think that is true re their money because of the Japanese economic crisis and the variety of issues with their road cars of late. I think F1 is a bridge to far for them and I fully expect them to pullout completely.
Just a shame we can't actually watch it.
@55Radio is the greatest broadcast medium.It is portable, practical and powerful.Long before 24hr TV it was often the only way to follow sport from F1 to boxing to football et alI still love it & always will.
61. F1KnowledgeHonda vastly underestimated how complicated these engines are.Their road cars are generally made for the elderly so i guess their f1 engines are quite representative of their brand lol
any decision will be Honda's as they bring far too much money into F1. Hopefully FA is going to FO.Williams could play a blinder and take on Honda's freebies while Mclaren get mercs.It would also explain williams drop in form since Stroll's 3rd place.
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