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Stephan Shemilt and James Gheerbrant

All times stated are UK

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  1. Post update

    And that is where our day comes to an end. Honours even? Perhaps. Set up nicely for tomorrow? Definitely. See you then.

  2. Post update

    Speaking of tomorrow, today's rain mean we will start a little earlier, with play set to begin at 14:45 BST.

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    But then Marlon Samuels jolted into life, finding the throttle after leaving his way to 50. His duel with Ben Stokes was the most compelling action of the day, while the returning Moeen Ali was wayward and punished. When the light closed in, Samuels was sitting on 94, his stand with Denesh Ramdin worth 59. The Windies 188-5, honours about even and nicely poised for an important first session tomorrow.

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    Geoffrey Boycott

    Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Moores and Cook chose to bring Rashid out here and now you hear things like he is not bowling well enough in the nets and they do not have any faith in him. Rashid is the type of player who could be expensive but can take wickets. You need a captain that can handle a player going through periods of being expensive but can take wickets for you."

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    The Windies battled hard, England weren't always at their best with the ball and three catches went down, yet, somehow, the home side were reduced to 129-5. Dwayne Bravo wasted some good work with a limp edge to slip off Stuart Broad, Shivnarine Chanderpaul loosely chipped Ben Stokes to gully and the impressive Chris Jordan pinned Jermaine Blackwood lbw. Soon after tea, the Windies were in trouble.

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    Geoffrey Boycott

    Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "I am not blaming the players for a slow day of the cricket it is the pitch. These are slow, turgid batting pitches and if you had two good teams you would need 10 days for the Test. I was not opposed England choosing to bowl but because the West Indies are not a good side. If it had been me I would have batted, I do not expect any imagination from Moores or Cook. This is a slow surface like the last one and on the last day you would have loved to swapped Rashid for another fourth seamer - who is just up and down."

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    It seems a long time ago that England won the toss after a near two-hour rain delay and opted to field in conditions that seemed ideal for swing bowling. James Anderson certainly thought that was the case, bowling Brathwaite with an unplayable in-swinger, but some inconsistent bowling and watchful batting meant England had to wait until the end of the first session for their second breakthrough. Even then, it was an error, Devon Smith didn't hit one that was given caught behind off Chris Jordan. 36-2 at lunch.

  8. Close of play scorecard

    WI 188-5 (70 overs)

    Batsmen: Samuels 94*, Ramdin 6*

    Fall of wickets: 2-1 (Brathwaite 1), 28-2 (Smith 15), 65-3 (Bravo 35), 74-4 (Chanderpaul 1), 129-5 (Blackwood 26).

    Bowling figures: Anderson 15-8-18-1, Broad 16-5-42-1, Jordan 16-3-40-2, Moeen 12-1-45-0, Stokes 10-4-33-1, Trott 1-0-2-0.

    England won toss and chose to field.

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    Geoffrey Boycott

    Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "I feel a little disappointed for the spectators, the players and Test match cricket because a lot of people came very far to watch a day where it was hard to score runs. It was hard for the batsman and bowlers to get on top. Crowds are going down and you are wanting people to watch Test cricket but I feel the groundsman here has ruined the pitch."

  10. Close of play

    WI 188-5

    Finally, that is your lot. West Indies close on 188-5. Hard to tell who is on top, but we can say that the Windies would be a lot worse off had Marlon Samuels not weighed in with his unbeaten 94. Remember, they were 129-5 and would have bitten your hand for this position when James Anderson cleaned up Kraigg Brathwaite early this morning. England have been good in parts, not so good in others. They have dropped three catches.

  11. Bad light stops play

    WI 188-5

    The umpires are still in the middle. The bails are off, the stumps are still in. The groundstaff want to get the covers on, but are being made to wait.

  12. Bad light stops play

    WI 188-5

    It might not be the close, but we can say with certainty that bad light has stopped play. Everyone is marching off, James Anderson the last to go after a word with the umpires. It's hard to imagine a situation where the light will improve enough to bring them back out, but for now, we await the official close.

  13. WI 188-5 (Samuels 94, Ramdin 6)

    England, under umpire's orders, throw the ball to Moeen Ali. If they decide they've had enough, they could get one of the pacers on and see us to the close. If Moeen keeps bowling long hops, that's exactly what might happen. Samuels pulls for four, nearing a hundred. Hang on, where's everyone going? Is that it?

  14. WI 184-5 (Samuels 90, Ramdin 6)

    Hmmm, we've reached that time of the day when England can't summon any more efforts from their front-line bowlers, so ask Jonathan Trott to dob down his medium-pacers. Not really threatening, but at least it brings the Barmy Army song to the tune of the Only Fools and Horses theme. Tidy from Trott, a couple of singles from it. The umpires have a little chat about the light, with lightmeter out to take a reading. It's decided that there's only enough light for the spinners.

  15. WI 182-5 (68 overs)

    Ben Stokes

    Alastair Cook stands at slip, hands on hips and gum in mouth. He has a word with vice-skip Ian Bell, then starts counting the fielders, as if to make sure they are all there. "I'm sure we more than this when we started". Stokes, breathing hard, gets one past the bat of Samuels and into the batsman's thigh. That'll sting if it's missed the thigh pad. Getting darker again.

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    Andrew Hornby: With Moeen Ali now finding his rhythm this would have been a great point in the game to have two spinners on, turning in both directions had they picked Adil Rashid instead of Stuart Broad. We know what Broad brings and Rashid might have been more suited to this wicket.

  17. WI 180-5 (Samuels 88, Ramdin 4)

    Moeen continues to wheel away, throwing his elbows out before twirling the ball down. A looper off the front pad of Samuels has both keeper and short leg interested, but nothing doing. When Moeen drops short, Samuels cuts for four to move nearer the 90s. Which team is happier at the moment? England would have wanted six or seven wickets after winning the toss and fielding, whereas the Windies are rebuilding with purpose. This stand is now worth 51.

