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@ 138 : Correction to prior post:What are your credentials to judge if posted stats are selective or out of context ?
@138 I agree that "using (stats) selectively and out of context to support (one's) own ideas is bad". I used relevant stats in response to specific statements by another poster. Who are your credentials to judge if posted stats are selective or out of context ?
@136: I did not get angry. You are getting angry for having been proven wrong not just once, but twice.:)Guga with 3 RGs is heads and shoulders above Fed, especially since, you yourself admitted, he had (due to injury) a much shorter career than Fed. Muster has as many Masters as Fed, but his Masters-winning success is almost twice that of Fed (i.e., 24 % vs. 14 %). Fed is below average on clay.
Saw the 3rd set, must admit Fed looked rather iffy, falling over (inelegant and not at all like him..) and quite a few fairly feeble errors by his standard.....hmmm ..??
Start to worry USA for Davis Cup against Croatia..
@132. I think you mean stats and not facts. Getting statistics wrong is poor I grant you but using them selectively and out of context to support your own ideas is just as bad. It is a good idea to read others posts with an open mind and accept that they might have a valid point that might challenge our own.
@136The topic of this HYS is the Halle GRASS COURT tournament not Federer's form on clay not your "I said/you said" history with another poster.Try to be and adult and stick to the subject.
@131 - You stated that Federer was 'garbage on clay', I pointed out that he has more clay Masters than Guga, and the same as Muster. Federer also beat Guga at a Masters on clay with one set a bagel, the other to 2. I did not "lose the argument". Federer has more clay Masters than Guga. You call him coward for skipping clay, I asked if you felt the same about Muster skipping grass. You got angrier.
In July 2003, a young tennis player, not yet 22 years old, won his first Grand Slam at Wimbledon, dropping one set in his seven matches. He had suffered a crushing defeat in the first round of the French Open, but had a reasonable career after his Wimbledon success. Could Borna Coric follow in the illustrious footsteps of that young man? Tennis is ready for a worthy heir, so let us wish him well!
@130 armchair59If only all armchair experts had as much sense as you - may I tip my hat here - we'd never get to chuckle at all the "hah I win the argument you lose because muh cherry-picked stats says I win!" posts on HYS threads. It'll be a better world, but less to point fingers and laugh at!
@130 Yeah, for goodness sake, facts! What did they ever prove???
@130 If you are going to post something, you better make sure you get your facts right. Otherwise you'll be called on it.
@ 129. The subject of this thread is Fed being beaten by Coric. You defended Fed's clay record with garbage arguments like Guga's clay Masters record. Guga with three 3 RGs and a straight-sets beating of Fed at the 2004 RG is vastly superior to Fed. Losing the Guga argument, you turned to Muster and lost that one too. :)
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