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Saj Chowdhury and Mike Henson

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  1. Post update

    That is your lot for tonight though.

    With a third of the season gone, and just nine points between the relegation zone and the Champions League spots, we have a humdinging a Premier League campaign in prospect.

    Just as long as you ignore pesky Chelsea, seven points out in front, that is.

    See you all later.

  2. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Crystal Pace winger Yannick Bolasie: Good win today. The Premier League only gets harder - let's go CPFC.

  3. Week ahead

    Your week ahead in football looks a little something like this.

    Aston Villa v Southampton is your Premier League Monday night action.

    Manchester City are fighting for their Champions League lives at home to Bayern Munich on Tuesday.

    Liverpool are doing likewise against Ludogorets on Wednesday.

    Tottenham at home to Partizan Belgrade and Everton away to Wolfsburg is your Europa League Thursday, with Celtic playing Red Bull Salzburg at Parkhead.

  4. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Gary Lineker

    BBC Sport

    "A goal from Christian Eriksen that was as delightful as it was important. At least to the manager it was!"

  5. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    John Hutchinson: I have a feeling that in the next few weeks there's going to be a shake down in the Premier League. Some sort of natural order will emerge.

  6. Post update

    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Gaston Ramirez

    Gaston Ramirez was making his first start of the season for Hull.

    A red card 50 minutes in means he will have to wait a while for his second.

    It may be all a little academic, but I thought the Uruguayan looked bright before his early bath.

  7. Manager reaction

    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Steve Bruce

    Hull manager Steve Bruce on BBC: "For me the Premier League is the spectacle it is because of the honesty and ferociousness of it. It was petulant by Ramirez but it is not violent conduct. Vertonghen goes down as if he has been pole-axed.

    "Vertonghen's actions are there for everyone to see but does he have to go over like that? I would be really disappointed if I was going to do something like that. The linesman 10 yards away and there is a difference between a flick and violent conduct.

    "It spoils the game, we have lost the game on a decision.

    "We were more like ourselves, we were excellent in the first half,. The whole game changed the moment the guy got sent off."

  8. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle: What a win that was today fans were unreal today. Always nice to get on the scoresheet.

  9. What's next for Reds?

    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Liverpool's fixture list could go one of two ways for Brendan Rodgers.

    It could be an ideal run of games against weaker opposition for his side to recover confidence. Or, lose most of them and it could be a one-way street to full-blown crisis.

    They play Ludogorets away in the Champions League on Wednesday, Stoke at home on Saturday, Leicester away on 2 December and Sunderland at home on 6 December.

  10. Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live

    "It's just not happening for Liverpool; they are not scoring goals and letting too many in it's as simple as that, Teams were scared to death of Liverpool last season and it was all built on that attacking play. But they've had the heart of their side ripped out. They are bottom half of the league, but that's where they should be based on the way they've played. People no longer fear Liverpool, they have a lack of confidence and they are still a scalp. It's the worst of all the worlds for Brendan Rodgers."

  11. Post update

    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Brendan Rodgers

    Somewhere, crawling round the south circular right now, is a downcast Liverpool coach.

    On board is a downcast Liverpool coach.

    Brendan Rodgers has not been shy in pointing out his own and his side's shortcomings.

    This is the little list in the centre of the story on the BBC Sport website:

    • His players' passing is too tentative
    • There is not enough intensity and togetherness
    • Confidence is low and the team is conceding poor goals
    • They are not aggressive and not playing as a team.
  12. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Sam Robson: The quality may not be in the Premier League, but from fourth down the tightness of the league makes for a fascinating season.

  13. Manager reaction

    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Mauricio Pochettino

    Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino speaking to BBC Sport: "It was very important this victory because it is important to stay in our position. an important win for the supporters and the club. The second half at the beginning, we showed we were a better team, than the first half. Never easy to play against 10 players but in the end we deserved the victory.

    "Hull scored early and it was difficult to manage. They tried to pressure us but in the second half we showed a lot of personality and character and we need to keep that in the next few games."

  14. Player reaction

    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Jake Livermore

    Hull midfielder Jake Livermore: "We are disappointed. We have not had time to reflect on the incident but the game changed with the sending off. Credit to Tottenham they kept the ball very well. Ramirez has apologised but the time he played he was magnificent. The league "

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    Kevin in Hornchurch: How poor is the Premier League this season apart from Chelsea? Spurs are so poor, like most around them. All the money makes for good watch but the quality is lacking. You could end up with any three out of Top 10 for Champions League places.