  18. WI 174-5 (66 overs)

    Stokes slips in to his nemesis Samuels in light that seems to be improving. The Durham man has sweat glistening on his forehead and tattoos on both upper arms. I believe the cool kids call it "ink". No histrionics between Stokes and Samuels, who is denied runs to third man by the dive of Joe Root at gully. A maiden. I reckon there are 13 overs left in the day, if we can fit them in.

  19. WI 174-5 (Samuels 83, Ramdin 4)

    Moeen asks the question against Samuels, who was hiding his bat but still convinces Bruce Oxenford that he's playing a shot. Better from the brilliantly bearded Moeen, who has landed on a better length. On those surrounding hills, some local children try to get a kite flying. No joy.

  20. Why are overthrows called 'buzzers'?


    Julia Ball in Stevenage: A "moll-buzzer" is archaic street slang for a pick pocket who targets women. "Buzzing" is picking pockets so presumably a "Buzzer" would be someone who steals on the sly....which is exactly what you do when "stealing" runs for an overthrow.

    Simon Gleaden in Redford: I think "buzzers" as a term for overthrows originates at Eton College and that it was the Old Etonians Brian Johnston and Henry Blofeld who popularised it by using it on TMS.

  21. WI 173-5

    Still Stokes, but his duel with Samuels is on hold as Ramdin negotiates an over of in-duckers with some watchful defence. Good pace from Stokes, who touches 90mph. He's charging towards that hotel-type building and, beyond that, some small white houses built into the hills that surround the ground. In the stands, the Barmy Army sing their version of The Lion Sleeps Tonight. I'm fairly certain it has something to do with which beer they will be on later.

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    William Lambie in Birmingham: The problem is that grounds want four sell-out days with last-minute ticket sales for day five, and they're all terrified, after the amounts they have to shell out on getting a Test match in the first place, of losing money. So the ICC needs to cover ticket losses in the event of an early finish to encourage surfaces more conducive to a result.

  23. WI 173-5 (Samuels 82, Ramdin 4)


    It will be Moeen Ali, who immediately gets one to turn sharply through Ramdin's gate. Beats everyone and goes for a bye. When Samuels gets down to the business end, a horrible long hop is pulled to the boundary. In all honesty, Moeen isn't having the best of days, while Samuels is eyeing a hundred before the close. This stand is worth 44 from only nine overs.

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    Geoffrey Boycott

    Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "I would have left Rashid in England to play county cricket. I would probably have left Broad and Jimmy at home as well. It is going to be a heavy summer with Tests and ODIs against New Zealand and we have to play better against the Australians this summer. If we had had a good World Cup they may well not have come but I think the selectors chose the best team to save a few people's jobs."

  25. WI 164-5 (62 overs)


    Still Stokes v Samuels, the feisty Durham all-rounder v the laconic biffer from Jamaica. A word from Stokes, a word back from Samuels. Stokes will be pleased to see that from Marlon, the fact he's managed to get a word out mean he might not be fully focussed on his batting. Some big reverse hoop, clipped for a couple, Samuels having a word has he jogs past. Ah, Stokes breaks first, hurling the ball back at Samuels and giving away some overthrows. Steve Davis has another word. I reckon a twirl of Moeen Ali might be the way to go against the rampaging Samuels.

  26. Email

    Ian Lawrence: Instead of a penalty shoot-out (see 21:52) why not rule that a team has won if the team batting last do not get within 80-100 (maybe 150) runs of the team bowling's second innings total?

    That way, the third innings team need to bat and make a big enough total to negate the 80-100 runs rule and might just get bowled out in the process, thus allowing the fourth innings team to chase a total that might be achievable if only to force the draw?

  27. WI 160-5 (61 overs)

    In a 27-run partnership, Ramdin had contributed nothing before sweetly driving Broad straight down the ground for four. Broad responds by finding a hint of reverse swing, arcing the ball back in to the right-hander, who has to skip around to keep it out. Still plenty of clapping and drumming in the crowd, who are beign entertained more now that at any other point in the day.

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    Geoffrey Boycott

    Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Everybody will struggle to score but there will come a moment in the game when a batsman will work really hard and then there will be 20 minutes when they will get runs. He has lost his patience. When he first started to play cricket he did so with such ease, lazy, no trouble timing the ball. He does not think too much. The best thing Ramdin can do is keep him off strike and let him calm down. He could have been out a few times in these last five minutes."

  29. WI 156-5 (Samuels 70, Ramdin 0)


    It's almost as if Marlon Samuels has passed 50 and has decided that every ball now has to go to the boundary. Did you ever play Brian Lara Cricket and try hitting everything for six? A bit like that. He's throwing the bat at the spider-like Ben Stokes, with the result being a slash over point for four, a couple through extra cover and a thick edge between third slip and gully for four. Stokes, not renowned for being able to keep his emotions in check, is boiling like a kettle, with umpire Steve Davis having a word. Samuels living dangerously, but moving the score on. This is the most watchable cricket of the day.

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    Geoffrey Boycott

    Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "Except from the one mistake when he should have been caught, he's played splendidly. He's held the innings together after being one of the three to give their wickets away with bad shots in Antigua."

  31. 50 for Marlon Samuels

    WI 146-5

    Marlon Samuels' three-and-a-quarter hour duty has yielded a 22nd Test half-century, completed by punching Stuart Broad down the ground. Next ball, Samuels looks to celebrate by launching the ball off the island, succeeding in hitting only fresh air and almost dislocating his shoulders. Broad, never short of something insightful to say, offers Marlon some batting tips. Samuels then biffs over cover for four. Nice contest.

