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The argument of no relegation in the Rabo is a load of bulls manure, only the top 3 of the 4 Welsh teams qualify for H cup, the bottom one even if they ended up 4th in Rabo would go into Amlin.This is more about a bigger slice of the pie to pay the outlandish wages some so called rugby stars in PL are getting.
Shocking behaviour from England & France. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this competition. Don't remember the English sides complaining when Leicester and Wasps were dominating. Likewise France with Toulouse...
Interestingly, in terms of world rugby it is England and France who are out of step by continuing to organise rugby around privately owned clubs. NZ, Aus and SA have all gone down the road of union run provinces. That being the case its unlikely that the IRB will look on this as a welcome development.
Sack the RFU. They have their heads stuck further up the backside of Europe than our MPs. And thats saying something.
These English and French businessmen are using an utterly disingenuous lie to attempt to change the rules of the Hcup, solely so they can stack the deck before the cards are dealt. This line about relegation is a joke and no-one is buying it. What these arrogant, conceited and condescending money-men are doing to the game is absolutely disgusting and there needs to be consequences for them.
There is a lot of legal confusion.It is unclear whether ERC have right to negotiate HC rights for all for next 4 years but...PR have withdrawn from HC from 2014 so obviously ERC cannot be negotiating HC rights for PR clubsNot clear if RFU or PR have right to negotiate ANY european matches. Looks like PR but without docs we cannot be sure.We need facts not posturing
What a shameful mess created by all parties involved. Staggeringly amateurish way to run a professional business.
Also Bob, this is a dangerous precedent the PL is setting.In, let's say 5yrs, Leicester are getting 16K home attendance and €30M revenue to spend. If they decide to negotiate their home games on their own, what happens then to the weaker and less well off teams in the PL?I'd imagine at least half the PL teams would tell them to go, and refuse to play them. No games = no TV games/money.
BobThe sponsors provide the money, not the clubs.Yes, that is due to the population size of Eng/Fea.But that doesn't matter if the other teams don't play them, and not just in club competition. Eng/Fra will go backwards without the other 4nations.If equality is want they want, then introduce a salary cap of 5M per team, and they will get want they want. Equality for all???
@41 Bob 0ver 10k at Ravenhill tonight, I don't think that is a small attendance. Granted you don't get the same turnout at an Treviso V Ulster match, but flights are more expensive from Ireland to Italy than a train from Northhampton to London. I.e low attendances are down to geographic factors. Out of interest do you watch the Pro 12?
Veejay the Welsh struggle to sell the game in their caprial as do the Scots. Why london clubs apart from Quins aren't in London is down to poor club management as there's appetite for rugby in London as the double headers show.The rest of the clubs play in the traditional rugby hotbeds of England. Rugby is not the English national sport like it is in Wales where there should be more top clubs.
Munster bob you may want to read the other posts to understand why we are discussing attendance figues.Of course money is a big factor in this with the French and English providing most of the funding for the Hcup yet gettng a slice of the revenue which is not representative of their contribution.However they also want to face teams that have been playing in an equally competitive league.
44.Bob Then I apologise but we keep hearing about the great London sides like Saracens & Wasps (Actually called London Wasp but play in High Wycombe?, typical English lies there don't you think) I find it strange that most PR clubs are in such small towns & there isn't any presence in the larger cities. Can't sell the game or do the larger cities see through the small town mentality?
I think you may have added a few extra zeros, the last time I checked, Watford had a population of 80,000. I would agree with you that the attendance is below the capacity of the ground but that is down to mismanagement by Saracens in choosig to play in Watford in the first place where less people support them.
BobAttendance figures have no baring on the issue.You're believing lies spun by the powers in PL/T14.This has little to do with how the Rabo is run, and more to do with money/power.Any advantage the Rabo teams may have is nothing compared to the budget and player population advantage the Eng/Fra teams have.Toulouse or Leicester have a greater budget than the 4 Irish provinces combined.
41.Bob Clearly not as Saracens must've fielded a weakened side that day because the attendance was so low. Are English rugby fans so fickle as to not suport their team if a few top players are not present. So you travel all the way to Welford Road and find Flood, Tuilagi and Youngs are not playing, turn around and go home? Unbelievable!!
I have not said that because the average attendance is low in the celtic league that teams don't deserve to qualify for Europe. I said that low attendances were an indication of the fact that the celtic sides field weakened teams in their league and this detracts from the interest in the league. Thus the premiership are right to field strong lineups each weekend and make the league exciting.
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