  16. Post update

    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Harry Kane

    Tottenham goalscorer Harry Kane: "We were told to move ball quicker and make game of it. They were winning all the second balls. In the second half we changed it. The man sent off helped. I knew Christian Eriksen would hit the target [with the free-kick] and it came right for me."

  17. Post update

    606 phone-in

    BBC Radio 5 live

    Now then, don't think the weekend football offering has finished. No, no, no. Join Ian Wright and Kelly Cates to debate the weekend's big talking points on 606.

    You can text them at 85058,tweet @bbc606 or call them on 0500 909 693.

  18. Post update

    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    The games hinged on Gaston Ramirez's red card just after the break.

    Here are the action areas from an evenly fought first half:

    Action areas first half

    And here is the story of Spurs' second-half stranglehold:

    Action areas second half
  19. Text us on 81111

    Chris in Norwich: Is Spurs' only tactic this season to provoke the opposition down to 10 men?

    Maggie in Suffolk: Once again a sending off has saved spurs. I don't know how we have won this game, but we will take it. They make my nerves bad every time they play these days!

    Mac in Sheffield: If Daniel Levy had been told at the start of the season that he would be on equal points with Arsenal and Everton, then he would've been very happy. Strange places for all the supposed 'big' teams.

  20. Player reaction

    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Tottenham goalscorer Christian Eriksen: "In the first half we started slow then we were quicker. With the 10 men it helped us and gave us space. I'm going to sleep pretty well tonight [after scoring]. It's nice to see those teams expected to be in top four lose this weekend and us get the points. A few wins and we'll be up there again."

  21. Post update

    christian eriksen

    Christian Eriksen has just picked up the man of the match award.

    If a Tottenham player, rather than one of the hard-working Hull team, is going to get it, then he is the man.

    A very healthy pass completion rate (92.2%), five chances created and the winning goal. Not too much to argue about there.

  22. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Jon Dunn: Guide to beating Spurs - keep 11 players on the field.

    Jonty Leibowitz: Another late winner doesn't hide the malaise at Spurs. Still our worst side in a decade.

    David Nicholas: Can we play against 10 men every week? Another painful watch.

  23. Post update

    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Referee Craig Pawson and his linesmen are waiting in the middle of the pitch for Tottenham to finish applauding their fans and depart the scene.

    They might be best to take their time. The home fans and Steve Bruce will want a word about the red card that changed the game.

  24. Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the KC Stadium

    "This might kickstart Tottenham's season, but I'm not totally convinced by them. They were disjointed at times, but because the Premier League is so tight a couple of wins and you are right back in there. It's a big win for them, but it hinged on the sending off and I'm sure Steve Bruce will have something to say on that. If Hull had got that second goal in the first half it might have been different."


    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Hugo Lloris celebrates
  26. Post update

    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    The four minutes extra are up. The referee looks at his watch...

    Hull manager Steve Bruce
  27. Post update

    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Ahmed Elmohamady's header drops wide of the Tottenham goal with Hugo Lloris watching it all the way.

    Tottenham are dragging their feet over every stoppage.

  28. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Tyrone Lewis: As "poor" as Spurs have been this season, we'll be on the same points as Arsenal and Everton if we hang on to win.


    Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Andrew Robertson goes into the book for a rant at Craig Pawson as Hull desperately push on.

  30. Hull 1-2 Tottenham

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the KC Stadium

    "Whenever Christian Eriksen has picked the ball up he's looked like creating something. It's a brilliant goal from him, and time is running out for Hull now."

    Christian Eriksen celebrates
  31. GOAL

    Hull 1-2 Tottenham - Christian Eriksen

    The Hull defence finally cracks.

    Christian Eriksen is the man who picks the lock, drilling home from 20 yards after the hosts sit deeper and deeper.

    What a body blow for a Hull side who have sweated buckets.

    Christian Eriksen scores for Tottenham

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Half-hearted appeals from the visitors as Aaron Lennon lifts the ball into Curtis Davies. More chest than hand.

  33. Post update

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Erik Lamela looks like he has controlled the ball in the box. He has, but with his arm. A free-kick which Allan McGregor will take his time over.


    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    One to eat up the clock. Stephen Quinn is on to replace Robbie Brady and immediately trots across to mark Aaron Lennon.

  35. Post update

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Erik Lamela shows too much of the ball to Robbie Brady as he attempts to thread it through to Vlad Chiriches.

    When Chiriches does get time and space to look up, Allan McGregor gets out and up to claim the cross.

    Tottenham toiling, Hull surviving.