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    Brain Mainwaring: Dominic Cork. Robbie Williams. Slash (Guns n Roses). Stoke on Trent. Let me entertain you.

    Neil Reader in Ipswich: Best I can do for my home town of Ipswich is 80's legend Nik Kershaw and Aussie opener Shane Watson (ok he is Ipswich, Queensland).

  33. WI 135-5 (Samuels 49, Ramdin 0)

    Grenville, do you mean a shootout exactly like they do in football? So if the match is drawn, they stick some goals on the outfield and take five kicks from the spot? Wicketkeeper goes in goal? I'm not sure it would catch on, but I'd like to know which international cricketers you'd back in a penalty shootout. Chris Jordan, who seems to have been bowling all day, has a good root around Marlon Samuels by employing a full length. When Jordan drops short, Samuels takes four through point.

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    Grenville Cross in Pretoria, SA: A friend of mine from Slovakia who knows nothing about cricket could not believe that after five days playing the last Test ended a draw. Something must be done. Why don't they have a shoot out like they do in football?

  35. WI 130-5 (Samuels 44, Ramdin 0)

    Broad strains his way towards the diminutive Ramdin, who has two slips, two gullies and a shortish mid-on for company. Some back-of-a-length stuff has captain Ramdin jumping about, but the wicketkeeper remains. It's getting darker and there are no floodlights. Bad lightingtons to stop play at some point?

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    Graeme Swann

    Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "If England had bowled to their best in this match then the West Indies would have been seven or eight down now. We have seen England get teams in these positions plenty of times in last couple of years but have allowed them to go on and get 320-350 - with the likes of Haddin and Holder in the last Test getting away."

  37. WI 130-5


    So the Windies are five down and England have also dropped three catches. It hasn't felt like a bowling performance good enough to create eight wicket-taking chances, yet Cook will feel like his side are justifying his decision to bowl first. Marlon Samuels, well on with an emotionless, gum-chewing vigil, plays back a Jordan maiden as the band continues with its wall of sound from the stands.

  38. Latest scorecard

    WI 130-5 after 55 overs

    Not out batsmen: Samuels 44, Ramdin 0

    Bowling figures: Anderson 15-8-18-1, Broad 12-4-26-1, Jordan 14-2-35-2, Moeen 8-1-27-0, Stokes 5-2-17-1

    England won toss and chose to field

  39. WI 130-5 (Jordan 14-2-35-2)


    Chris Jordan was pleading with Davis as he appealed, giving it a "come on, man" when the umpire shook his head. When the decision was overturned, there were fist pumps from both Jordan and the staff on the England balcony. Jordan was rewarded for keeping a fullish length, the slight nip doing for Blackwood, who planted that front dog. Captain Denesh Ramdin is the new man, watching from the other end as Marlon Samuels gets away with a horrible flat-footed swipe at Stuart Broad. This could yet be a very good day for England.

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    Michael Vaughan

    Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "It is a really good review when you think that England have lost one already. Some many times with lbw it is umpire's call. Jordan has bowled nicely, of all the bowlers he looked like he was the one who was going to take a wicket and he has. The clouds have just started to back over and maybe that is having a bit of an effect."

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    Blackwood lbw Jordan 26 (WI 129-5)

    England players

    Gone! The decision is overturned and Jermaine Blackwood is on his way. Chris Jordan just got that to nip a little off the seam, with Blackwood playing all across the line. The replay shows that Steve Davis got it wrong and the ball would have clattered the leg stump. Stuart Broad's drop doesn't prove too costly and England are cockahoop. They are halfway through the Windies batting.

  42. Umpire review

    WI 129-4

    It's hit Blackwood on the knee-roll. No inside edge...

  43. Umpire review

    WI 129-4

    This has got to be very, very close. Chris Jordan to Jermaine Blackwood, batsman playing around the front pad. Looks dead, but Steve Davis says no. I'm reviewing and Alastair Cook is too. High?

  44. Email

    Owen from Whitley Bay: Michael Vaughan - we doctored our pitches exactly the same when the Aussies came last time. Dry, spinning pitches when we knew we had Swanny. The West Indies are simply setting their pitches up to play to their strengths, the same as we did. It's a shame we don't get seaming/swinging pitches like Trent Bridge anymore but we stopped them intentionally! So we need to practice what we preach.

  45. Blackwood dropped on 20

    WI 126-4


    Another chance goes down! This time it's Stuart Broad off his own bowling, Jermaine Blackwood chipping the ball back. Head height, to Broad's left, through the hands and for four. That's three England have dropped on a pitch where chances are hard to come by. Already they have to make at least 13 opportunities to take 10 wickets. To add a a little insult, the boundary brings up the 50 partnership.

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    Tony Cozier

    BBC Test Match Special

    "I do not know if the groundstaff know how to make the pitches like they used to. Now they are using the sit down motorised roller and a lot of people feel like that is causing the problem."

  47. WI 122-4 (run-rate 2.40)

    Stuart Broad, floppy sunhat on his head, goes through some looseners as Jordan creeps in. Is it a bit early to be lamenting how slow the pitch is? Don't judge until both teams have batted, etc. Having said that, it looks to have all the pace of a wardrobe and the run-rate has not threatened 2.50 all day. When we start talking about " a day for the purists" and "an absorbing day", it usually means the cricket has been a bit turgid. One from it, a wide. Says it all.

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    Test cricket's future

    Michael Vaughan

    Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "I take quite a reckoning from my little lad who is nine, he turns on the television and sees the Big Bash - he sees the lights and colours and music. He does not turn on the television for Test cricket. Of course it's a much larger market you are looking at but you have got to market and sell Test cricket better to the younger audience and playing on a pitch like this will not do it any good. I am sure the groundsman has done his best."

