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Summary

  1. Boateng scores late against former club
  2. Result: Chelsea 1-1 Schalke
  3. Huntelaar cancels out Fabregas opener
  4. Barcelona, Roma and Porto all win

Live Reporting

By Tom Rostance

All times stated are UK

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  1. Post update

    It's all over for another night then - will the Premier League fare better in the Europa League? You'll find out here...

  2. Manager reaction

    Chelsea 1-1 Schalke

    Diego Costa

    More from Jose Mourinho on the fitness - or lack of - of Diego Costa.

    Mourinho said: "He went to the national team and after the game against France he came back to us injured.

    "He came to us (from Atletico) and he was completely fine. He had a problem again in the national team, not with us.

    "Now we have the problem and now we have to resolve the problem the best we can.

    "Today he was not in condition to play. Sunday we believe he is.

    "Next week against Bolton (in the Capital One Cup) for sure he isn't. We have to manage the situation until the moment he's completely fine.

    "If today he starts the game, for sure he cannot play on Sunday. We have to go step by step."

  3. Manager reaction

    Nottm Forest 5-3 Fulham

    BBC Radio 5 live

    Fulham boss Felix Magath tells 5 live this season has been "A catastrophe…. But I have no doubt we will get up in the table. It's not good enough for Fulham.

    "I am in contact with the owner and we talk every week and I speak with him and I agree with him. The only thing is I am very sad for the supporters…"

  4. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Karl Bowers: Chelsea lost at home to Basel in the 1st UCL game last season & still made it to the Semi Finals; it's a marathon not a sprint

    Yousuf Ali: I agree Costa needs a rest but José could have started Remi. Anyway lessons learned. On to the next one.

  5. Hands-Off Warning

    Felix Magath

    A few callers to BBC Radio 5 live want BBC pundit Danny Murphy as the next Fulham manager. It'll take a lot to tempt him away from Salford Quays!

    Who else could be in the frame? Where's Jean Tigana these days?

    *Felix Magath is still in charge. As far as we know.

  6. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Didier Drogba

    Nosa Osayamen: Sentiments cost Chelsea 3 points..no justification in starting Drogba today

    James Gallagher: English teams not good enough again this season in Champions League. Man City had the best performance, and they still lost

    Kevin Turner: Even playing badly, @LFC the only English team to claim all 3 points in their Champions League match #leadingthway

  7. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Tyler: Mildly disappointed Chelsea only managed a draw at home, but especially disappointed in Drogba's evident rustiness

    Sham Gallagher: That's a poor game from CFC especially being home and that impressive win on Saturday. Thought Schalke deserved the draw.

    Darius Ikyanyon: If anything, this game should send a message to Mourinho that Drogba is no longer the striker to rely on.

  8. Next up

    Next up for Chelsea in the Champions League is a trip to Nani's Sporting Lisbon, while Manchester City host goal-machines Roma.

    They both need to win that one now.

    Nani celebrates scoring for Sporting Lisbon
  9. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Infostrada Sports: Jerome Boateng (90') scored Bayern's 800th goal in European comps. Only Real Madrid (1000) and Barcelona (979) have more.

  10. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Kuntal Majumdar: Drogba had nothing to offer on the pitch. And his presence in the dressing room will demotivate the juniors. #drogbaout

    Maria Fiorentino: Can anyone explain to me why PL players and teams look like horses in League games and look like donkeys in CL?

    Jonathan Cowley: Just like Real Madrid all over again. A great away result at one of the best teams in the world cruelly snatched away. Gutting.

  11. Manager reaction

    Chelsea 1-1 Schalke

    Jose Mourinho

    Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho, speaking to Sky Sports: "We had more than a couple of fantastic chances to win the game but we got a point. It is not the best result but it is a result.

    "In the second half they scored, we had a good reaction and I have nothing to complain about with my players. Of course he [Didier Drogba] did his job, he had a good game and a good contribution. He missed the goal by a few inches and that would have been 2-0 but football is like this. Didier Drogba is not crying because of that miss.

    "Diego Costa is not in condition to play three matches in a week. He has problems when he plays one game, he needs a week to recover and now playing matches Tuesday and Wednesday he can't do it. He was not in a condition to do more than he did."

  12. Post update

    Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho says that he couldn't start Diego Costa tonight, he wasn't fit enough.

    More to follow.

    Diego Costa reacts during Chelsea v Schalke
  13. Championship full-time

    The final whistle has gone in the Championship matches and Fulham are still waiting for their first league win of the season despite coming from 2-0 down to lead Nottingham Forest 3-2. In the end they went down 5-3, thanks largely to Britt Assombalonga's first hat-trick for Forest.

    In the other match Derby came from a goal down to beat Blackburn 3-2 at Ewood Park, with Jamie Ward scoring twice for the Rams.

  14. Player reaction

    Bayern Munich 1-0 Man City

    Joe Hart

    Manchester City goalkeeper Joe Hart on Sky Sports: "We fought hard all night against a good team you know what you get when you come.

    "A here nasty deflection at the end has done us and Jerome Boateng comes back to haunt us. It would have been well deserved draw, we made them work hard for everything. I tend to be busy against German teams.

    "We can match Bayern Munich, we have some very tough games now and we have to play well against CSKA and Roma now. We're confident we can win the rest of our games.

    "Roma won 5-1? Wow. As long as Ashley Cole didn't get one..."

  15. Post update

    Bayern Munich 1-0 Man City

    Phil Neville

    BBC Radio 5 live

    On Yaya Toure's performance: "I thought he was really disappointing tonight. I know he didn't play at the weekend because he was back late from international duty and I don't know if there was discipline problem there but that was not the Yaya Toure we are used to seeing. He was not happy and his body language did not look right."

  16. League One full-time

    It's ended all square at Highbury between Fleetwood and Barnsley with neither side able to break the deadlock, despite the home side having eight shots on target.

  17. Post update

    The Bundesliga take the bragging rights from this week then, two wins and a draw on the road against the Premier League, who need Everton to give Wolfsburg a damn good thrashing tomorrow night to have any sort of credibility left...

  18. Post update

    Bayern Munich 1-0 Man City

    Phil Neville

    BBC Radio 5 live

    "City played better second half but they didn't create that many clear cut chances and Joe Hart was superb tonight. He was probably the best player on the pitch and he was unlucky to be beaten by a deflection."