  36. Post update

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Tottenham scored twice in the second half to come back and claim a win away to Aston villa earlier this month after Christian Benteke had been sent off for the hosts.

    Repeat order? We have 10 minutes left to find out.

  37. Post update

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Roberto Soldado looks like he was carrying an injury as he made his way to the bench.

    Roberto Soldado is fouled
  38. Text us on 81111

    Paul in London: I feel for Mauricio Pochettino. Spurs must look terrific in training, but that's because our defenders are all so clueless that they make Roberto Soldado look like Pele. How do you work on something in training if your players are incapable of taking on basic concepts?

    Rich in Maidstone: looks like referees are going to bail Spurs out every time they are behind away from home this season.

    Dan in London: It's great that Kane scored. But if it stays like this it's a poor result for Spurs.

  39. Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the KC Stadium

    "There's only so many times you can say with Roberto Soldado is 'getting into the right areas'. You have to judge a striker on his goals record."


    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    A brief bit of confusion on the Spurs bench, but it is Roberto Soldado, rather than Erik Lamela, who will make way to allow Paulinho a run-out. A bit of a strange one with the game apparently there for the taking.

  41. Post update

    BBC Radio 5 live

    As we hunker down for a frantic last 10 minutes, a quick reminder that 606 will be on BBC Radio 5 live following the final whistle.

    Give them a shout.

  42. Post update

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Some rare respite from the busy Hull defence - and their attacking colleagues almost return from the other end with the lead restored.

    Ahmed Elmohamady's skidding cross is volleyed just over the top by Nikica Jelavic.

  43. Post update

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Tottenham's Erik Lamala shows and goes, skipping inside Liam Rosenoir and into the box, but his effort streaks over the bar. He should have done better, even on his weaker right.

  44. Post update

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Action areas

    This is where the game was played in the five minutes following Gaston Ramirez's red. It has been a game-changer.

  45. Post update

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    All Tottenham now. Harry Kane gets between Curtis Davies and Michael Dawson but directs his far-post header wide, before Ryan Mason brings a good save out of Allan McGregor from distance.

  46. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Paul Charles: Harry Kane. Always in the right place at the right time. That's 90% of being a striker.

    Liam Harris: Cue the Harry Kane for England euphoria...

    Thomas Rimer: Roberto Soldado is a poacher who couldn't poach an egg.

  47. Miss!

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Roberto Soldado's Tottenham career continues to perplex. The formerly prolific Spaniard duffs a horrible attempt wide after being picked out in the middle by Vlad Chiriches' cross.

    Tottenham's Roberto Soldado
  48. Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the KC Stadium

    "Hull could really do with someone up front who could hold the ball up for then. Nikica Jelavic has run around, chased and harried but they need a player with presence to take the pressure of the defence. Steve Bruce needs to do something - it's just wave after wave of attacks from Spurs now."

    Hull striker Nikica Jelavic

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Hull make a second change with Tom Huddlestone, walking the yellow card tightrope, off and Liam Rosenior on.


    Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Hull tempers are fraying. Tom Huddlestone goes into the book for a high foot, while Jake Livermore has been booked for a bit of post-goal back-chat.

  51. Hull 1-1 Tottenham

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the KC Stadium

    "Harry Kane can't stop scoring can he? He's not had the best of games today, but he's once again in the right place at the right time. The ball rebounded back off the post and there's nothing Hull goalkeeper Allan McGregor could do about that."

    Roberto Soldado and Harry Kane celebrate
  52. GOAL

    Hull 1-1 Tottenham - Harry Kane

    Christian Eriksen is the source of Totttenham's leveller.

    The Dane whips a fantastic shot over the wall and against the post from 25 yards out. Allan McGregor was beaten all ends up and the only touch he gets on the ball is to accidentally direct the rebound straight to Harry Kane.

    He slots in the rebound from five yards for parity.

    Harry Kane scores for Tottenham

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Mauricio Pochettino sees Steve Bruce change and takes it as the signal to sharpen his own side's attacking edge. Aaron Lennon on in place of Mousa Dembele.

  54. CLOSE!

    A teaser of a cross from Ben Davies proves frustratingly out of the range of Roberto Soldado's outstretched leg. It was a matter of a few inches though.

    Spurs' Roberto Soldado stretches for the ball

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Steve Bruce has decided that his 10 men cannot afford to include a luxury like Hatem Ben Arfa. The Frenchman is hooked with the less subtle skills of David Meyler thrown into the mix instead.

  56. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Hull could have been two or three to the good. Now it feels like a siege is brewing.