  49. WI 121-4 (Samuels 42, Blackwood 20)


    James Anderson comes round the wicket to Blackwood, shifting Gary Ballance to a short leg that is just behind square. I'd want a suit of armour to stand there, there's a high risk of the ball being whipped at a fleshy part of the body. Anderson targets Blackwood between hip and head height, with the right-hander weaving to get out of the way. I'll be honest, it's not thrilling stuff.

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    Ed Smith

    Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "One of the odd features of this ground is there is a lime green scorecard and in right front of that there is a small one that is changed by hand. The electronic one didn't work for the first couple hours of play."

  51. WI 121-4 (Jordan 12-2-31-1)


    Since that Cook drop of Samuels, it's all been a bit flat for England, the ball not looking like to beat the bat, which is slowly getting on top. Samuels, laid back, but in a slightly dozy, rather than a cool way, tickles Jordan for a couple, then plays out the rest of the over with minimal fuss. I wonder if England are thinking they are a spinner short of an attack.

  52. Post update

    Ed Smith

    Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "A microcosm of the pitch is the way Blackwood played one of the balls in that over. He played it from the crease more backward then forward and it seemed like he had half an hour it play it. These types of pitches are not good for international cricket."

  53. WI 119-4 (partnership 45)


    Jermaine Blackwood, crouching and squinting, now has a helmeted silly point for company as Anderson arcs some in-swingers towards the timbers. When Anderson drops short, Blackwood leans back to upper-cut over the slips for four. Phil Simmons, the West Indies coach, doesn't even crack a smile. He perhaps still remembers the awful shot that Blackwood played in the second innings at Antigua. It's pretty gloomy out there, I'd bet a penny to a tenner that we won't make it through to the close without seeing a light meter.

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    Cricketers and pop stars

    Stuart Onslow: Jos Buttler was born in Taunton. So were the Wurzels! Altogether now! 'We've got a brand new wicket keeper..'

    Min Patel and Mick Jagger both attended Dartford Grammar School in Kent - Robert in Houston, Texas (also a DGS old boy)

  55. WI 115-4 (48 overs)

    The hard-done-by Jordan continues to shuffle in to Samuels, who is wearing a black baselayer underneath his white playing shirt. Looks a bit village - does he not have a white one? The building that Jordan is running towards looks a bit like a hotel, albeit one that isn't yet fully built and where you'd be lucky to not find a creepy-crawly in your bed. Ooofff, that's horrible from Jordan, Samuels cutting a long hop for four.

  56. Join the debate at #bbccricket

    Ben Thapa: How long does one man (namely Cook) go without seemingly doing anything useful individually, before things become untenable?

    David: Hope the next thing Alastair Cook drops is himself.

    Mike Brookes: You can't drop them as an international cricketer!

  57. WI 109-4 (Samuels 34, Blackwood 16)

    If England have been winded by that drop, then Joe Root is doing his best to chirp some oxygen back into their lungs. James Anderson responds with a bumper that has Blackwood jack-knifing backwards, with Root asking for "half an hour that, boys". Anderson continues to bend his back as the steel band (or what I think is a steel band) continues to tap out the soundtrack of the day. I wonder when England's next chance will come.

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    Graeme Swann

    Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special


    "Ian Bell at second slip flinched a bit which made Alastair Cook think he was going for it and put him off. It was a very full ball and the slips are standing very close because of the slow pitch - Cook just took his eye off the ball slightly. It should have been taken."

  59. Samuels dropped on 32

    WI 108-4

    Oh, skipper. What's the old cliche? "There's no such thing as an easy slip catch." Well, this is one of the easier ones and it's gone down, giving Marlon Samuels a life. Widish from Chris Jordan, Samuels throwing the kitchen sink and getting only a thick edge, the ball travelling to the right of Cook at first slip, about hip height. The captain gets two hands to it, but never comes close to catching the it, the ball dropping to the turf and allowing the Windies to take a single. An under-pressure skipper has to take those.

  60. WI 107-4 (Samuels 32, Blackwood 16)

    Indeed it is Anderson, still swinging the ball, albeit with the radar slightly skewed towards the leg side. On the England balcony, Paul Farbrace is slumped in his chair like a man auditioning for a part in the Royle Family, while Ottis Gibson sips from the tiniest tea cup you have ever seen. Either that, or it just looks small in his giant hands. Uneventful over.

    The Royle family
  61. Join the debate at #bbccricket

    Cricketers and pop stars

    Tony: David Gower, born in Royal Tunbridge Well, where both Shane MacGowan & Sid Vicious both resided for a while. All three born in 1957.

    Juxtaposed: Nasser Hussain was born in Madras like grammy award winner AR Rahman of Jai Ho fame from the film Slumdog Millionaire.

    Tim Keogh: Andrew Strauss, Alex Hales both played as youngsters at Gerrards Cross Cricket Club - as did Joe Keogh, singer of Amber Run.

  62. Close!

    WI 106-4

    Ooohhh, a pretty rank ball from Chris Jordan almost gets him a second wicket. A wide full toss, moving away from Blackwood, who throws his hands through it. The ball flashes between those two gullies, past the dive of Ben Stokes and away for four. James Anderson goes through some arm-loosening exercises at mid-on, the man with more wickets than any other England bowler looks set to pick up the attack from t'other end.

  63. Post update

    Andrew Samson

    BBC Test Match Special statistician

    "England have had a number of teams that have gone into a match with 10 players having scored fifties, but never all 11. However, at Lord's v India last year, Plunkett got a fifty making all 11 in that team having a Test 50. The England team at Lord's and Nottingham last year had 9 players with Test 100s in them."