  19. Post update

    Next up for Manchester City are Roma, who warmed up with a hugely impressive 5-1 win this evening. No easy games at this level of course.

    Roma celebrate their 5-1 Champions League win
  20. HAVE YOUR SAY

    BBC Radio 5 live

    After the full time whistle get over to BBC Radio 5 live and have your say with Mark Pougatch and Phil Neville.

    Fulham Fans, is tonight the end of the road for Felix Magath?

    With Ole Gunnar Solskjaer on the brink, do Cardiff fans think there's anyone out there to change the club's fortunes around?

    And with Jose Mourinho leaving out Costa and Manuel Pellegrini resting Sergio Aguero, did both managers get their team selection wrong tonight?

    Call 0500 909 693, text 85058 or tweet #bbcfootball.

  21. FULL-TIME

    Bayern Munich 1-0 Man City

    And there it is! Jerome Boateng grabs the only goal to give Bayern Munich a big three points.

  22. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Opta Joe: 10 - Bayern's last 10 Champions League goals have come against teams from the Premier League. Nemesis.

  23. CLOSE!

    Bayern Munich 1-0 Man City

    Sergio Aguero is in - stabs it wide under severe pressure from Dante! Last minute of the three added on...

  24. Post update

    Bayern Munich 1-0 Man City

    Mark Lawrenson

    Football Analyst on BBC Radio 5 live

    "Bayern Munich do deserve it because Joe Hart has made about six superb saves but you feel for City because they held out for so long."

    Listen to full 90 minute commentary on BBC Radio 5 live.

    Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini reacts during the Bayern Munich match
  25. FULL-TIME

    Chelsea 1-1 Schalke

  26. CLOSE!

    Bayern Munich 1-0 Man City

    Bayern almost have a second as sub Claudio Pizarro shoots wide...

    Caludio Pizarro pokes it wide
  27. Post update

    Bayern Munich 1-0 Man City

    Mark Lawrenson

    Football Analyst on BBC Radio 5 live

    "It was a great strike. I am not sure if there was a slight deflection but Joe Hart had absolutely no chance. That is a real blow for City."

    Listen to full 90 minute commentary on BBC Radio 5 live.

    Joe Hart is beaten by Boateng's strike
  28. GOAL

    Bayern Munich 1-0 Man City - Jerome Boateng (89 mins)

    And it is Jerome Boateng who breaks the deadlock! You couldn't write it, but it's another cracking strike! The best two shots of his career in the space of 90 seconds. Manchester City just can't clear their lines from Philipp Lahm's deep cross, it drops for Boateng 15 yards out and he cracks it into the far corner, the ball kissing the back of Mario Gotze on the way in...

    Jerome Boateng celebrates
  29. GREAT SAVE!

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Great save again, one handed from Joe Hart! Former City defender Jerome Boateng strides out of defence, he isn't closed down and he reluctantly lets fly from 25 yards, a pearler of a hit too, swerve and power, but Hart gets there to push away...

  30. Post update

    Conor McNamara

    BBC commentator at Stamford Bridge

    Chelsea

    Conor McNamara: Chelsea reinforcements. Remy & Costa.

  31. SUBSTITUTION

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Aleksandar Kolarov is on for Jesus Navas as we edge toward the 90 minute mark...

  32. Championship latest

    Britt Assombalonga has completed his hat-trick at the City Ground to give Nottingham Forest a 4-3 lead over Fulham. Felix Magath's side had come from 2-0 down to take a 3-2 lead thanks to two goals from Ross McCormack and another from Hugo Rodallega. Michail Antonio levelled for Forest before Assombalonga scored his third of the night. In the other game Blackburn have pulled a goal back through Rudy Gestede to trail Derby 3-2 at Ewood Park.

  33. FINAL FIVE

    Into the last five minutes...

  34. PENALTY APPEAL

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Into the last six minutes and Manchester City this time want a penalty kick as David Silva goes down under Medhi Benatia's clumsy challenge. He didn't get the ball - good shout to me...

  35. GREAT SAVE!

    Chelsea 1-1 Schalke

    Eden Hazard again! That is very close, this time stretching to meet Cesc Fabregas's chip, he gets a toe to it and Ralf Fahrmann pushes it away. Hazard has been on top form tonight.

  36. CLOSE!

    Chelsea 1-1 Schalke

    Eden Hazard - a belter of a volley at the back post but it's a yard over the top. Caught that beautifully! Seven minutes left, Diego Costa not had a sniff yet.

    Eden Hazard volleys the ball
  37. DIVE!

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    You can't defend the indefensible - this is a shocking dive from Arjen Robben! So dangerous again as he wriggles into the box but he goes to ground in ridiculous fashion as Fernandinho brushes against him. Referee Alberti Mallenco doesn't book him, but doesn't give a penalty either...

    Arjen Robben goes to ground
  38. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Phil Neville

    BBC Radio 5 live

    "Yaya Toure very quiet tonight and his body language is not great!"

  39. Post update

    Nani has scored...

  40. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Infostrada Sports: Porto's Brahimi is the 4th player from Africa to score a #CL hat-trick, after Drogba (twice), Eto'o (twice) and Aiyegbeni.

  41. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    "Bayern! Bayern! Bayern!"

    It's not the most original chant in the world but it works, the atmosphere has been lifted since Arjen Robben's arrival. We have 13 minutes remaining.

  42. SUBSTITUTION

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Is this the match-winner? Arjen Robben replaces Thomas Muller.

    Robben is out on the right wing. A tip for City's defence: DO NOT LET HIM CUT INSIDE.

    Arjen Robben replaces Thomas Muller
  43. CLOSE!

    Chelsea 1-1 Schalke

    Loci Remy! So close! Schalke make a pig's ear of dealing with a free-kick, goalkeeper Ralk Fahrmann spills it out into the danger zone, Remy shovels the ball back on target and Roman Neustadter clears off the line.

  44. SUBSTITUTION

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Half an hour after he looked crocked, Edin Dzeko does come off. Sergio Aguero is on in his place. Can he nick one?

  45. Text us on 81111

    Jake in Scotland via text: This performance simply cements the fact Yaya Toure is a spent force at this level. For a "big game player" he looks pub league.

    Pete in Havant, via text: Toure very sluggish, too much birthday cake I reckon. Oh no I apologise he didn't get one.