    Steve Bruce is exasperated with the decision to send off Gaston Ramirez. It could well be a turning point and Ramirez, while provoked, has to bear some of the blame.

  57. Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the KC Stadium

    "It was a David Beckham-esque kick out by Gaston Ramirez but nowhere as aggressive. It was quite a soft sending off really with minimal contact but by the letter of the law I guess the referee has to send him off. With the extra man Spurs should dominate and make the pitch wide."

    Gaston Ramirez chops down Jan Vertonghen
  58. RED CARD

    Hull's Gaston Ramirez

    The red mist descended for Gaston Ramirez and the red card climbs out of Craig Pawson's pocket.

    The Uruguayan was ruffled by the attentions of Mousa Dembele and Ben Davies and is tipped over the edge by Jan Vertonghen easing his knee into him as he lay on the floor.

    Ramirez reacts by kicking out at Vertonghen, the linesman spots the retaliation and that is curtains for the Hull midfielder.

    Hull's Gaston Ramirez is sent off
  59. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Michael Dawson crunches in to dispossess Harry Kane just as the Spurs striker cocks his left foot on the edge of the box. Nicely timed with little margin for error.

  60. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Sonawane Mahesh: Now Spurs fans want their manager fired, Daniel Levy will oblige, Spurs will keep doing what they've been doing for years, stay ordinary.

    Ian Marks: I've never seen a Spurs team so narrow, lifeless and one-dimensional. January needs to be a busy month.

    David Whale: Spurs playing like they were only introduced to each other in the dressing room.

  61. Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Alan Green

    BBC Radio 5 live at the KC Stadium

    "So Tottenham have replaced a player at right-back who wants to play centre-back, with a player who normally plays as a centre-back?"

  62. KICK-OFF

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    We are back up and running. Mauricio Pochettino does not look like the sort to smash the half-time crockery, but his side need to up everything in the second half.

    Tottenham boss Mauricio Pochettino

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Tottenham have made a change as well. Vlad Chiriches is on in place of Eric Dier. I'm not sure that is going to shore up the Spurs rearguard.

  64. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Mike Hunkin: This Spurs defence is so terrible I get nervous just looking at it. Think I'll get another beer to numb the pain.

    Jon Bagel: Same old, same old - no urgency, spirit or real desire from Spurs. We are one nil down and should be happy it is only the one goal against Hull.

    Oliver Lloyd: Mauricio Pochettino isn't the problem - Daniel Levy and his controlling instincts are and have been since Harry Redknapp left.

  65. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Meanwhile as Hull re-emerge to Eye of the Tiger, Spurs have work to do...

  66. Post update

    England women 0-3 Germany women

    England are comprehensively beaten by Germany at Wembley, but ex-England international Sue Smith, co-commentating on BBC Two, concluded: "Our players are training a few times a week now and fitness levels are improving so much. Players were still running with no cramps in the last minute. And we've created chances against European champions Germany."

  67. Manager reaction

    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Crystal Palace boss Neil Warnock

    Crystal Palace manager Neil Warnock on Match of the Day:

    "That's why we're in the game for moments like this. This was a Neil Warnock team performance - they gave everything and did not shirk. They could have scored more goals. Our fans at home, wow, its like electric.

    On conceding early: "We worked the last two weeks on the back four and wondered why we spent that much time. But after that Kels [Martin Kelly, who made a mistake for the goal] played really well.

    "One or two journos said one or two of my players were unhappy. If that team was unhappy then I don't know where to go. I thought the whole club was very good today."

  68. Post update

    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Meanwhile Neil Warnock has been in full Cheshire Cat mode...

  69. Manager reaction

    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    More from Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers:

    On Raheem Sterling: "He's played a lot of games. There is a lot of pressure on the young player. He's not an unknown and is a marked player. Raheem's confidence is not quite as high and the intensity not quite as high. He's an outstanding talent - he's going to have little spells like that."

    On Mario Balotelli: "Mario came back from the Italy squad and it was still sore [groin] - we will assess that over the next few days."

    On getting back to basics: "The confidence is low - we need to find a way. This has been a new phase - a lot of games, a lot less preparation time. We can't complain - we have to find a way to get results and show real size and power of the club. We need to get back to the basics."

    On his future at the club: "I'm not arrogant to think I'll be in a job through anything. You have to win games and results. I've got a great communication line with the owners - we are honest and open with each other. I know that we have to get results and perform. The owners have to see development on the field - our development has been very good and fast. I will only ever do my best - I need to fight even harder and take responsibility."