  64. WI 102-4


    The players are back after their brew break - Chris Jordan will be bowling to Jermaine Blackwood with two slips and two gullies sniffing an edge.

  65. Text 81111

    Cricketers and pop stars

    Nick currently in Copenhagen: Freddie Flintoff is in esteemed company from Preston - Jessica Taylor from Liberty X, Ken Nicol from Steeleye Span and the seminal British thrash metal band Xentrix.

  66. Post update

    When a man isn't on the live text, he's sent to the shop to get the biscuits in. I've done my bit - chocolate and digestives. Snacks will be important in this marathon final session of the day. We could be playing until 23:30 if the light holds.

  67. Post update

    Right, it's time for me to bid you adieu and leave you in the capable hands of Stephan Shemilt...

  68. Jimmy's dad talks to TMS


    Michael Anderson on TMS: "I can't claim much credit. When your son's playing for England you don't step in - you just leave the coaches to it. Jimmy used to come down and watch me playing on weekends. Every evening when I came home from work we would play out in the garden, and he wouldn't let me give my wicket away - he would always made sure he got me out. I think when he was 16 or 17, he shot up to six foot and started bowling fairly quickly - then I realised that he might have something."

  69. Jimmy's dad talks to TMS

    Michael Anderson on TMS: "I'm very proud. It was a long wait - it was such a flat wicket in Antigua. For the whole family to be together when he did it was fantastic. It was such a good delivery to get the [record 384th] wicket, and quite appropriate that Cooky took the catch - their careers have followed a similar path."

  70. Finn hopeful of improvement

    Following remedial work Finn is starting to believe he has a lasting solution - thanks largely to watching video footage of him at his best.

    "I came back to England and had to realign everything, but it's not easy once you've grooved bad habits," he said.

    "It's taken a long time, but this running thing could be the last piece in the puzzle.

    "You can see when I was running up as a carefree 21-year-old, I just legged it to the crease - it was natural. As I've had to think about other things, there's been tension that has come into my run-up."

  71. Finn opens up on bowling problems

    Steven Finn

    Steven Finn has given a remarkably candid interview today that is just reaching us. In it he identifies the decision to shorten his run-up a couple of years ago as the source of his bowling problems - but blames nobody but himself.

    "The short run got canned quite quickly after it came in," he said. "I think that's what cocked me up really - looking back at it, coming off a short run made everything tense and made me force bowling quick.

    "It worked for a brief time in New Zealand. I didn't quite have the feeling of bowling well, but I was getting the results - so it was masked over.

    "The short-term fix wasn't a fix to the long-term problem. It's taken a bit of unravelling, but it's no-one's fault other than mine."

  72. Post update

    Geoffrey Boycott

    Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "You felt that England looked a little stronger and well equipped for this surface. The West Indies batting and bowling is patchy. In all honesty it should be 102-2 not 102-4. Then they would have thought, having been put into bat on this pitch, they were doing ok. On this surface patience is key and this West Indies side are not known for that. They can play nicely for 25 minutes but then have a wild swipe. They do not have the resistance or adaptability to play this type of game. They play well and then do something rubbish."

  73. Post update

    So England with the upper hand after two sessions of the first day, although the West Indies have battled hard and shown admirable resilience at times.

    It was a session of two halves. For the first hour England looked toothless, but the wickets of Darren Bravo and Shivnarine Chanderpaul in quick succession have given the scorecard a much more pleasing look for the visitors.

  74. Post update

    Stay tuned to TMS at tea time. they have a special guest - none other than James Anderson's dad - Michael Anderson. A proud man, no doubt.

    James Anderson's dad and Jonathan Agnew
  75. WI 102-4

    Moeen to deliver the last over before tea. Blackwood brings up the West Indies' 100 with a single to deep square, and he, alongside Marlon Samuels, makes it safely through to tea. England will be relatively happy with that session, though.

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    Cricketers and pop stars

    Will in Altrincham: Jimmy Anderson and Jonny Marr both live near Altrincham.

    Ian Mills: Cliff Richard and Suresh Raina are both from Lucknow!

    James Marshall: The small town of Bellshill in Scotland is where Mike Denness came from. Along with pop star Sheena Easton, Sir Matt Busby and Ally McCoist.

    Giles in Leicestershire: Stuart Broad attended Oakham School. So did Jay Kay of Jamiroquai.

  77. WI 98-4 (Samuels 29, Blackwood 11)


    Stokes, his meaty biceps girded with ink, continues. He has his arms aloft in appeal-cum-celebration when he produces an absolute pearler that cuts Blackwood in half like a magician's assistant. But there's no edge there, much to his chagrin. And then he gets Blackwood driving recklessly outside off. Bit of afters between the two as well, clearly no love lost out there.

  78. Text 81111

    Cricketers and pop stars

    Ollie in Sheffield: Joe Root's hometown of Sheffield has a rich musical history. Arctic Monkeys and The Human League to name two.

  79. WI 93-4

    Samuels blocks out the rest of Moeen's over.

  80. Post update

    Tony Cozier

    BBC Test Match Special

    "It was a big confident appeal as Samuels stretched a long way forward. Umpires give the batsmen the benefit when they come forward. There was always going to be a good chance it was going to Umpires Call. It was worth a review. There is a body of belief that if it does come back Umpires Call then the team should lose their review."

  81. Not out

    The ball-tracking system shows the ball clipping the top of leg stump, but not by enough to overturn the on-field decision.

  82. Umpire review

    Moeen Ali hits Marlon Samuels on the pad - the umpire says not out, but England want a second opinion...