  46. SUBSTITUTION

    Chelsea 1-1 Schalke

    Go on then Diego Costa, let's see what you can do. The Spain striker replaces Didier Drogba as we approach the last 15 minutes. Loic Remy is also on for Willian.

  47. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Joe Hart has a lapse - a real error - as he spills a routine shot from Rafinha, but does well to block Thomas Muller's follow-up. Muller had strayed offside anyway as it turns out.

  48. Post update

    Fulham winning, Hugo Rodallega scoring, Gervinho scoring? Some very odd goings on this evening...

    Hugo Rodallega scores for Fulham
  49. Championship latest

    Fulham are now leading 3-2 at Nottingham Forest after coming from 2-0 down. Britt Assombalonga scored twice for Stuart Pearce's side, with the second coming from the penalty spot, but two goals from Ross McCormack and another from Hugo Rodallega have given the Cottagers a shock lead. In the other match Derby, who were 1-0 down inside the first minute at Blackburn, now lead 3-1, goals from Jamie Ward sandwiching a Will Hughes strike.

  50. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    It's very flat in Munich, as City now have a good spell of midfield possession, but there's not much tempo to the play. We have 20 minutes left - any chance of a goal or two?

  51. Post update

    Chelsea 1-1 Schalke

    Chelsea looked well in control but now have 25 minutes to find another goal.

    Maribor and Sporting are the other two sides in Group G, so a draw would not be the end of the world...

  52. CLOSE!

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Two good chances in quick succession in Munich. First Bayern defender Medhi Benatia beats Bacary Sagna to the ball but heads over the top, before Jesus Navas puts a great ball over at the other end but the falling David Silva can only steer his header wide.

  53. GOAL

    Chelsea 1-1 Schalke - Klaas-Jan Huntelaar (62 mins)

    What goes around, comes around! Cesc Fabregas, who got away with a foul in the build-up to his goal, is stripped of the ball high up the pitch and is possibly fouled but play is waved on.

    Julian Draxler carries the ball 50 yards downfield before finding captain Klaas-Jan Huntelaar on his left. The Dutchman works inside on to his right foot and drills in low. That Didier Drogba miss is magnified now.

    Klaas-Jan Huntelaar scores for Schalke
  54. Text us on 81111

    Carl in Reading, via text: Strong as an ox, assured on the ball, great delivery and scores goals. Ivanovic one of the best right-backs in the world right now.

    Alan in Manchester, via text: Sagna been really poor and out of sorts. Yaya in the game less and less. Time for changes.

    Elliot, a Chelsea fan in Bristol, via text: Drogba is looking so rusty he doesn't so much need the magic sponge as a good dose of WD40.

  55. CLOSE!

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    Is it sacrilege to say it? Dare I? Didier Drogba's best days are behind him. Big miss from the big man as Eden Hazard puts him in with a magic lofted ball over the top, Drogba's first touch is poor and his second one is a dragged shot across goal. Danny Welbeck-esque...

    Chelsea's Didier Drogba reacts during the match against Schalke
  56. YELLOW CARD

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    John Terry is pinged for a foul, and angrily lashes the ball away in anger - right into the top corner! What a strike! Well worth getting booked for.

  57. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Thomas Muller superbly keeps a move alive with an improvised flick into Mario Gotze, but his shot is well charged down. James Milner is warming up as Bayern continue to find an alarming amount of space in midfield. Yaya Toure is looking very laboured.

  58. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    He's human! Pep Guardiola is a genuine human being. He steps onto the pitch to help restart play, tries to clip a 20-yard pass to his left-back but shanks it horribly out of play! Not easy in a pair of brogues, but he is visibly gutted at his woeful pass. Head in hands moment, hand up in apology.

    Pep Guardiola
  59. GREAT SAVE!

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    ...but there is in London, that man Branislav Ivanovic getting in on the end of a flowing move and forcing Ralf Fahrmann into a strong save at the front post.

  60. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    City make a lively start in Munich as Jesus Navas and Fernandinho both get in behind the Bayern defence. No end product though...

  61. Post update

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    Fancy feet from Willian as he beats his man on the outside, fizzes the ball across and it's a tap-in for Didier Drogba - but he misses the ball altogether. Fine ball in...

    Chelsea's Willian drives back the Schalke defence
  62. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Phil Neville

    BBC Radio 5 live

    "City have to be more aggressive in the tackle and they have to play higher up the field. Substitutions are going to be key, Robben for Bayern and Aguero for City and whoever comes on first could win the game for their side."

  63. KICK-OFF

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    ...and Munich. No changes, so no Sergio Aguero yet.

  64. KICK-OFF

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    Back under way in London...

    Klaas-Jan Huntelaar leads Schalke's attack against Chelsea
  65. In the top one

    Brian Clough

    You're quite right Peter. Forest won two European Cups under Brian Clough, and it is 10 years this week since the great man died. Stand by for a fine article from 5 Live's Pat Murphy on Saturday. Well worth a read.

  66. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Russell Higginbotham: A sense of maturity about Man City this year. They may yet lose this game, but they look more at home in the Champions League

    Andy Knowles: Will take that first half City. Lucky not to have conceded a few but good saves by Joe. Chances on break if they play out better.

    Peter Savage: Just to point out to #bbcfootball that of all the English teams in action tonight Forest have had the most European success

  67. Text us on 81111

    Ben in Manchester, via text: Every year Yaya Toure gets worse and worse defensively. He's almost a liability in the big games.

    OJ in Stockport, via text: Both Bayern and City are littered with class and it's never been more obvious than tonight; the speed of passing and the absolute control players from both sides are displaying is fantastic. City really look like they might really assert themselves in Europe this season.

  68. Post update

    No sprites had to die in that first half then. All is well.

    Once City bring Sergio Aguero on, how will that impact on their play? James Milner cracked in the winner in Munich last season, he is another option.

  69. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Opta Joe: 31 - All 31 of David Silva's passes in the first half vs Bayern reached a team-mate. Precision.

  70. League One half-time

    It remains goalless in the only other game in the Football League where Fleetwood host Barnsley.

  71. Championship half-time

    Forest

    There have been six goals already in the Championship with both games 2-1 at the break. Ben Marshall gave Blackburn the lead at home to Derby with less than a minute on the clock but goals from Jamie Ward and Will Hughes mean Steve McClaren's side go in 2-1 at the break.