  70. Manager reaction

    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers

    Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers on Match of the Day:

    "We made a really good start to the game - Rickie Lambert got his first goal with a terrific finish. We made the perfect start but failed to manage the game at 1-0.

    "We are very, very disappointed with the performance and the result and as the manager it is something I need to take full responsibility for.

    "Our confidence is not high at the moment, we do not see speed in the passing and we have to work even harder. It is a difficult moment, a tough time because of the results and we have to make sure we retain one focus - that of getting better and improving and very, very quickly because games come thick and fast."

  71. Post update

    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Brendan Rodgers has had a lot of explaining to do.

    The Liverpool manager's side were a distant second at Selhurst Park, losing 3-1 to Palace to leave them a huge 18 points off the Premier League pace.

    Here is how the 2013-14 LMA manager of the year sees his current plight...

  72. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Jake Livermore
  73. Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the KC Stadium

    "I think the most disappointed of the two sides will be Hull in that they are not further ahead. They've certainly had their chances to be more than one goal up at half-time. Spurs have slowly but surely come into the game, and haven't actually played that badly at times. Should be an intriguing second half."

  74. Damned lies and statistics

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Hull v Tottenham

    Never mind the numbers, Hull deserve to be ahead. Perhaps by more than one.

  75. Text us on 81111

    Jon in Eastleigh: As a Spurs fan I feel like I've gone back in time to the late 1990s. This as poor as we've been in years - something needs to change.

    Toby in Broadstairs: Being a Spurs fan is just a cycle of optimism and disappointment.

    Steve in Cardiff: The problem with Spurs is that players are bought because individually, they're good. Take Soldado - he's a poacher. He should be in the box poaching a goal like Defoe. Not running around seeking. Play players to their strengths!


    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Hull v Tottenham
  77. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    That is criminal. Christian Eriksen stands up his man on the byeline and sends a peach of a cross fizzing through the six-yard box, right down the corridor of uncertainty.

    Hull's defenders watch it go and fortunately for them, neither Roberto Soldado or Harry Kane have the predatory instincts to apply the finish the ball begs for.

  78. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Hull are pressed back and have a corner to see out after Eric Dier's shot deflects off Robbie Brady and behind.

  79. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Christian Eriksen goes in to try and win a 50:50 ball from Gaston Ramirez in the centre circle. The Dane had every right to go for it, but it doesn't look good as he gets there a millisecond late and leaves Ramirez in a quivering heap.

    Craig Pawson resists the home fans' calls to pull out yellow.

  80. Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the KC Stadium

    "All of Tottenham's best play has come through Christian Eriksen. When he gets in central areas, rather than being forced out wide, Spurs look like creating something and pose much more of an attacking threat."

    Tottenham's Christian Eriksen takes on Hull's Hatem Ben Arfa
  81. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    If Tottenham are going to get a goal, it will have to come via a slip, deflection or misjudgement from Hull. They don't look capable of creating their own chances.

  82. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Both defences stretched close to breaking point. Hull's Ahmed Elmohamady gets back to head the ball into Allan McGregor's grateful gloves, before Nikica Jelavic's flick sets Robbie Brady loose and Eric Dier has to put on the after-burners to pull level and keep him from cutting in on goal at the other end.

  83. Text us on 81111

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Mark in Nottingham: Is there a squad anywhere in the land with more average yet overpriced players than Spurs? Mix n Match of ordinary.

    Tom in Worcester: Can someone please explain the thinking being signing Federico Fazio? Surely they would have seen him run before signing him. Cart horse.

    James in Belfast: Who will be sacked first, Brendan Rodgers or Mauricio Pochettino?

    Tottenham manager Mauricio Pochettino

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Eric Dier goes into the book as he chops down Robbie Brady with a scissoring slide challenge.

    Tottenham are irritated that a Tom Huddlestone tackle a few minutes before did not warrant the same punishment.

  85. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Very different result though. Harry Kane's shot thuds tamely into the wall.

  86. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Now then. Harry Kane is lining up a free-kick, central, 30 yards out and very similar territory to his winner against Aston Villa...

  87. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Tom Thrall: I honestly thought Spurs defence might improve without Younes Kaboul, but I forgot Spurs sold Michael Dawson. What a mess this is.

    Ashley Williams: Baldini bought players with Bale money. A committee used Suarez money. Both teams struggling. managers aren't making signings.

    Vinny Person: Dawson sold for Fazio? Sigurdsson sold for Lamela? Defoe sold for Soldado? And this is why we pay Baldini the millions.