  83. WI 92-4 (Stokes 4-2-12-1)


    Ben Stokes has been playing on Marlon Samuels's patience - offering him nothing, keeping him tied down and after ten scoreless deliveries off the Durham man, Samuels snaps, and chases a big booming drive that he slightly miscues, but hits well enough to force behind point for four. England would dearly love another wicket before the interval...

  84. Join the debate at #bbccricket

    Cricketers and pop stars

    Christopher Gabbett: Legendary Australian frontman of Cold Chisel, Jimmy Barnes, lives in Bowral, NSW. So did some bloke called Bradman.

    Nigel John Mundy: How about Bristol's WG Grace and The Brilliant Corners.

    Robin Fry: You couldn't tell from his accent, but Jonathan Agnew is from Macclesfield - just like Ian Curtis

  85. WI 87-4

    That's better from Moeen - a much, more accurate probing over that forces Blackwood to play out a maiden.

  86. Email

    Stephen Downer: Derek Underwood was born in Bromley, Kent, where David Bowie studied art, music and design at Bromley Technical High School (source: Wikipedia).

    James Eady: Aren't Steve Finn and Elton John both from Watford?

  87. WI 87-4 (Samuels 22, Blackwood 7)


    Marlon Samuels has really curbed his usual enthusiasm for big shots today - just two fours from 74 balls so far for the Jamaican. He plays out a second consecutive maiden from Stokes.

  88. Text 81111

    Tattz in Nottingham: Backing Moeen to take a fair few wickets in the second innings. He will need this first innings just to remember how to play test cricket again. Good to see genuine turn from an English spinner though!

  89. WI 87-4

    Moeen Ali is reintroduced - will that catch have imbued him with confidence? It doesn't look like it - his first ball of his new spell is short and wide and cut for four by Samuels, and then Blackwood milks him for two. Penny for James Tredwell's thoughts, not to mention those of Adil Rashid?

  90. WI 80-4 (Stokes 2-1-7-1)

    Jermaine Blackwood showed in the first Test that he can operate in fits and starts - and sure enough, after driving his first two balls down the ground, he plays out a shotless maiden from Stokes.

  91. Post update

    Jonathan Agnew

    BBC Test Match Special

    "Unless the light improves it looks like we might have a curtailed day - there are no floodlights here in Grenada."

  92. Join the debate at #bbccricket

    Cricketers and pop stars

    Silas Gregory: Did we decide that Bell is a Coventry lad? If so, that's The Specials' home town.

    Alan Compton: Liam Plunkett shares his Nunthorpe hometown with Amelia Lily of 2011 X-Factor fame.

    Ian D: How about the 'Royal Borough' of Croydon, birthplace of both Kirsty McColl (who saw Elvis at her local chip shop don't forget) and the whole Surrey and England Butcher dynasty!

  93. WI 80-4


    England have really toiled at times in this session, but they've been rewarded for plugging away - and what a blow the dismissal of Chanderpaul is for West Indies. The Guyanese veteran just didn't get his weight into the shot, he was playing too far away from his body. Broad continues to test Marlon Samuels with a fullish length, and Marlon Samuels continues to search for his timing - squirting one to square leg and then under-edging to cover.

  94. Join the debate at #bbccricket

    Oliver Metcalfe: I turn on TMS, and the very next ball, Chanderpaul goes. You're welcome, British public.

    Anthony Berry: Got in the bath, England took a wicket. Dropped the remote which changed the channel, England get a wicket.

  95. WI 80-4 (Samuels 17, Blackwood 5)

    Jermaine Blackwood is the new batsman. He had a game of two halves in the first Test - making an impressive maiden century in the first innings, then losing his wicket to what Jonathan Agnew called "one of the worst shots I've ever seen" in the second. But he's away nicely here - punching a single down the ground, and then driving sweetly to the mid-on boundary.

  96. Post update

    Jonathan Agnew

    BBC Test Match Special

    "What an awful shot from a nondescript ball. He reached for it and just spooned it up to Moeen. What a gift. It was a horrible shot. There have been some gifts today and especially from a player of Chanderpaul's experience."

  97. WICKET

    Chanderpaul c Moeen b Stokes 1 (WI 74-4)


    Ben Stokes is brought into the attack, and he strikes with his second ball! It's the prized wicket of Chanderpaul, but what a tame dismissal for such a famously dogged batsman - driving loosely and spooning one to Moeen Ali at gully. That's Stokes's first wicket of the series.

  98. Post update

    Jonathan Agnew

    BBC Test Match Special

    "That ball was hit hard and it still only went for three, so you can see what effect the rain overnight and today has had on the pitch."

  99. WI 73-3


    Big appeal from Stuart Broad when he raps Samuels on the pads, but no dice from the umpire - sliding down leg that one. Samuels has barely played a shot in anger today but he does get the final ball of the over through the infield - only for Chris Jordan, probably England's paciest outfielder, to haul it in just before the rope.

  100. Post update

    Michael Vaughan

    Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "You wondered how long it would take England to realise that two spin options on this pitch was needed. It has only taken 20 overs really. Broad is bowling a decent spell. It is going to be one of the weeks where the cricket is going to called attritional. I would rather they turned to Joe Root next. He got Chanderpaul's wicket in the last match."

  101. Text 81111

    Cricketers and pop stars

    Neil in Hexham: Yeovil, which can lay a part claim on Sir Ian Botham, was also home town to late 80's Indie band The Chesterfields.

    Neil in Chester: Brian Close, Yorkshire and England captain, came from Leeds as did my favourite band of the 70's (somewhat tongue in cheek)... the infamous Grumbleweeds!

  102. WI 70-3 (Samuels 12, Chanderpaul 1)


    Moeen Ali hasn't quite got it right so far - he's just struggling to test the batsmen with a consistent line and length. There is good purchase off the wicket though - he gets one to spit off the track and beat Chanderpaul's tentative forward poke.