    At the City Ground Britt Assombalonga scored twice in 21 minutes to give Nottingham Forest a 2-0 lead over Fulham before £11m striker Ross McCormack pulled a goal back for Felix Magath's side, who are still looking for their first league win of the season.

  72. Post update

    Elsewhere in Europe

    It's going to be a long, long journey home for the players of CSKA Moscow unless they can produce an incredible fightback in Rome. Roma, who have former Chelsea and England defender Ashley Cole on the the substitutes' bench, lead 4-0 at the interval. Ex-Arsenal man Gervinho has two of them while Juan Iturbe and Maicon have also netted.

    Barcelona lead Apoel Nicosia, the champions of Cyprus, 1-0 thanks to a header by Gerard Pique, while Porto boast a handsome 3-0 advantage against Belarus champions Bate Borisov.

    No goals for Zlatan Ibrahimovic in Amsterdam so far but Paris St-Germain do lead Ajax 1-0 thanks to Edinson Cavani's effort.

  73. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Mark Lawrenson

    Football Analyst on BBC Radio 5 live

    Joe Hart

    "City will be delighted to get in here goalless at half time. Joe Hart has been by far the standout player in the first half for both sides and he has been outstanding.

    "But when City have attacked they have done so with pace and could get a breakthrough."

    Listen to full 90 minute commentary on BBC Radio 5 live.

  74. Post update

    So in our imaginary three-way Bundesliga v Premier League competition, it's 2-1 to the Germans after that Cesc Fabregas goal for Chelsea.

    Can City get in on the act?

  75. HALF-TIME

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    All square at the Allianz. My half-time prediction is that Edin Dzeko will not be re-appearing. His back is giving him some gyp.

  76. HALF-TIME

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

  77. CLOSE!

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    Schalke manager Jens Keller, and me, think that Julian Draxler has put Schalke level. And he really should have done to be honest.

    It's poor play from Gary Cahill, who backs off and backs off, allowing the pacy number 10 to burst into the penalty area but when he gets the shot away he puts it wide of the far post. Big, big chance...

  78. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Edin Dzeko is back on after a touch of treatment, but all is not well with the Bosnian. He's holding his back but it looked like it was his knee which jarred in the turf.

  79. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Conor McNamara

    BBC commentator at Stamford Bridge

    Jose Mourinho

    BBC Radio 5 live's Conor McNamara: Jose Mourinho

  80. YELLOW CARD

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    All go. Bacary Sagna nods on a City corner to force Manuel Neuer into a save, Bayern look to break away and Edin Dzeko does the necessary, stopping the attack with a sliding tackle on Mario Gotze. He's booked, and he's hurt too.

    He got the ball actually, on second viewing.

    Manchester City's Edin Dzeko lies injured as he receives a yellow card
  81. Text us on 81111

    Ash in Leeds, via text: Feel sorry for Felix Magath. His old team are outplaying the champions of England while his current team are being outplayed by, well, everyone.

    Gareth in Watford, via text: Anyone care to lay any bets on Britt Assombalonga getting capped by England during the current Euros qualifying campaign? At this rate I can see someone like Leicester taking a punt on him during the mid-season transfer window and then once he's in the Prem anything is possible.

  82. Post update

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    Schalke test Thibaut Courtois for the first time, as one-time Spurs and Pompey midfielder Kevin-Prince Boateng rattles one in on target from 25 yards but the Chelsea number one is there to push clear.

    Five minutes of the half remaining.

  83. Post update

    Elsewhere in Europe

    Roma v CSKA Moscow

    It's raining goals in Rome where Roma are now 4-0 up against CSKA Moscow, Gervinho helping himself to two of them. The former Arsenal man has scored as many goals in one Champions League game for the Serie A club as he did in 11 matches for the Gunners.

  84. CLOSE!

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    And another chance for Bayern! Robert Lewandowski is the latest man to steal in between defence and Joe Hart, again he tries to go around the England keeper and again Hart is in the way. What a half from Joe Hart.

    Joe Hart thwarts Bayern Munich's Robert Lewandowski
  85. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Infostrada: AS Roma is the FIRST Italian club in the CL to take a 4-0 lead after only 31 minutes. #ucl #cl #ASRoma.

  86. CLOSE!

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    Chelsea are really playing some excellent stuff this season! What a move this is as Branislav Ivanovic storms into space down the right, hooks over a lovely first-time cutback and Cesc Fabregas arrives on it superbly. Great timing of the run - but this time he leans back and skies his shot! Great opening.

  87. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    I understand the theory of playing Edin Dzeko up front on his own in games like this, but in practice I'm not sure it ever really works. He is made to look slow and cumbersome when isolated and at the moment he just can't keep hold of the ball. Mr S. Aguero will be coming on in the second half, surely?

    Edin Dzeko is challenged by Bayern Munich defender Jerome Boateng
  88. GREAT SAVE!

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Bayern Munich shift to a 4-4-2 and instantly David Alaba thumps in a cracking 25-yarder, full pelt, and again Joe Hart is steady as a rock behind it, pushing the ball out of the danger zone.

    Manchester City keeper Joe Hart
  89. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Monty Madman: We need Milner on for Nasri to close Lahm down. If not a goal is coming from the right for Bayern

    Paul Gibbons: Yaya is the weak link in this City team at the moment he looks so disinterested.

    FootyOgrapher: As a Chelsea fan, I'm glad we did sign Remy to remedy things in the absence of Costa, as Drogba is not the force he used to be

  90. Post update

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    The first glimpse of new Chelsea left-back Filipe Luis's wandish left peg, whipping over a beautiful cross and Didier Drogba thuds the header into the chest of Ralf Fahrmann. A fine target to aim for.

  91. Mr 100%

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    David Silva

    Twenty-five passes attempted. Twenty-five passes completed.

    If David Silva loses the ball a fairy dies.

    Chance at the end of another one of his passes as Edin Dzeko drags a 20-yard shot across goal. Decent position that.

  92. Post update

    And there we were thinking £5.5m was a lot of money for a League One striker...

  93. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Opta Joe: Britt Assombalonga has now scored seven goals in his last six Championship games for Nottingham Forest.

    After opening the scoring against Fulham the former Peterborough striker has now added a second from the penalty spot.

  94. Post update

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    Chelsea look eminently comfortable in their 1-0 lead. Not many sides will pick up points at Stamford Bridge this season you'd fancy.