  88. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Better from Spurs. Erik Lamela is alert to flick the ball onto Eric Dier and the full-back gets in a decent cross which Curtis Davies heads clear to the edge of the area.

    Christian Eriksen picks up possession, wriggles for space to shoot and sees his effort deflected wide.

  89. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    match stats

    Possession? Over-rated.

    Liverpool has more of the ball against Palace earlier today and Tottenham have certainly been second best so far at the KC.

  90. Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Former Scotland international Pat Nevin

    BBC Radio 5 live at the KC Stadium

    "Playing that high line Spurs look like they are going to get caught. They had two brilliant chances in a row for Hull. It's incredible that they are only 1-0 up. Will they live to regret not putting it to bed?"

    Hull manager Steve Bruce
  91. CLOSE!

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Tottenham should be 2-0 adrift as Hull miss two fine chances.

    First Robbie Brady demands a good save out of Hugo Lloris with a snap-shot from 15 yards. Lloris has to be smart again to keep out a thumper from Gaston Ramirez shortly after and looks on relieved as Hatem Ben Arfa clumps the rebound over the top.

  92. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    If you come that far as a goalkeeper, you have to claim the ball. Hugo Lloris, under pressure from Curtis Davies, drops a free-kick right at Gaston Ramirez' feet. Ben Davies bails out his team-mate with a block on the Uruguayan. It was a crucial one as well.

  93. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Robbie Brady is peeved with Craig Pawson's call as the referee rules that he fouled Erik Lamela as he clambered past the Argentine. Tottenham are struggling to get in the game at the moment.

  94. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Gareth Murray: This not celebrating scoring against your former club is getting rather irritating. You're Jake Livermore not Denis Law!

    Bright Eugene: Come on Jake, celebrate! That was a belter!

    Dax Fullbrook: Steve Bruce/Hull 1-0 up and he is barking orders from his technical area. Mauricio Pochettino/Spurs 1-0 down and he sits there with his legs crossed.

  95. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    Jake Livermore is one of three former Spurs with points to prove against their old club. Michael Dawson and Tom Huddlestone are the other Hull players who slapped high fives with their ex-team-mates before kick-off.

    Jake Livermore scores
  96. Post update

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham

    It has been a bright start from Hull for whom Gaston Ramirez has been pirouetting like a prima ballerina, keeping the ball and drawing a foul in the centre circle.

    Gaston Ramirez and Jan Vertonghen
  97. GOAL

    Hull 1-0 Tottenham - Jake Livermore

    Jake Livermore does not celebrate against his old club, but he must take some personal satisfaction from that strike.

    Tottenham clear the initial ball into the box through Federico Fazio, but fail to apply enough pressure on their former player. Livermore controls, gets his head up and drills a low shot into the bottom corner from 20-odd yards.

    That is the sort of drive and directness that Tottenham could do with in their own midfield.

    Jake Livermore scores for Hull
  98. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Ashley Williams: Sorry but nobody, including Steven Gerrard, can get on a pitch based on performances in previous seasons. He's not good enough now.

    AF Slater: Liverpool fans claiming Brendan Rodgers as their saviour last season, are now calling for him to be sacked? Bonkers.

    Thomas Renshaw: The team needs to step up. No one is creating space. Liverpool cannot beat teams that simply sit in front of them. Rethink.

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    Hull 0-0 Tottenham

    Roberto Soldado gets away the game's first shot in anger. It is a decent connection, but dead central and Allan McGregor drops on it with time to spare.

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    Hull 0-0 Tottenham

    Andrew Robertson, who was so impressive for Scotland against England on Tuesday, is already getting forward for Hull from left back.

    Ahmed Elmohamady might have just got away with one there though. The Egyptian appeared to allow a nothing ball to glance off his hand as he ushered it back towards Allan McGregor. Referee Chris Pawson failed to spot it though.

  101. KICK-OFF

    Hull 0-0 Tottenham

    Roberto Soldado and Christian Eriksen tap the ball between each other to get us up and running.

    KC Stadium
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    Hull v Tottenham (16:00 GMT)

    That is a lively playmaking three selected by Hull. Hatem Ben Arfa and Gaston Ramirez are joined by Robbie Brady, who is fresh from scoring twice for the Republic of Ireland against the United States.

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    Keith in Chester: It's been forgotten that Liverpool are only five points off fourth place despite all their troubles. Surely if they are in crisis then so are Arsenal Everton and Spurs?