  103. Post update

    Michael Vaughan

    Ex-England captain on BBC Test Match Special

    "They were playing the patience games and then Bravo just lost his patience. It was a good catch from Cook - any slip catch on this ground is going to be a good one because of how close they are standing."

  104. Join the debate at #bbccricket

    Jack Mendel: That sums up Darren Bravo in a nutshell. Beautiful cover driver.. comparable with Lara. Then dreadful waft outside off...

  105. WI 67-3

    Shiv Chanderpaul won't be overtaking Brian Lara in any hurry of course - more like a venerable old motor crawling past you when you're stuck in traffic than a boy racer screaming past you in the fast lane. He blocks out Stuart Broad's latest over.

  106. Email

    Cricketers and pop stars

    Colin Stephenson: There is a couple from my home town, Warrington. John Crawley and Neil Fairbrother and Rick Astley and Jay from Five.

    If 'Cricketers and Pop stars' isn't a reality TV show in the making, I don't know what is...

  107. WI 67-3 (Moeen 3-0-12-0)

    Mo' from Mo. Chanderpaul, who fell to spin in both innings in Antigua, gets going with a nudge past backward point.

  108. Post update

    Graeme Swann

    Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "It was just angled across, it was a very non-descript ball and an even more non-descript shot. He faced an hour and half of Jimmy Anderson, with the ball swinging every where and left it alone and this was a non-descript ball from Stuart Broad and he's just stuck the bat out. There was one of the most pointless dives after taking the catch from Alastair Cook."

  109. Post update

    Shivnarine Chanderpaul stats graphic
  110. WI 65-3

    The redoubtable Shiv Chanderpaul is the new batsman.

  111. WICKET

    Bravo c Cook b Broad 35 (WI 65-3)


    Darren Bravo was closing in on his first half-century against England, his bogey side. He won't get there though. Stuart Broad sends down a tempter outside off stump and Bravo, perhaps emboldened by having just driven the bowler for four, has a fiddle at it. Captain Cook pouches the catch at first slip.

  112. WI 60-2 (Bravo 31, Samuels 7)

    Moeen Ali, whose first over before lunch was a rather inauspicious return to Test-match tweakery, is thrown the cherry. He gets some appreciable turn off the pitch - that is what he will offer over someone like James Tredwell, at the expense perhaps of a little guile and experience. Bravo and Samuels continue to push the score at a slow-and-steady pace.

  113. Text 81111

    Tom in Leicester: I think England are right to be stubborn by picking Jordan, he is an exciting talent Flintoff struggled early on in his England career before changing his action.

    James in Sevenoaks: Good to see a sizeable crowd out there today after all the talk of the demise of test cricket outside of England and Australia.

  114. WI 58-2


    Ben Stokes is OK to play on. Hard as concrete-coated nails, that boy. Is he OK to bowl though - he could be needed before long. The first ball after drinks sees Darren Bravo smear Stuart Broad back down the ground, but he doesn't quite time it and it's reeled in before the rope.

  115. Email

    Liam: You so called journalists often refer to Jimmy Anderson as Burnley's finest (18:34). However, you seem to forget that two members of 90s pop sensation Chumbawumba are also from the town.

    Can anyone think of any other cricketers who share their hometowns with famous pop-stars?

  116. Drinks break


    Drinks have been called while Ben Stokes receives treatment. It doesn't luck too bad, luckily. It seems to be his hip that's troubling him, actually.

  117. Post update

    Graeme Swann

    Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "Stokes went for a slide in the pitch but there was no slide in the turf. This is Ben Stokes - the hardest man in the side by a country mile. People might remember Simon Jones doing the same thing in Australia and it ended his career. It was good to see the batsman not running the second run - it is good sportsmanship."

  118. Ouch!

    Ben Stokes has fallen awkwardly and it looks like he may have injured his knee. The physio is on. Let's hope it's not too serious...

  119. Join the debate at #bbccricket

    Ben Pathe: Has Marlon Samuels been getting coaching off Geoffrey Boycott? He's gone from hare to tortoise.

    Mike Ball: Alan in London is right, Broad's bowling record over the last 18 months is good, not sure what all the hate is about?

  120. WI 54-2 (Jordan 8-2-18-1)


    Adil Rashid, clad in his neon yellow substitute's bib, makes himself useful by ensuring that the coolbox is properly stocked ahead of the drinks break. Got to keep busy, haven't you? Chris Jordan, the man whose head would probably have been on the block if Rashid had played, continues to toil away fruitlessly - a no-ball and a single from his latest set.

  121. Post update

    Graeme Swann

    Ex-England spinner on BBC Test Match Special

    "I think on slow and low pitches you have to aim at the stumps and hope the batsman make a mistake or one keeps low. I played against Shannon Gabriel in England. He is a big brute of a man, he is huge. I am pretty sure one of his wickets at Lord's was me. I seem to remember he bowled me - I got out at the Pavilion end.

  122. WI 52-2

    Stuart Broad didn't bowl well this morning despite leaking relatively few runs - he ended up with more misleading figures than those cannily shot '10-week transformation' photos you see on gym billboards. Can he find a more challenging length this afternoon? Bravo continues his steady accumulation with two through backward point.

  123. Post update

    Test Match Special on Twitter: Post lunch session with @Aggerscricket & @GeoffreyBoycott in full flow.

    Jonathan Agnew & Geoffrey Boycott
  124. WI 50-2 (Bravo 24, Samuels 5)

    Finally Chris Jordan manages to coax the somnolent Marlon Samuels out of his shell with a fuller delivery outside off that just shapes away - he draws a false shot from the batsman, but the edge trickles away through gully for four runs.