  95. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Mark Lawrenson

    Football Analyst on BBC Radio 5 live

    "All the City players are a yard off the Bayern players at the moment. It's all too easy to go through them and Munich are playing their three at the back system very well, giving City no chance."

  96. PENALTY APPEAL

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Bayern wanted another penalty with that last chance, as Mario Gotze's shot deflected off the elbow of Vincent Kompany. Nothing given, and the Belgian had no way of getting out the way of that. Great save all the same...

    Bayern Munich manager Pep Guardiola
  97. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Rupert Arvidsson: Fabregas is the new Lampard, goals from midfield. He's even copying Frank's 'slap the badge' celebration.

    Daniel Woodley: @cesc4official should have been sent off before that Chelsea goal. He clearly fouled his man. Shocking tackle

    Hashim Albahbahani: Only disappointing thing about Fabregas's goal is that it wasn't assisted by Fabregas.

  98. Post update

    Elsewhere in Europe

    Juan Iturbe of Roma

    Frustration for Barcelona at the Nou Camp where the four-time European champions are being held by Apoel Nicosia. Lionel Messi has forced a save from a free-kick but the champions of Cyprus are holding their own.

    Goals elsewhere as Roma, who are in the same group as Manchester City, are already 3-0 up against CSKA Moscow, Juan Iturbe, former Arsenal forward Gervinho and Maicon finding the net.

    Edinson Cavani has given Paris St-Germain the lead in Amsterdam against Ajax while Porto lead Bate Borisov thanks to Yacine Brahimi, who played for Algeria at the World Cup.

  99. GREAT SAVE!

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Joe Hart again! A save good enough to almost forgive him those shampoo adverts as he instinctively keeps out a deflected effort from Mario Gotze! The World Cup winner was only about eight yards out when he met a cross from the right and Hart kept it out superbly.

    Yaya Toure then leads the counter for City, and Edin Dzeko curls a shot just past the post. Good stuff on offer from both sides here.

  100. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Mark Lawrenson

    Football Analyst on BBC Radio 5 live

    "That was a great save. Bayern would expect to have scored from that, it was a superb ball in and either side of Joe Hart that would have been a goal. City are all over the place at the moment."

    Listen to full 90 minute commentary on BBC Radio 5 live.

  101. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Opta Joe: 16 - Chelsea have now scored in each of their last 16 Champions League home games. Usual.

  102. GREAT SAVE!

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Brilliant save! The best in the business at ghosting into space, Thomas Muller, does exactly that to meet Juan Bernat's cross from the left with a stinging header but Joe Hart s equal to it, pushing it away with one hand. Fantastic save from the England number one.

  103. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini watches from the stands at Bayern Munich

    From his lofty position high in the stands, City boss Manuel Pellegrini has seen his side get better with time as this opening 15 minutes has wore on.

    City have had 60% of the ball so far.

  104. Championship Latest

    There have already been three goals in the Championship and there's more bad news for Fulham, who are trailing 1-0 at Nottingham Forest. Felix Magath's side have just one point from their six games so far and sit bottom of the Championship table and are behind to Britt Assombalonga's sixth goal of the season. In the other game Derby are back on level terms at Blackburn after Jamie Ward cancelled out Ben Marshall's early opener.

    Nottingham Forest's Britt Assombalonga scores against Fulham
  105. Post update

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    Chelsea kicking into gear. Eden Hazard - described as a potential 'great of his generation' by Jose Mourinho this week - cuts in from the left in familiar fashion and hammers in a low shot which is turned away by Roman Neustadter. The hosts looking slick.

  106. GREAT SAVE!

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    The game has gone a bit flat at Bayern after that fast start - but hang on! David Silva plays in Edin Dzeko with a smart reverse pass, the angel is very tight but Dzeko shoots anyway, forcing Manuel Neuer into a smart save low down.

    At the other end, Robert Lewandowski sells one man with a dummy and looks set to charge into the box, but Bacary Sagna shuts him out with a fine challenge.

  107. Post update

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke

    Schalke captain Klaas-Jan Huntelaar was booked by referee Ivan Bebek as he protested against that goal. Cesc Fabregas was alert to close down Max Meyer, but he slid in and seemed to take out Meyer, man before ball. Still, play to the whistle, and a composed finish from Fabregas, who has started life at Chelsea brilliantly.

  108. GOAL

    Chelsea 1-0 Schalke - Cesc Fabregas (11 mins)

    Fabregas scores

    And there is the opener for Chelsea! A slack touch in midfield is pounced on by Cesc Fabregas, who finds Eden Hazard on his left. Hazard drives inside to open up the space and then plays it back to Fabregas, and he buries his first goal for Chelsea.

    He fouled Max Meyer in the build-up though - no doubt about it. Schalke aren't happy and they are unlucky to be behind.

    Cesc Fabregas scores
  109. CLOSE!

    Chelsea 0-0 Schalke

    Big chance for Chelsea! Strong stuff from Didier Drogba as he holds off two men and works it across the face of the area, Ramires steps inside to open up the angle but tops his shot, a total miskick and it barely reaches keeper Ralf Fahrmann.

  110. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Thomas Muller and Pep Guardiola both thought they should have had a penalty for that first-minute challenge from Bacary Sagna - not for me. Contact was very minimal. Xabi Alonso makes a lot more contact with a sliding challenge in midfield and is lucky not to be booked.

  111. Post update

    Chelsea 0-0 Schalke

    Schalke start well at Stamford Bridge, with Sidney Sam a busy presence down their right wing. No chances to mention yet.

  112. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Bacary Sagna just got a piece of Thomas Muller as he went in on goal there. A vital intervention. City lucky not to be behind already.

  113. CLOSE!

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    Formation fans take note - Bayern Munich are playing three at the back - and they should be ahead!

    Inside a minute, Mario Gotze and Robert Lewandowski link up to free Thomas Muller, he skips round Joe Hart but stabs into the side-netting with the goal gaping! What a start for Bayern...

    Thomas Muller misses
  114. Post update

    Bayern Munich 0-0 Man City

    And after a short delay we are rolling in Munchen. Fantastic noise in the Allianz.

  115. KICK-OFF

    Chelsea 0-0 Schalke

    Game on at the Bridge.

  116. Post update

    The referees are sticking with these rank grey shorts then! Got to go...