    Rob in Birmingham: If Kenny Daglish was still in charge Liverpool's league position would be far better now and he would have had the nous to take the title last year from their winning position? He signed Suarez after all. Still a big mistake letting him go for me. How many other managers are there around who have won the league?

    James in London: I don't think anyone will deny Liverpool overachieved last season. This meant Rodgers created a rod for his own back. When he came in two seasons ago, we all said he needs time. The fact that we had a great, perhaps lucky season last year, does not change that fact.

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    Hull v Tottenham (16:00 GMT)

    Mauricio Pochettino

    While Liverpool scrape their sorry selves back onto the team bus at Selhurst Park, Mauricio Pochettino might be glad for someone else to take the tabloid heat.

    His side have already racked up four league defeats already at White Hart Lane, and with Emmanuel Adebayor having a bite back at the home fans, now might be a good time for a trip to Hull.

  105. Join the debate at #bbcfootball

    Gary Lansley: Quite incredible the amount of 'fans' giving Steven Gerrard grief. Show some respect that guy has done so much for your club.

    Aidan Williams: Just seen someone calling for Steven Gerrard to be sacked. Calm down children

    Jack Reed: Liverpool need to pack up shop and sell the trash. Martin Skrtel, Glen Johnson, Dejan Lovren, Simon Mignolet, Rickie Lambert, Mario Balotelli, Lucas etc

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    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    A shattered-looking Brendan Rodgers is just fronting up to the television camera. Very downbeat as you would expect.

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    Phil McNulty

    BBC Sport chief football writer

    "Worrying sign for Liverpool was how they offered little or nothing after Crystal Palace equalised. As if the goal shattered them mentally."

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    Gary Lineker

    BBC Sport

    "No SAS = SOS for Liverpool! But worth pointing out amidst Liverpool's crisis that that's a mightily good result for Palace."

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    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

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    Mark in Wirral: Millions wasted! Brendan Rodgers should be sacked along with Steven Gerrard and Glen Johnson. Disgraceful! Wake up Liverpool owners and act before its to late.

    David in Swindon: Time to move Gerrard into a similar role as Ryan Giggs at Manchester United. He'd be a great motivator and good support for Rodgers as a coach.

    Nick in London: Liverpool are not in meltdown. Things aren't going for them right now. they didn't deserve to lose at Palace, on an unplayable pitch.

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    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Jurgen Klopp

    What Brendan Rodgers doesn't need is a big-name charismatic manager making noises about moving to the Premier League.

    What is that Jurgen?

    "I think England is the only country I think where I should work, next to Germany because it's the only country I know the language a little bit and I need the language for my work," said Borussia Dortmund's Mr Klopp to BT Sport this week.

    "If somebody will call me, then we will talk about it."

    Brendan better hope that John W Henry doesn't subscribe.

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    Stu Thomas: All the problems with Brendan Rodgers seen by Swans fans. Odd selections, players out of position, no plan B. Time's up I think.

    Alistair Lowe: Sad reality is, I didn't expect anything today. Liverpool and Brendan are in a mess and the transfer committee a laughing stock.

    Paul Mulligan: Massive parallels between Liverpool and Spurs - two irreplaceable players sold in Gareth Bale and Luis Suarez. Rebuilding takes time

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    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Yannick Bolasie

    Crystal Palace and DR Congo winger Yannick Bolasie on Sky Sports: It has been one of the best weeks of my life. Qualifying for the Africa Cup of Nations, scoring two goals in that, and setting one up today. I did well against Liverpool last year and had a good feeling today."

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    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Hal in Edinburgh: Brendan Rodgers' tactical set up was perfect with someone as dynamic as Luis Suarez playing that open centre forward role. He's gone now, not been replaced and now we see how weak Liverpool are as a squad despite incredible funds recently. Brendan's transfer policy is too poor at this point to be safe in his job.

    Scott in Warrington: Liverpool need to sign a big player to bring the mojo back. Rodgers won't get the support of the board based on their current position. It's a vicious cycle. I can't see why any iconic players would want to sign for Liverpool, either. I bet Rickie Lambert is thinking if he made a mistake leaving Southampton.

    Matt: Liverpool bought the polar opposite of Suarez in Mario Balotelli and Lambert. They'd have been better off bringing Carlos Tevez in for a season.

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    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Premier League table

    Liverpool finished two points above Chelsea last season. They trail the Blues by 18 points after a third of this.

    They have now lost their last three league games and are closer to the relegation zone than the Champions League places.