  125. WI 45-2

    Darren Bravo's defence looks teak-tough as James Anderson gets the ball to swing back with a slightly fuller length - no way through yet for England. "Hang in there, lads!" chirps Joe Root. I can only echo his sentiments as we negotiate one of the less enthralling periods of this Test match.

  126. Email

    Tim: I've just had a Eurika about bowling at the off stump....with the intention of actually hitting the stumps or at least drawing the batsmen forward. Might just work you know.

  127. WI 44-2 (Bravo 22, Samuels 1)

    Four men wait in the slips, their minds perhaps beginning to wander as Jordan struggles to beat the bat. Bravo plays out five dots and then milks a single into the off side.

  128. Post update

    Jonathan Agnew

    BBC Test Match Special


    "England, if they are honest, will think they should have done far better in these conditions. After you get a delivery like Anderson's to Brathwaite the batsman will would have been thinking to themselves I won't be able to get a run out there but they have not made them play nearly enough. That brilliant early ball would have sent a shockwave through the West Indies dressing room. Not much to follow it up though. England are preying on the West Indies' patience."

  129. WI 43-2 (Anderson 10-6-12-1)

    Anderson is managing to extract a little more movement than Jordan, but he's going to have to target the stumps if he wants to draw Marlon Samuels out of hibernation mode. The Jamaican frustrates England with another shotless maiden.

  130. Text 81111

    Alan in London: Over the last 18 months, Anderson and Broad have been England's best Test bowlers with almost identical records. Broad was also England's best bowler by far on the last Ashes tour. Ridiculous anyone's calling for him to be dropped.

    Anthony Cocozza: Are Finn and Tremlett no longer considered good enough? Why? They are both better than Jordan and Broad.

  131. WI 43-2


    This is rather pedestrian fare so far from England's bowlers in conditions that should be offering them plenty of assistance. Chris Jordan runs in with plenty of huff and puff and hits the pitch hard, but he hasn't yet got the batsmen playing and missing as you might expect in such humidity. Samuels is off the mark with a dab into the leg side.

  132. WI 41-2 (Bravo 20, Samuels 0)

    Momentary confusion as Marlon Samuels holds one single bail aloft to signal to the umpire which guard he wants. The umpire doesn't get it. Samuels is in no hurry after lunch - he takes his tally of scoreless deliveries to 16 with four more dots.

  133. Post update

    Geoffrey Boycott

    Ex-England batsman on BBC Test Match Special

    "You want to create a certain amount of pressure and doubt, so you need to be getting at least four balls an over where the batsman is thinking I do not like this. When it is just one ball an over it's nice for the batsman. We could bowl better with the medium-fast bowlers we have. We could be creating more pressure. If you keep giving them problems, you give yourself more chance of getting them out."

  134. WI 40-2 (Jordan 4-1-8-1)

    Did the West Indies batsmen have a big lunch? An extra slice of spotted dick? They've started very sluggishly after the interval, with no runs off the bat in the first three overs. Luckily for them, Chris Jordan abets their efforts to get the scoreboard moving by slinging four byes down the leg side. Ugly.

  135. Email

    Ray in Swansea: When batsmen nick it, don't walk and say they didn't "feel it" everyone laughs. Smith's "wicket" and non-review just goes to show, they may actually be telling the truth!

  136. WI 36-2

    James Anderson got it swinging this morning like Peter Snow's Election Night Swingometer, if you'll permit me a topical metaphor. There's a bit of movement on offer for Burnley's finest after lunch too, and Darren Bravo plays safe - another maiden.

  137. Post update

    Marlon Samuels stats graphic
  138. WI 36-2 (Bravo 19, Samuels 0)

    Chris Jordan had mixed fortunes before lunch - he missed out on a wicket when Gary Ballance dropped one at leg slip, then got his karmic payback a couple of balls later when Smith was erroneously given out caught behind.

    No such drama in his first over after lunch though, as Samuels blocks out a maiden.

  139. Post update

    Right, we're ready to go again. Jordan to Samuels...

  140. Post update

    Come to think of it, it's been a memorable day for sporting forgetfulness. Earlier today, Ding Junhui missed out on a Crucible 147 after forgetting he was on a maximum. Then we saw Devon Smith appear to forget the availability of DRS when he was given out.

    Somebody should remind David Luiz he's got a Champions League match against Barcelona this evening...

  141. Post update

    That Devon Smith business was rather curious, wasn't it? In case you're just joining us, the West Indian opener was given out just caught behind before lunch - but he didn't hit it! So why didn't he review it? Did he forget about DRS? Did he decide that, with a Test average of 25, he just wasn't worth it? Or perhaps he has plans for Saturday and fancies a four-day finish. We may never know...

  142. Join the debate at #bbccricket

    Robert Pheby: If new technology aims to prevent howlers, when a batsman does not edge the ball, the umpires should recall him after replay.

  143. Post update

    Thank you Stephan. For a moment there when the drizzle was coming down, it looked like Stephan wouldn't be able to bring you any actual cricket in his morning stint and I'd be awkwardly converted from first-drop to live-text opener, a la Jonathan Trott.

    But here I am in my usual slot, and with an intriguing afternoon session in prospect. Can England build on those morning inroads, or will Marlon Samuels - possessor of a mighty fine record against England - lead a Windies fightback? We shall see...

  144. Post update

    Right, with the players enjoying a brew and a biscuit, it's time for me to step aside for a little while. Here's James Gheerbrant.

  145. Post update

    BBC Radio Test Match Special

    On Test Match Special at the moment, there's another chance to listen to the excellent BBC Radio 5 live documentary James Anderson: The Wicket Man. If you've not heard it, do tune in. Mark Chapman interviewed Jimmy after every series over the past two years as he neared the England Test wickets record, which he broke in the last match.