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I agree - Peter Ebdon is painfully slow, I can't watch I just switch off! If I paid for tickets I would want my money back, there is no need to takethat sort of time on any shot, it's just not professional. The ref should stepin and tell him he is taking too long. God help the poor players who have to hang on in there and play with him. I'm sure I'm not the only one who switches off!!!
If a player is averaging over somewhere over about 35 seconds a shot after a few frames, then the referee should use his discretion to decide whether the player's shots have merited that time, and if not, give the player a warning that he must speed up. The over 35 secs rule needs to be there, because otherwise referees will discriminate against traditionally slow players like Ebdon.
Don't agree with a shot-time rule or a shot clock, but perhaps a few of the other comments could be on the right track by suggesting that the referees should be more assertive in matches that come into this category. Ref doesn't need a rule to back him/her up - just a pleasant word with the player(s) would perhaps be taken note of.
I absolutely agree with Graeme Dott's thoughts about Peter Ebdon. Yes, we all love a game with tactics, and years ago Peter Ebdon was able to bring that to the table (albeit annoyingly slowly). But in this match, faced with two or three possibilities on each visit to the table he couldn't make the difficult pot, or make a good safety shot. Why so pre-shot-static. Bad snooker viewing.
Nothing to do with this thread but I will keep posting this: -Is anyone else sick to death of Dennis Taylor harping on about how tight these TV tables are compared to club tables. It really does confirm that Mr Taylor is indeed a lightweight commentator and only there to appease the 'granny viewers' who know nothing about snooker.Come to the clubs I play at! These TV tables are easy
I was surprised to see this coming from Dott too. I wouldn't like to see a rule that limits every shot as an extended wait for a difficult shot can add to the tension and is all part of the game. I agree with @AnalMcAnal; referees need to be more authoritative if they think a player is taking the mick.
What about a rule change for gurning after you miss a shot? Every time Dott missed a shot (quite a lot) we were treated to the most amazing facial expressions of disbelief followed by a lengthy stare at the offending pocket.
I agree with Dott that the referees need to take control and be more authorative. I'd fully back a referee or tournament director saying something along the lines of:"I'm sorry Peter but in my opinion there is no need for the excessive amount of time you're taking over some of your shots. Speed things up a little or there'll be consequences..."
Dott is a pretty slow player. So i'm surprized by these comments. I have empathy with him though as Peter Ebdon is in a league of his own when it comes to picking up the pace. Snooker really could do with some time restrictions in play to enhance the competiveness of the game.So fair points from Dott!
Yes the tour is rammed. All you do is make some of the current tournaments into fast clock ones, then you deploy a proper ranking system like tennis. It is not brain surgery.
@75Okay, so if we did split it into 2 formats, how many tournaments would you have per year? The schedule is already rammed at the moment, and marquee events such as the Worlds would be exempt from the 'short' format anyway because of tradition. It's just not workable in my opinion without destroying the sport (as is steadily happening with cricket).
@73... typical "do nothing" response from you. There should be 2 formats so that both sets of fans and players are happy, Not just you.
This is a serious problem that could ruin the game as the nursery cannon killed billiards If a 10 frame session lasts 210 mins we should introduce a chess type clock. A player presses as he leaves his seat and presses it at end of break. If the 10 frames are not completed and one of the players has used more than 60% of the time that player is docked a frame . If he does it again, loss of match
@70 Why should there be two formats? t20 (coupled with 50-over cricket) has ruined test cricket because a) players display an inability to stay in any more than a couple of sessions as they're not used to it, and;b) all the money has been sucked out in favour of the shorter formats. Exactly the same would happen in snooker, we'd see a lack of tactical ability and even less money to go around.
Not every rule can be written down but etiquette requires such things as not cheating and not doing things calculated to put off your opponent is central to the game and must be observed. PEs modus operandii is to slow down the game and is calculated to put off his opponent which must be regarded as a form of cheating and should be outlawed.
Can't Barry just kick him out of the professional game? Can't imagine the appearance of Ebdon is selling tickets at any tournament.
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