  117. Paying the penalty

    Bayern Munich v Man City (19:45 BST)

    Manchester City's efforts in Europe this season are set to be hampered somewhat, as they have been forced to name a smaller squad than usual.

    City were fined £49m, £32m of which is suspended, and can only name a 21-man Champions League squad after failing Uefa financial fair play rules.

    However, as City pointed out in May, they only fielded 21 players in the Champions League last season, were not planning to spend a net amount of more than £49m on players this summer and expected their wage bill to be lower next season anyway.

    So there.

    Manchester City line up against Bayern Munich
  118. Post update

    Bayern Munich v Man City (19:45 BST)

    David Silva and Xabi Alonso embrace in the Allianz Arena tunnel. What a player - what players for that matter. As good as Xabi Alonso is, there's no place for him wearing the number three shirt in midfield...

    Here we come...

  119. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Paul Moore: City setting up for a draw. Bayern will break City's weak defence at will. 4-0 Bayern I'm afraid.

    Sadozie: Very optimistic for decent result against German champions in the absence of world's best wingers! 2-1 City

    Eyobel Gomini: City to win 2-1, Aguero to come of the bench and score the winner!

  120. Post update

    Bayern Munich v Man City (19:45 BST)

    Fans of goals could well be in luck tonight - none of Manchester City's 20 Champions League games have ended goalless. They have only kept three clean sheets in these 20 games.

    Manchester City's games were also the most prolific in last season's Champions League group stages: they produced 28 goals (18 scored, 10 conceded).

    Attack! Attack! Attack Attack Attack!

  121. Nani state

    Elsewhere in Europe

    Nani

    Remember Nani? The forgotten man of Manchester United starts for Sporting Lisbon in their Group G game away to Maribor in Slovenia. His appearance in United's Champions League final triumph against Chelsea in Moscow in 2008 must seem a long, long time ago.

  122. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Mark Sinclair: If the Bundesliga ever produces anything like City winning the league in 2012 I'll eat my pyjamas

    Shane Long: I watch a lot of Bundesliga and Premier League. Very rare to get a dull game in Bundesliga. Premier League often has boring games

    Dave Hansford: England Premier League fast, furious & entertaining. Bundesliga cheaper to watch, better for fans & producing top national team

  123. Post update

    Bayern Munich v Man City (19:45 BST)

    City warm up

    Fifteen minutes to kick-off then, as Manchester City complete their warm-up at the Allianz Arena. City's strength in depth is certainly impressive these days - as Frank Lampard joins the likes of James Milner, Aleksandar Kolarov, Sergio Aguero and Eli Mangala on the bench.

    How far can they go this time?

  124. Post update

    If you are wondering if a mid-table English side are better than a mid-table German side you'll be pleased to know that the Europa League returns tomorrow...

  125. Text us on 81111

    Rob in Brighton, via text: The German league is definitely something to aspire to from a fans perspective, but I'm sorry they cannot boast the depth of quality that the English Premier League can. I'd fancy any mid-table English side over a mid-table German team.

    Dave in Oxford, via text: I lived in Germany for three years, near Kaiserslautern. My match ticket also allowed me to use the train to get to the game. Football in Germany is perfection.

  126. No Manuel for Man City

    Bayern Munich v Man City (19:45 BST)

    Manchester City will be without boss Manuel Pellegrini tonight as the Chilean sits out the second of his two-match touchline ban for criticising the referee after his side's Champions League match against Barcelona last season.

    Pellegrini said after the 2-0 home loss that Swedish official Jonas Eriksson was "not impartial to both teams".

    He was charged with misconduct and will be in the stands this evening. Assistant Ruben Cousillas will be the man on the front line.

    Manchester City manager Manuel Pellegrini scratches his head during training for the match against Bayern Munich
  127. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Opta Joe: 2 - Manchester City have conceded exactly two goals in each of their last five Champions League games.

  128. Gutierrez latest

    Former West Ham and Celtic striker John Hartson

    "This is sad news, and my thoughts and best wishes are with Jonas Gutierrez. The fact that he's had an operation and is undergoing chemotherapy sounds like it's been detected early. An early diagnosis is key.

    "I ignored my symptoms for years and the effects were devastating. I nearly died. Testicular cancer though is one of the most treatable forms of cancer - that's why it's so important to raise awareness and for men to check themselves."

  129. Gutierrez latest

    Away from the glitz and glamour of the Champions League, Newcastle midfielder Jonas Gutierrez has thanked fans for their support after revealing he is being treated for testicular cancer.

    The 31-year-old had an operation in his native Argentina to remove his left testicle after the discovery of a tumour, and is undergoing chemotherapy.

    "Thanks for all the messages. Always looking forward," he wrote on Twitter.

    Newcastle United midfielder Jonas Gutierrez
  130. Post update

    Bayern Munich v Man City (19:45 BST)

    Phil Neville

    BBC Radio 5 live

    "I keep looking at Manchester City and they have underachieved in the Champions League but I completely understand why. It takes time to get used to going from the Champions League and back into the Premier League on a Sunday and then changing the tactics for Europe.

    "The groups they keep getting are not helping either. The seeding system really works against them and they need to keep on winning the title so their seeding will improve and they will stop ending in the group of death."

  131. Text us on 81111

    We asked which is best the Premier League or Bundesliga, tweet us #bbcfootball or text us on 81111

    Charlie in Shrewsbury, via text: Premier League for competitiveness and attracting the top players, Bundesliga for development of top players, atmospheres, running football clubs properly

    Andy in Glasgow, via text: I went to Hanover vs Stuttgart a couple of seasons ago. The stadium, facilities and fans were first class. The match itself was one of the worst I've ever seen...

  132. Early season form

    Over in the Bundesliga it's been pretty much business as usual for champions Bayern Munich. A defeat to Dortmund in the curtain-raising SuperCup was soon forgotten and they are currently in second place on seven points from a possible nine.

    Their draw came against Chelsea's foes this evening, Schalke, who held Bayern to a 1-1 scoreline last month. That is very much the bright point for Schalke though - they've lost every other game this season. Could be a tough evening ahead for Jens Keller and his team.

  133. Post update

    Elsewhere in Europe

    George Donis

    Remember Georgios Donis?

    The former Blackburn, Sheffield United and Huddersfield midfielder surely faces the most difficult job of the night - getting his Apoel Nicosia team to stop Barcelona from scoring in the Nou Camp. The champions of Cyprus actually made the Champions League quarter-finals in 2011-12, but they face a huge task to get out of Group F, which also contains Ajax and Paris St-Germain.