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    BBC Radio London 94.9

    Former QPR striker Bradley Allen: "Neil Warnock will be proud of every single one of his players with the desire they showed. It's given them a huge amount of belief that they can stay in this division. There's no arguments, Palace were completely deserved winners. That they came from behind, when Liverpool were on top and in control, shows the character they have."

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    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Match stats

    Last season's 3-3 draw came as a bit of a smash-and-grab from Palace. This result feels more like just desserts for a side that showed greater attacking threat and held Liverpool at bay with ease after the second minute.

  118. FULL-TIME

    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Palace have their first win in six Premier League games. Liverpool have an inquest to carry out.

  119. Crystal Palace 2-1 Liverpool

    BBC Radio London 94.9

    Former QPR striker Bradley Allen: "What a performance by Crystal Palace and it will given them a massive injection of confidence with the games they have to come. Dwight Gayle has been an example to everyone with his workrate, he's given absolutely everything out there. He's the man of the match today by a good distance."

    Crystal Palace striker Dwight Gayle
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    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Liverpool are pumping the ball long to Rickie Lambert. Pass and move has gone out of the window.

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    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Crystal Palace still on the ball, stroking around midfield with Liverpool chasing shadows.

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    James: Ellesmere Port Rodgers needs time just like Ferguson got at Utd. Remember they finished 2nd in '88 only to finish outside the top ten the following season. Took Utd another four years to land the title.

    From Mo, Manchester: Can anyone else wait to hear Rodgers excuses this time? How can you be a good manager when it's quite clear Suarez was our reason for success without him we have a load of overpriced players who bring nothing extra to our team, clueless management is an understatement.

    MikeD: BR the 3rd LFC manager (inc GH/RB) to bring team to runners up spot and then blow the momentum in following transfer market. Can't be solely down to manager flaws - club has to look at itself in terms of overall organisation, scouts, commercial men, decision making. Back to square one yet again.

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    Mark Duffell: Liverpool have conceded six goals in two games against Palace. There is no defence for that. Appropriate. As Liverpool have no defence.

    Kuni Poonasamy: Why Brendan Rodgers refuses to play two upfront is beyond me. It's not like we bossing the midfield!

    Mark Voisey: No denying it anymore. Liverpool are just awful. Deserve to be where they are. Players aren't helping Rodgers at all.


    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Four minutes of injury time as Marouane Chamakh almost gets on the end of a cross. A fourth Palace goal looks likelier than any Liverpool fightback.

    Liverpool defender Martin Skrtel
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    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool

    Raheem Sterling gives away a free kick as he hacks away at the back of James McArthur. Palace are seeing this out in relative comfort.

  126. Team news

    Hull v Tottenham

    Hull City boss Steve Bruce makes six changes from the side who lost to Burnley last time out. Allan McGregor, Andrew Robertson, Michael Dawson, Gaston Ramirez, Hatem Ben Arfa and Nikica Jelavic are all given starts.

    Tottenham are without the suspended Kyle Naughton, so Eric Dier deputises at right-back, while Erik Lamela replaces Andros Townsend, who withdrew from England duty with an ankle injury.

    Hull XI: McGregor, Elmohamady, Robertson, Dawson, Davies, Huddlestone, Livermore, Ramírez, Brady, Ben Arfa, Jelavic. Subs. Harper, Rosenior, Chester, Meyler, Hernandez, Sagbo, Quinn

    Tottenham XI: Lloris, Dier, Fazio, Vertonghen, Davies; Dembele, Mason, Eriksen, Lamela; Kane, Soldado. Subs. Vorm, Ball, Chiriches, Ceballos, Lennon, Paulinho, Stambouli.

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    Scott, Warrington: Mignolet somehow puts it out for a thrown from a freekick. Goal. Skrtel stupidly gives a freekick having gone behind. Goal. Liverpool only have themselves to blame. It's pitiful.

    Jerry, Essex: I've been happy to stand by Rodgers but things are getting ridiculous now. Solid cb in Toure left on the bench, good lb left on bench so we played a rb there. Gerrard's past it. Borini and Can should have started.

    Bill in Hereford: Biggest worry for Liverpool now, is how long will Sterling stick around? If he was to go, with all that money wasted from Suarez we would be mid table at best.

    James, Watford: Not good enough for Reading. Not good enough for Liverpool. Bye Bye Rogers.

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    England women 0-2 Germany women

    It's not looking good for England, Germany striker Celia Sasic takes advantage of some miscommunication in midfield and slots home after a run from halfway. England players immediately have an on-pitch inquest.

    Watch and follow that game on our dedicated page.

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    Crystal Palace 3-1 Liverpool