    Ashley Cole starts on the bench as Roma entertain CSKA Moscow in Group E, while Athletic Bilbao host Shakhtar Donetsk, the Spanish club's first group game for 16 years. Other fixtures include Porto at home to Belarus champions Bate Borisov and Sporting Lisbon away to Maribor in Slovenia.

  134. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Bayern Munich v Man City (19:45 BST)

    Bayern Munich: "Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayern!"

  135. Post update

    Chelsea v Schalke (19:45 BST)

    Phil Neville

    BBC Radio 5 live

    "Chelsea have got the strongest squad in the Premier League and I watched a lot of German football last season and outside of Dortmund and Bayern Munich there isn't much quality in that league, so I think this is a pretty straightforward game for Chelsea."

  136. Post update

    Chelsea v Schalke (19:45 BST)

    Didier Drogba
  137. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Lloyd Evans: Bundesliga hands down; fan-run clubs = lower season ticket prices = better atmospheres at games.

    Layton Adkins: I prefer the @premierleague all day long because unlike the @bundesliga_de anything can happen!

    David Alexander: Bundesliga! Standing allowed, fan owned clubs, sensible ticket pricing.

    Keep your tweets coming #bbcfootball or text us on 81111 and tell us which is best the Premier League or Bundesliga.

  138. Early-season form

    Diego Costa

    It's been a case of so far, so excellent for Chelsea as Jose Mourinho's men have stormed to the top of the Premier League.

    Brazilian/Spanish goal machine Diego Costa has settled into the English game like the chicken and balti pie, while Cesc Fabregas has assumed the role of Jeff Lebowski's rug - he ties it all together.

    Four games, four wins, 15 goals scored so far.

    Manchester City have had a mixed start. Outplayed in the Community Shield, they won well against Newcastle and Liverpool in the Premier League before a shock home loss to Stoke and an exciting 2-2 draw at Arsenal at the weekend.

  139. Post update

    How about we get the Bundesliga to run the Premier League then?

  140. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    We've had a mixed response to tonight's debate: Which is best, the Premier League or the Bundeslig? Keep your tweets and texts coming.

    Jack: @premierleague Every day of the week! Every season it's so competitive, whereas in Germany you know Bayern will win

    Tom Cross: @premierleague because there is always unexpected results and it is such a battle for the top 4 and for Premier League survival

    Tom: Football wise the Premier League but crowds wise and ticket pricing Bundesliga all day.

  141. League One tonight

    There's just one other game in the Football League, as Fleetwood host Barnsley in League One. Graham Alexander's side have surprised many this season following their promotion to the third tier in May and a win tonight could take them up to third in the table. Barnsley boss Danny Wilson will be hoping for a huge improvement from his side after they went 5-0 at home to MK Dons on Saturday before netting three times in the last eight minutes.

  142. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    We're asking what is best the Premier League or Bundesliga? Keep your tweets coming #bbcfootball.

    Vaughan McKee: The Bundesliga is far superior to the Prem. We could take some lessons from German football in all aspects!

    Curtis: Premier League in terms of passion and atmosphere and Bundesliga in terms of ability

    Zaheer Mahmood: Bundesliga as it has a great youth system. Premier League may be more exciting but at what cost?

  143. Championship tonight

    There are two matches in the Championship tonight, with third placed Nottingham Forest, who are still unbeaten, hosting bottom side Fulham. A win for Stuart Pearce's side would put them a point clear at the top of the table, while the Cottagers are looking for their first league win since 12 April.

    In the other match 11th placed Blackburn host 13th placed Derby County.

    Nottingham Forest manager Stuart Pearce shout to his team from the sideline
  144. Coming Up

    BBC Radio 5 live

    BBC Radio 5 live are at the Allianz Arena tonight for full 90 minute commentary of Bayern Munich versus Manchester City as well as updates from Chelsea v FC Schalke.

    There is also live commentary from the Championship on 5 Live Sports Extra as Nottingham Forest face Fulham.

    Listen live online.

  145. Jose on for a treble?

    Chelsea v Schalke (19:45 BST)

    There'll be no slacking from Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho tonight.

    Jose is aiming to become the first manager to win the Champions League with three difference clubs, having triumphed with Porto in 2004 and then with Inter Milan in 2010.

    "What drives me is to try to win," he said. "I work for my club, for my players and for the club supporters. I don't work for myself.

    "If I win it once more, to win with three clubs is unique. But even if I don't do it, how many top managers in the world have only one or even not a single one? The greatest in our country [Sir Alex Ferguson], he won it twice.

    "If at the end of my career I've achieved that situation, then good, but it's far from being an obsession and it's not something that I think about a lot.

    "We have a championship of six matches and three opponents in Group G and we have to do everything to qualify."

  146. Text us on 81111

    Dan from Formby, via text: Start of the season, the girlfriend painted my big toe blue when I was asleep. Diego Costa banged in a goal & we won. She's painted it the same for every game since and we've won them all. Plot twist - she hasn't had the chance to do it today. Potential end of form? I sincerely hope not.

    One of the best pre-match rituals I've heard...

  147. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Opta Joe: 7 - Chelsea have kept seven clean sheets in their last 11 Champions League games while Schalke have scored 0 goals in 4 games against Chelsea.

  148. Women's World Cup

    Scotland in play-offs

    Scotland's hopes of automatic qualification for the 2015 World Cup are gone, they have just lost 2-0 in Sweden. But the Scots made sure of a play-off place thanks to a 9-0 hammering of the Faroe Islands at Fir Park on Saturday.

  149. Women's World Cup

    England hit 10

    Eniola Aluko scored a hat-trick as England swept aside Montenegro 10-0 to ensure they finished their 2015 Women's World Cup qualifying campaign unbeaten.

    Aluko scored twice in the first half for Mark Sampson's side, with Karen Carney and Lucy Bronze also scoring.

    Carney got her second after the restart, before England added further goals through Toni Duggan and Aluko.

    Montenegro's Irena Bjelica was sent off before Alex Greenwood, Jo Potter and Duggan wrapped up the win.

    The victory for England, who had already secured their place at next year's tournament in Canada, was their biggest in their qualifying campaign.

    Eniola Aluko of England celebrates
  150. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Opta Joe: Didier Drogba is Chelsea's top scoring player in Champions League football with 34 goals and tonight he is looking to score in the competition for the 12th season in a row.

  151. Team News

    Chelsea v Schalke (19:45 BST)

    Chelsea

    Didier Drogba starts in attack for Chelsea with Diego Costa, who has scored seven goals this season, on the bench.

    Drogba's last contribution for Chelsea in Europe was to score the decisive penalty in the Blues' win against Bayern Munich in the 2012 Champions League final. Thibaut Courtois retains his place in goal, with Petr Cech on the bench.

    Schalke, who have never scored against Chelsea in four previous meetings, arrived in London with injuries to several key players, but midfielder Julian Draxler and Klaas-Jan Huntelaar start for the German side.

    Chelsea starting XI: Courtois; Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry, Filipe Luis; Matic, Fabregas; Ramires, Willian, Hazard; Drogba.

    Schalke starting XI: Fahrmann, Hoger, Ayhan, Neustadter, Fuchs, Boateng, Aogo, Sam, Meyer, Draxler, Huntelaar.

  152. Team News

    Bayern Munich v Man City (19:45 BST)

    Edin Dzeko will lead the line for Manchester City in Munich as Sergio Aguero drops to the bench. Midfielders Yaya Toure and Samir Nasri are both recalled in place of Frank Lampard and James Milner, while Bacary Sagna comes in for the suspended Pablo Zabaleta.

    Bayern line-up without star forwards Franck Ribery and Arjen Robben, who both have knee injuries, although Robben is on the bench. Bayern have been plagued by injuries and their team shows two changes from the one that beat Stuttgart 2-0 at the weekend, with defenders Holger Badstuber and Dante replaced by Rafinha and new signing from Roma Medhi Benatia.

  153. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Koln fans

    Cheap tickets, Thomas Muller, high attendances, Arjen Robben, beers at your seat, Robert Lewandowski, excellent quality sausages, Marco Reus, superb public transport, Julian Draxler, good songs, Jurgen Klopp, Dortmund's Yellow Wall, Philipp Lahm, Oktoberfest, Pep Guardiola, massive profits, Klaas-Jan Huntelaar, homegrown players - what's not to like about the Bundesliga?

    Wereder Bremen fans

    Or is that a load of old football hipster tat? Is the Premier League in fact the best league in the world after all?

    I want to know what you think the English game can learn from our German friends, and vice versa. Been to a game in Germany? Loved it? Hated it? We want to hear your suggestions.

    Get in touch at #bbcfootball, pop on to the BBC Sport Facebook page or BBC Sport's Google+ area.

    You can also text us on 81111 in the UK only - don't forget to say who you are and where you are texting from.

  154. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Opta Joe: 1 - Bayern Munich have won only one of their last five Champions League games against English clubs at the Allianz Arena (D2 L2). Hopes.

  155. Team News

    Chelsea v Schalke (19:45 BST)

    Well Diego Costa won't manage anything - not from the start anyway. He's on the bench as old warhorse Didier Drogba is wheeled out.

    Chelsea XI: Courtois; Ivanovic, Cahill, Terry, Filipe Luis; Matic, Fabregas; Ramires, Willian, Hazard; Drogba

  156. Post update

    Chelsea v Schalke (19:45 BST)

    Demba Ba

    It's all very familiar in tonight's other Anglo-German clash too.

    Chelsea played Schalke in last season's group stage, beating them 3-0 home and away. Jose Mourinho found it so easy that three strikers he thought weren't up to the task - Fernando Torres, Samuel Eto'o and Demba Ba - whacked five past Die Knappen.

    What might Diego Costa manage?

  157. Flying without Wingers?

    Bayern Munich v Man City (19:45 BST)

    Ribery & Robben

    Think Bayern Munich and you possibly think of Franck Ribery and Arjen Robben, tearing up and down the flanks, cutting in and hammering in shots.

    Well, the good news for Manchester City is that both miss out tonight.

    Former France international Ribery, 31, returned from a long-term knee injury last Saturday, but Bayern boss Pep Guardiola said he would not feature yesterday.

    Robben is also nursing a knee injury and will miss the game. Bonus for the Brits...

  158. Post update

    Bayern Munich v Man City (19:45 BST)

    Tonight is the start of Manchester City's fourth season in the Champions League - and it's the third time they have been matched up with German giants Bayern.

    City lost 2-0 in Munich in 2011 - when Carlos Tevez refused (possibly, allegedly, definitely/maybe) to come off the bench - but took the three points home last season, James Milner sweeping in the winner late on.

    There's no 'good time' to play a team like Bayern - but there are a few positive signs for Manuel Pellegrini ahead of this evening's clash...

  159. Team News

    Bayern Munich v Man City (19:45 BST)

    Manchester City make four changes from the team which started at Arsenal at the weekend - Edin Dzeko is up front as Sergio Aguero drops to the bench.

    There is no Arjen Robben or Franck Ribery in the Bayern team.

    Bayern XI: Neuer, Alonso, Benatia, Lewandowski, Rafinha, Boateng, Bernat, Gotze, Lahm, Muller, Alaba

    Man City XI: Hart, Sagna, Demichelis, Kompany, Clichy, Fernandinho, Yaya Toure, Navas, Silva, Nasri, Dzeko

  160. Post update

    The Arsenal defence will be having nightmares of swarms of yellow-shirted attackers for a few more nights yet. Dortmund were incessant from the off last night, they wanted it more than Arsenal - or appeared to anyway.

    Jurgen Klopp called his side 'a pressing machine' as they tore into the Gunners, not allowing them a moment's peace. Can Bayern and Schalke repeat the trick this evening?

  161. Bundesliga 1-0 Premier League

    Per Mertesacker

    How was your sleep Per?

    Laurent Koscielny

    Relaxing trip home Laurent?

    Mikel Arteta

    Man on Mikel!

    Last night Borussia Dortmund tortured Arsenal at the Westfalenstadion with a display of tremendous pace, power, pressing and sheer persistence.

    Only Wojciech Szczesny and the woodwork kept a rampant Dortmund down to two goals as Arsenal were outmuscled, overrun and outplayed.

    More of the same tonight? Or will the Premier League show those Bundesliga boys how it's done?

    Manchester City take on Bayern Munich while Chelsea host Schalke. Let's have it...